Your Team v Donkeys

@sleeve said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410097) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410088) said:
@thedaboss said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409900) said:
@tore85 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409876) said:
1 LAURIE
2 MAUMALO
3 ROBERTS
4 HOFFMAN/TALAU/PUAGA
5 CINI
6 DOUEIHI
7 BROOKS
8 AMONE
9 LIDDLE
10 UTOIKAMANU
11 BLORE
12 CHEE-KAM
13 TWAL
INTERCHANGE
14 TAMOU
15 LEILUA, L
16 OFAHENGAUE
17 SEYFARTH

Twal moves into Front Row mid way through first half.

What the....

I can remember you picking sides like that .....lol

OOOOH BY GOD. I'M watching different games.

What lol ......
 
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

Douihei is the man.
He needs to get back to the 6.
Give him another chance man.

Moey ain't it.
 
@demps said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410106) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

Douihei is the man.
He needs to get back to the 6.
Give him another chance man.

Moey ain't it.


I dont disagree with any of that...Doueihi, with Brooks and Laurie are the basis of our backline going forwards. Lots of gaps to fill
 
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.


Nice insight thanks!
 
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410128) said:
@demps said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410106) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

Douihei is the man.
He needs to get back to the 6.
Give him another chance man.

Moey ain't it.


I dont disagree with any of that...Doueihi, with Brooks and Laurie are the basis of our backline going forwards. Lots of gaps to fill

My man.
I thought you were anti AD.

I think he's a better 6 than centre.
 
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410053) said:
@geo said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409994) said:
Who does the tackling if you drop Brooks..

I didn't say drop Brooks now, I said back when Doueihi was moved, Brooks was out of form, he should have been the one to move

Defence is our biggest weakness by far...Brooks may have been down on form in attack back then but he has been defensively solid to outstanding all year...

We suck hard in defence yet people want the solution to be punt one of the few who can defend at an NRL standard and before oh it's not a halves job to defend ...well someone has to..I don't get it..
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

Thanks for posting..great insight into Closing down Wests Tigers in attack and opening us in defence..
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

Interesting insights. Thanks for the post.
 
@demps said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410153) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410128) said:
@demps said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410106) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

Douihei is the man.
He needs to get back to the 6.
Give him another chance man.

Moey ain't it.


I dont disagree with any of that...Doueihi, with Brooks and Laurie are the basis of our backline going forwards. Lots of gaps to fill

My man.
I thought you were anti AD.

I think he's a better 6 than centre.

No I can see he is a good player but simply the team plays better (atm) with him not at 6. The outside backs see more ball
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

Good insight. I have said for a long time that I would just have a running belting 1M outside LL all day
 
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410241) said:
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

Good insight. I have said for a long time that I would just have a running belting 1M outside LL all day


Whatever the opposite of performance enhancing drugs are, LL is on them in 2021
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

good post thanks
maybe LL needs to be off the bench
 
Laurie
Nofoaluma
Roberts
Pauga
Maumalo
Douiehi
Brooks
Twal
Blore
Tuilagi
Ofahengaue
Simpkin
Musgrove
Bench
Mbye
Simpkins
Amone
Stefano
Ins
Pauga
Tuilagi
Simpkin
Simpkins
Amone
Musgrove
Outs
Seyfarth
Garner
Leilua
Liddle
Mikaele
Tamou
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

Good stuff. Pretty much identical to what was discussed in other threads. A & B defenders poor, LL fatigues and has no lateral movement. Tamou poor around the ruck - especially at dummy half. AD runs in and leaves gaps. Space out wide caused by poor work in the middle.

I missed my calling - should have been a coach 🙂

I'll see myself out now...
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

great post. also confirms something that doesn't get mentioned too often on here. our back rowers are nowhere to be seen when we're camped in our own end and we need to make dirty carries. no wonder we're after a big money back rower. Luch needs a month in reserve grade, Doueihi needs to be doing extensive work on his defence, and M'Bye, Roberts and Nofo need the boot. Joffa needs to start as well.
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.


quality post
 
@weststigerman said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1412579) said:
Start with the guys who actually try.

1 - Laurie
6 - AD
7 - Brooks
8 - Twal

13 - Seyfarth

Then try and pick the rest.

I would add those that can tackle..but can only add Ofahengaue..
 

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