Your 2011 squad preview

[Granto87]

I will go first, i have rated players with a rating of 1-5
1.Superstar
2.Above average nrl player
3.Average
4.Nothing better then a State cup player
5.Poor player, well past it

1.Wade Mckinnon 3* Has been hampered by injury for a couple of years now, still solid and safe with great support play hopefully can pick up a yard or two of pace
2.Tuqiri 1* Full offseason under his belt, best yet to come
3.Ayshford 3* Ayshford has potential to become a 2* needs to work on consistency and setup his winger more big future ahead
4.Lawrence 2* Great young center imo future club captain speed to burn and bruising deffence as well as a great pass, needs to work on positioning in deffence.
5.Ryan 3-4* Hopefully can regain some form, usually safe under the high ball but lacks pace and size, very comitted and enthusiastic.

6.Marshall 1* Super star imo best player in the world, scary thing is his best is still to come
7.Lui 3* Huge potential in Rob in a few seasons time could be a number 2* needs to work on deffence and kicking game.

8.Gibbs 3* Solid player gives his all, super fit and great deffence
9.Farah 1* Ready for origin is as important to us as Benji is, some times needs to be a bit more patient great kicking game.
10.Galloway 3* Injuries have hampered sauce last season if can get through this season without injury will be a 2*
11.Ellis 1*Superstar great deffence and runs great lines best 2nd rower in the world.
12.Heighnington 2* Great club player gives his all unfortunately cant crack rep teams although deserves it.
13.FUlton 3* lacks in size makes up for in heart, great deffence and adds second phase play with his great passing.
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14.Fifita 3* Plenty of potential needs to train harder and work on deffence, gives away silly penalties at times but also makes big meters
15.Payten 3* Getting on in age now but still important to our team great passing game and deffensive reads
16.Moltzen 3* Great at 7.6.3.4.1 and could easily play 9 great utility value oozes class and potential
17.Dwyer 3* Grat deffence hands let him down at time developing nicely

18.Brown3* To good to be playing reggies could push Ryan or Mckinnnon out big strong and fast.
19.Daniela3\. Same as Brown
20.Cayless 5* Seems past it and lacks size and speed, happy fo him to prove me wrong
21\. 4* BMM Still raw but one to watch will be a future star
22.Moors 4* Plenty of potential on his day could be a 3*
23.Falannagan 4* Trys hard lacks size good utility value
24*Hyalnd4* Imo will only ever be a state cup player
25\. Woods if can get on the park will be th e one to watch superstar in the making

Overall the future looks bright so much talent class and potential

 

[william_rodgers]

Quite interesting the way you have rated them, the only ones i dont agree with are gibbs who had a very goodyear last year & i would rate him as a 2\. galloway i would also rate as a 2, & bmm i think will be a superstar of the future as will fifita.

 

[Demps]

Great thread, had to sign up & contribute.
My opinion,

**McKinnon**
3 / Average player, don't think he has much life left in the game either, hopefully he will have a decent & injury-free season. His support play suits our style but I think he should have received a lesser contract.

**Tuqiri**
1 / Super star on & off the field, household name & recognizable, great draw for the club. Had a stellar season in 2010 & I think he'll do brilliantly again this year.

**Ayshford**
2 / Along with Chris, one of the better centers in the game currently, so much potential and constantly improving, a consistent player who I believe has a future in the back row.

**Lawrence**
2 / As said, one of the better centers in the game. I believe he'll be a permanent fixture in the NSW & Aus jerseys in the future. Great speed & defense, plays his best consistently.

**Ryan**
3 / Great personality, average player. Tries his best, will struggle to keep his position unless his form improves. I see him as a future utility player.

**Benji**
1 / On & off field super star, BENJI MARSHALL is the franchise. Worth his weight in gold, great brand for the club, HUGE draw & is the best player in the world.

**Lui**
2 / So much potential, will only improve with age & experience, hoping he has another standout year for 2011 and lifts like he did in the '10 finals. ( Gave him a 2 because he's no where near a 1 and not quite a 3, with the right development he could be nurtured into a Thurston or Prince type halfback )

**Gibbs**
2.5 / Not quite a 2, not quite a 3 ~ consistent workhorse who lifts when we need it & tries his best, great club-man & wouldn't want to see him anywhere else.

**Farah**
1 / Consistent player, one of the best hookers there has ever been. Along with Lawrence, definite future fixture for Australia & NSW if the selectors make the right decisions. When he came on in the Aus game, he provided so much spark & was the best player on the field at the time. Great combination with Benji & hoping for a massive 2011 for Robbie.

**Galloway**
3 / Average player that gets the job done.

**Ellis**
1 / Runs great lines & is great for the club to have.

**Heinington**
2 / Our enforcer, pure workhorse who tries his hardest, unfortunate to continually be overlooked for a rep jersey, I believe if he got the chance he'd work his heart out for the team & be like Thaiday is for QLD.

**Fulton**
3 / Had a decent 2010 and I think this season he'll be even better.

**Fifita**
3 / So much potential, future first string choice in my opinion.

**Dwyer**
3 / Dude has a massive head and is huge, such a raw talent that will only improve & I'm stoked we have signed him up for a few more seasons, future first string choice also.

**Payten**
3 / Payten has been great for us but as said, getting a bit past it. I think he may hang up the gloves after this season, so hopefully we can send him out with a bang.

**Moltzen**
2 / Future super star for sure, not sure where he fits into the team just yet but he is a great player.

**Brown**
3 / Stepped up and did well for us at the back end of 2010, I rate him a little higher than McKinnon and see him improving his support plays and replacing McK as first string option.

**Daniela**
2 / I think the kid has so much potential and raw talent, always been a fan since the first time I saw him play. Small in size but ticks all the right boxes, if injuries occur he'll always step up & try his hardest. Glimpses of brilliance when he was on field in 2010

**Cayless**
5 / this guy is a massive ZERO, waste of money, is way paste it & offers nothing. I would've terminated the contract long ago (wouldn't of even signed him in the first place) USELESS!

**Moors**
4 / Not sure about this guy, need to see more of him.

**Murdoch Masila**
3 / BMM along with Dwyer & Fifita are a future deadly force in my opnion. Massive young lads with so much potential who will develop into even bigger beasts. Can't wait to see what the future holds for these 3

**Flannagan**
3 / Adds depth & utility value to the team but more than likely won't be seen in the team this year unless injuries arise.

**Hyland**
4 / In my opinion, not quite first grade material yet

**Woods**
3 / Agree that he'll be the one to watch in the coming years if he can get a crack

 

[Kul]

Welcome aboard Demps!

Good review. Can't say i agree with Lui or Daniella though

 

[alexaki]

Nice post…agree with much of it. although a bit harsh on Galloway...I'd rate him a 2 easy.

 

[deejaii]

McKinnon
can't take too much notice of last season as he was a week by week prospect. but with a full off season under his belt he could be a real weapon in 2011\. brown is still learning the trade and sheens will be reluctant to trial mullaney early in the season. worth a punt if he gets anywhere near his best.

Tuqiri
should b a permanent fixture for as long as he wants to play for WT

Ayshford
cant decide if hes a good player who had an average start to the season or an average player who had a great end to the season. cant take all the blame for not using his winger as often times beau was in no mans land. hes shown what he can do, so now he needs to replicate his form. will benefit from more experience and a stable backline.

Lawrence
permanent fixture. hoping hes just holding out on contract negotiaitions until he makes the blues team

Ryan
beau is a good enough first grade player for the most part but WT should be a force in the finals for years to come and when facing off against morris, gordon x2, vatuvei, nightingale et al in a big match then beau will become a liability. WT need to find a better option in order to move forward.

Benji
benji marshall

Lui
great ball playing at the line for such a young player but still a passenger in defence. however they said the same thing about thurston. i feel moltzen has the edge at this point in time, but with miller now in the picture and plenty of young halves in junior reps for wests and balmain, the 7 is well and truly up for grabs

Gibbs
needs to work on footwork at the line and getting over the advantage line more consistently, but finally living up to his potential. his efforts against easts and canberra in the finals were simply herculean. wont ever get picked for nsw under the current administration but id take him over gallen.

Farah
2010 wasnt robbies best season, and he still came second in dally m voting.

Galloway
if not for a horror injury run, would have been a nsw rep a long time ago. along with gibbs dominated the much vaunted canberra pack in the finals. should be the foundation of the WT pack for years to come

Ellis
best 2nd row in the world, hardest player in the nrl

Heighington
stepped up his attack in 2010 and was not so much limited to the tram lines down the middle of the ruck. good to see he is still developing his game and could easily be a nsw rep. like gibbs probably not appreciated by the wider nrl community but the fact that bennet tried to poach him says something

Fulton
in previous years i think thgere was some validity in the line that fults was too small for the WT pack, but with dwyer, ellis, fifita, bmm bringing some real physicality to the side i think fults fills a gap. for the last 6 years or so, WT have needed a ball playing forward to straighten the line of attack when they play too laterally and to allow benji to stand wider and deeper in a backline movement. atm payten plays this role, but when payten leaves i think fulton will be necessary to WT attacking structure

Fifita
provides the impact WT have lacked since… forever. as long as he stays out of trouble im sure that folkes and sheens will get the best out of him

Dwyer
hands let him down at times but i think thats a concentration and youth thing rather than skill. with more time training with benji and lui, could be lethal in attack. always loves to be involved when on the park, whether in attack or defence

Payten
for mine hes in the team for as long as he wants to stay. okay so he doesnt trample blokes but that was never todds go. we still need his defence around the ruck, makes tough metres, ball playing, not to mention his leadership skills. we dont have anyone who can replace todd

Moltzen
ball playing not as good as lui, but better ball runner and infinitely better defender when at half back. will have to re evaluate when we see how he returns

Brown
top player. his support play at fullback was actually very good in 2010 and was unlucky not to score a few more tries. needs the synchronisation that will only come with time training with the team at fullback. Seems to be just big enough or just quick enough to trouble whoever hes up against. came out of nowhere to ankle tap kevin gordon late in 2010\. id have him ahead of beau

Daniela
good one on one defender, good hands, classy finisher, but will not be more than coverage for injuries in 2011, actually id probably have him ahead of beau

Cayless
cant be any worse than last year

Moors
was close to our best forward whenevr he played in first grade despite being out of position. i suppose sheens had to choose between moors and fifita but im still holding out hope junior can make a comeback

Murdoch Masila
obviously a supremely talented player but the fact that in his first year out of high school, he debuted in the finals series and didnt let anyone down shows that he will be a special player

Flannagan
struck up a good combinaton with benji at times but theres just too many players ahead of him to be a permanent first grader.

Hyland
may get a game or two this season but in the long term theres just too many quality young back rowers in WT junior ranks for matt to have a good crack

Woods
doubt he will get a go early in the season if at all but i get the feeling that once hes in the team he will be too good to be dropped.

Mullaney
will suffer because of the weakness in the state cup. needs a year or two to develop physically into a first grader but i dont know how much help nsw cup is going to be in this regard. reminds me of lachlan coote, at some point hes gonna have to debut and he will be bashed around a bit but youve just gotta put up with it because he will defenitely be a great player for many years to come. in light of this id like to see him debut sooner rather than later. also his goal kicking will help

J. Schirnack
dont forget about jason. gritty, strong ball carrier and great footwork, another physical, unyielding young WT forward. if not for injuries would have played many more games in first grade in 2010 and im hoping to see him go some way to cementing a spot.

finally i think the strongest aspect of the WT squad is the stability they have brought over from last season. while many have said its a weakness not to import any players into the top 17 for 2011, if playing canberra again in the finals with benji and lui who have played together for the best part of two years now, up against orford and campese who will only start training together part way through 2011, WT will definitely have an edge.