Your top 17, Season 2016

@goldcoast tiger said:
Too hard to pick until the last trial.
I'll be happy if the love affair between JT and Lovett has cooled.

Lol. Throw them in an ice bath. That'll cool the love fever. :mrgreen:
 
I don't know how it will shake out for Round 1, but I suspect the 1st choice team, when healthy would look like this:

1\. Tedesco

2\. Hunt
3\. Naiqama
4\. Simona
5\. Noafaluma

6\. Moses
7\. Brooks

13\. Sue
12\. Sironen
11\. Lawrence
10\. Woods
9\. Farah
8\. Grant

14\. Edwards
15\. Chee Kam
16\. Cherrington
17\. Ava
 
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I don't know how it will shake out for Round 1, but I suspect the 1st choice team, when healthy would look like this:

1\. Tedesco

2\. Hunt
3\. Naiqama
4\. Simona
5\. Noafaluma

6\. Moses
7\. Brooks

13\. Sue
12\. Sironen
11\. Lawrence
10\. Woods
9\. Farah
8\. Grant

14\. Edwards
15\. Chee Kam
16\. Cherrington
17\. Ava

You are probably right, but picking this team which is virtually the same as last year is my biggest concern.

We were crap in 2015 and if we think we are gona get anything different by changing 1 winger, JT is crazier than I thought.

1\. Fix Prop Rotation to be effective while Starting Props are off the pitch.
2\. Shut down one-side of the field through hard-arse defensive structure. _3\. Dummy-Half MUST take our forwards down the park through the middle, no more sideways crap.
4\. Reduce the number of times we go to Teddy. [While he is our most exciting attacking weapon, we need to be patient with how often we use him]
5\. No shuffling the defensive structures week to week or during games.

FIRE UP TIGERS!!!_
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I don't know how it will shake out for Round 1, but I suspect the 1st choice team, when healthy would look like this:

1\. Tedesco

2\. Hunt
3\. Naiqama
4\. Simona
5\. Noafaluma

6\. Moses
7\. Brooks

13\. Sue
12\. Sironen
11\. Lawrence
10\. Woods
9\. Farah
8\. Grant

14\. Edwards
15\. Chee Kam
16\. Cherrington
17\. Ava

You are probably right, but picking this team which is virtually the same as last year is my biggest concern.

We were crap in 2015 and if we think we are gona get anything different by changing 1 winger, JT is crazier than I thought.

1\. Fix Prop Rotation to be effective while Starting Props are off the pitch.
2\. Shut down one-side of the field through hard-arse defensive structure. _3\. Dummy-Half MUST take our forwards down the park through the middle, no more sideways crap.
4\. Reduce the number of times we go to Teddy. [While he is our most exciting attacking weapon, we need to be patient with how often we use him]
5\. No shuffling the defensive structures week to week or during games.

FIRE UP TIGERS!!!

All good points. In which case do we start with Woods & Ava at prop, Edwards at lock & save Grant & Sue for bench prop rotation to keep the momentum going?

I like the Kev/Simona centre pairing & think they're defensively strong. If anything Nofo probably needs to read the play a little better to strengthen that right side. If it's not working then Chee-Kam might be a better option at right centre.

Absolutely agree that Robbie has to get rid of the ball early or at least play straight. If not Ballin or Cherry are waiting in the wings.

Re: Teddy, there were plenty of times last year where teams were shutting our attack down by marking Teddy out of the game. We were too predictable. Two positives I took from the 9s were that Kev & Simona seem to be up for a big year so hopefully that will give our 1/2s more options. Also the added pace of Hunt/Rankin/Addo-Carr on the left wing will I believe keep the opposition in 2 minds giving us more options on the left & hopefully allow Timmy more space.

The D word is quickly becoming a dirty word! If we don't get this right nothing else matters. Just hope that all the reports of defence training during the offseason are true & effective!

Only 26 more sleeps now!!! :slight_smile:_
 
@Tiger Watto said:
I got 3 things out of the 9's:

Chee-Kam will handle Right Centre if we choose to go down the defensive path.

Ado-Carr is bloody fast but is a way off NRL defensively.

Lamar doesnt look good and may never make it at NRL level.

I agree with this. Really disapointed in Lamar, I know he is young and it was only a trial but the kid has loads of talent and just doesn't seem to be producing. Fingers crossed he realises how good he could be and puts in the extras and becomes the player we hope he would be.
 
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I don't know how it will shake out for Round 1, but I suspect the 1st choice team, when healthy would look like this:

1\. Tedesco

2\. Hunt
3\. Naiqama
4\. Simona
5\. Noafaluma

6\. Moses
7\. Brooks

13\. Sue
12\. Sironen
11\. Lawrence
10\. Woods
9\. Farah
8\. Grant

14\. Edwards
15\. Chee Kam
16\. Cherrington
17\. Ava

No room for Ballin or Halatau?
Ipswich lads, Aloiai, Parahi?
We really have some options this year…
 
**1\. Tedesco**

2.
**3\. Naiqama**
**4\. Simona**
**5\. Nofo**

**6\. Moses**
**7\. Brooks**

**8\. Woods**
**9\. Farah**
**10\. Grant**

11.
12.
**13\. Sue**

**14\. Seumanafagai**
15.
16.
17.

Pretty much open for the taking…
 
11\. lawrence
12\. sironen
17\. cherrington

not yet 100% on sue at lock or grant starting. sue could be the prop come rd 1 i reckon.
certainties too.
 
1\. Tedesco
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Chee Kam
4\. Simona
5\. Naiqama
6\. Moses
7\. Brooks
8\. Woods
9\. Farah
10\. Edwards
11\. Lawrence
12\. Halatau
13\. Sue

14\. Seumanufagai
15\. Graham
16\. Griffin
17\. Cherrington

I know, reduced interchange and all, but every one of our props are capable of big minutes - throw Sue in the mix too - so I think we just roll through the middle and Cherrington can bring the spark. Cheeky and Nofo aren't an exceptional pairing but the former should be defensively capable and Nofo is good under the high ball, so we shouldn't leak points down that edge with Halatau or Lawrence guarding the half. Nofo's an exceptional finisher too so any space that Chee Kam does create he would make the most of.
Naiqama under the high ball is a worry for me, but if that's the only option we leave the opposition then we can do our best to control it. Again, he's a good finisher and has a bit of toe, so he'd thrive outside Timmy and he can definitely hold his own defensively.
Lawrence and Halatau can be excellent defenders and both run a good line, so they're great two way players. Sirro has to start in NSW Cup for me until he learns to use his size and skill to full effect. I'd like to see Tatola and Felise get a run up a grade so we shouldn't be too short on pigs.
Edwards is basically Galloway 2.0 but with a bit more defensive firepower (not necessarily ability) and a bit less go forward, but starting with Woodsy they should easily manage 10m a run between them with the skipper picking up a bit of slack. Sue is just a machine and is only going to get better as the season goes on.
I think Ava, Dallas and Rod give us a nice variety off the bench depending on how the game is going; Ava has a bit of extra size, Graham with the motor and Griffin with the skill. It's no Pritchard/Kasiano/Eastwood but I think it's a good mix for us with the cattle we've got.
Cherrington can come off the bench when it opens up/to try and open it up and add another attacking dimension, but if he's struggling with the contact or the game just doesn't call for it then Robbie can go straight back out.

Obviously it's not the flashiest side, but it should go a long way to helping us win the battle upfront and give our halves some room to work with. With Teddy and Simona we've got two players who are almost guaranteed to beat the first man each time they touch the ball. Lawrence and Halatau aren't huge but their lines command attention, and I think it would provide the best environment for our young halves to learn how to play NRL, which needs to happen sooner or later.
 
@VanillaThunder said:
1\. Tedesco
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Chee Kam
4\. Simona
5\. Naiqama
6\. Moses
7\. Brooks
8\. Woods
9\. Farah
10\. Edwards
11\. Lawrence
12\. Halatau
13\. Sue

14\. Seumanufagai
15\. Graham
16\. Griffin
17\. Cherrington

I know, reduced interchange and all, but every one of our props are capable of big minutes - throw Sue in the mix too - so I think we just roll through the middle and Cherrington can bring the spark. Cheeky and Nofo aren't an exceptional pairing but the former should be defensively capable and Nofo is good under the high ball, so we shouldn't leak points down that edge with Halatau or Lawrence guarding the half. Nofo's an exceptional finisher too so any space that Chee Kam does create he would make the most of.
Naiqama under the high ball is a worry for me, but if that's the only option we leave the opposition then we can do our best to control it. Again, he's a good finisher and has a bit of toe, so he'd thrive outside Timmy and he can definitely hold his own defensively.
Lawrence and Halatau can be excellent defenders and both run a good line, so they're great two way players. Sirro has to start in NSW Cup for me until he learns to use his size and skill to full effect. I'd like to see Tatola and Felise get a run up a grade so we shouldn't be too short on pigs.
Edwards is basically Galloway 2.0 but with a bit more defensive firepower (not necessarily ability) and a bit less go forward, but starting with Woodsy they should easily manage 10m a run between them with the skipper picking up a bit of slack. Sue is just a machine and is only going to get better as the season goes on.
I think Ava, Dallas and Rod give us a nice variety off the bench depending on how the game is going; Ava has a bit of extra size, Graham with the motor and Griffin with the skill. It's no Pritchard/Kasiano/Eastwood but I think it's a good mix for us with the cattle we've got.
Cherrington can come off the bench when it opens up/to try and open it up and add another attacking dimension, but if he's struggling with the contact or the game just doesn't call for it then Robbie can go straight back out.

Obviously it's not the flashiest side, but it should go a long way to helping us win the battle upfront and give our halves some room to work with. With Teddy and Simona we've got two players who are almost guaranteed to beat the first man each time they touch the ball. Lawrence and Halatau aren't huge but their lines command attention, and I think it would provide the best environment for our young halves to learn how to play NRL, which needs to happen sooner or later.

If the Qld boys get to the right level of fitness, then this bench would be solid. Halatau was good for our young guys last year. Hopefully he's back and ready to go for round two. Sirro will be there for round 1\. Also hoping Chee Kam is in the 17, I like his size and energy. I've picked Cherrington on the bench as well.
 
@Tigerdon said:
@VanillaThunder said:
1\. Tedesco
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Chee Kam
4\. Simona
5\. Naiqama
6\. Moses
7\. Brooks
8\. Woods
9\. Farah
10\. Edwards
11\. Lawrence
12\. Halatau
13\. Sue

14\. Seumanufagai
15\. Graham
16\. Griffin
17\. Cherrington

I know, reduced interchange and all, but every one of our props are capable of big minutes - throw Sue in the mix too - so I think we just roll through the middle and Cherrington can bring the spark. Cheeky and Nofo aren't an exceptional pairing but the former should be defensively capable and Nofo is good under the high ball, so we shouldn't leak points down that edge with Halatau or Lawrence guarding the half. Nofo's an exceptional finisher too so any space that Chee Kam does create he would make the most of.
Naiqama under the high ball is a worry for me, but if that's the only option we leave the opposition then we can do our best to control it. Again, he's a good finisher and has a bit of toe, so he'd thrive outside Timmy and he can definitely hold his own defensively.
Lawrence and Halatau can be excellent defenders and both run a good line, so they're great two way players. Sirro has to start in NSW Cup for me until he learns to use his size and skill to full effect. I'd like to see Tatola and Felise get a run up a grade so we shouldn't be too short on pigs.
Edwards is basically Galloway 2.0 but with a bit more defensive firepower (not necessarily ability) and a bit less go forward, but starting with Woodsy they should easily manage 10m a run between them with the skipper picking up a bit of slack. Sue is just a machine and is only going to get better as the season goes on.
I think Ava, Dallas and Rod give us a nice variety off the bench depending on how the game is going; Ava has a bit of extra size, Graham with the motor and Griffin with the skill. It's no Pritchard/Kasiano/Eastwood but I think it's a good mix for us with the cattle we've got.
Cherrington can come off the bench when it opens up/to try and open it up and add another attacking dimension, but if he's struggling with the contact or the game just doesn't call for it then Robbie can go straight back out.

Obviously it's not the flashiest side, but it should go a long way to helping us win the battle upfront and give our halves some room to work with. With Teddy and Simona we've got two players who are almost guaranteed to beat the first man each time they touch the ball. Lawrence and Halatau aren't huge but their lines command attention, and I think it would provide the best environment for our young halves to learn how to play NRL, which needs to happen sooner or later.

If the Qld boys get to the right level of fitness, then this bench would be solid. Halatau was good for our young guys last year. Hopefully he's back and ready to go for round two. Sirro will be there for round 1\. Also hoping Chee Kam is in the 17, I like his size and energy. I've picked Cherrington on the bench as well.

With the players you have both picked who is going to kick our goals????????? Rankin or Hunt will be one of the wingers.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I don't know how it will shake out for Round 1, but I suspect the 1st choice team, when healthy would look like this:

1\. Tedesco

2\. Hunt
3\. Naiqama
4\. Simona
5\. Noafaluma

6\. Moses
7\. Brooks

13\. Sue
12\. Sironen
11\. Lawrence
10\. Woods
9\. Farah
8\. Grant

14\. Edwards
15\. Chee Kam
16\. Cherrington
17\. Ava

You are probably right, but picking this team which is virtually the same as last year is my biggest concern.

We were crap in 2015 and if we think we are gona get anything different by changing 1 winger, JT is crazier than I thought.

1\. Fix Prop Rotation to be effective while Starting Props are off the pitch.
2\. Shut down one-side of the field through hard-arse defensive structure. _3\. Dummy-Half MUST take our forwards down the park through the middle, no more sideways crap.
4\. Reduce the number of times we go to Teddy. [While he is our most exciting attacking weapon, we need to be patient with how often we use him]
5\. No shuffling the defensive structures week to week or during games.

FIRE UP TIGERS!!!

I know I'm in the minority, but I really didn't think the squad was so bad last year.

4 new additions to the team there- Grant virtually replaces Galloway like for like. Hunt, I believe, will upgrade Richards & his slow hit-ups out of our territory. Wingers & their ability to gain quick metres out of our 20 are becoming more important all the time.

When you then replace Santi & Lovett with Chee Kam & Edwards- I see an improvement. A big improvement, really.

It just takes away a lot of those "maybe he'll be ok today" players.

The success of this team will come down to Moses & Brooks this year. Tedesco & Farah- we pretty much know what to expect. But if Brooks & Moses can kick on, then I see some pretty noticable improvement ahead._
 
1\. Tedesco
2\. Naqaima
3\. Simona
4\. Rankin
5\. Nofoaluma
6\. Moses
7\. Brooks
8\. Woods
9\. Farah
10\. Grant
11\. Sironen
12\. Lawerence
13\. Sue

14\. Cherrington
15\. Edwards
16\. Ava
17\. Griffin

Gee that 1-13 could be awesome if everyone consistently plays to somewhere close to their best. If they play to their potential (I.e Bulldogs, Souths games in 2015) for at least 12 games in 2016, I would be confident in a top 8 finish.

The bench suffers as a result of the strong starting forward pack but maybe we can find another Taupau this season in Chee-Kam or Edwards. Either way, Ava is going to have to kick-on and play longer minutes in 2016.
 
I think the round one team is basically locked in. Only issue will be the left wing between Rankin and Hunt.

Littlejohn will be half. Sue lock.

Bench will be Ava, Edwards, Cherrington and Chee Kam
 
@king sirro said:
I think the round one team is basically locked in. Only issue will be the left wing between Rankin and Hunt.

Littlejohn will be half. Sue lock.

Bench will be Ava, Edwards, Cherrington and Chee Kam

Will Edwards be ready for our last trial a couple of weeks before the first round, as I can't see them risking an untried hammy otherwise?
 
@formerguest said:
@king sirro said:
I think the round one team is basically locked in. Only issue will be the left wing between Rankin and Hunt.

Littlejohn will be half. Sue lock.

Bench will be Ava, Edwards, Cherrington and Chee Kam

Will Edwards be ready for our last trial a couple of weeks before the first round, as I can't see them risking an untried hammy otherwise?

I think that's the only other concern. Alioi or Lovett will come in if Edwards isn't ready
 
1\. James Tedesco

2\. Justin Hunt
3\. Kevin Naiqama
4\. Tim Simona
5\. David Nofaluma

6\. Mitch Moses
7\. Luke Brooks

13\. Matt Ballin
12\. Curtis Sironen
11\. Michael Chee-Kam
10\. Aaron Woods
9\. Robbie Farah
8\. Tim Grant

14\. Sauaso Sue
15\. Curtis Sironen
16\. Rod Griffin
17\. Ava Seumanufagai
 
@Tigersman said:
1\. James Tedesco

2\. Justin Hunt
3\. Kevin Naiqama
4\. Tim Simona
5\. David Nofaluma

6\. Mitch Moses
7\. Luke Brooks

13\. Matt Ballin
12\. Curtis Sironen
11\. Michael Chee-Kam
10\. Aaron Woods
9\. Robbie Farah
8\. Tim Grant

14\. Sauaso Sue
15\. Curtis Sironen
16\. Rod Griffin
17\. Ava Seumanufagai

Curtis is going to be busy.
 
At full strength I think our side will competitive most weeks. Its more about how the dynamic is with players, coaches and game plans.

ON paper we do have an Origin front row (8,9,10) and potential superstars at the back and in the halves. Its not a bad starting point. We can light some teams up in these areas, we are not as weak as people make out in the media. Last year I thought we had the attack to trouble sides but rarely used it.

The backrow and the bench do look light on. I think we will still struggle there to match the top sides.

Im more interested in trying to get a vibe about the place. If Farah, Taylor and everyone is all firing and determined to play some sparking football well we might well be a big surprise.

If the game plans are turgid and half the team are not happy with the footy we are playing it will be more of the same. With a squad like ours you need everybody on the same page and working in the one direction.

Im not totally against Taylor trying to bring in some defensive structures and parts of game plans. However this year we need to be let of the leash and play some balanced football. 5 hit ups and a bomb wont do it.
 
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