LeichhardtTiger
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@LeichhardtTiger Not Luke but Liam sorry for the typos
GNR4LIFE
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Idiot signed a 3 year contract and would have been a regular first grader this year. Oh well, not our problem.
Harvey
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Surely there is more evidence to come. Based on that article I am wondering how he even got charged.
I think Musgrove has engaged the famous Sri Lankan defense lawyer Ramatoungadownathroata..
happy_tiger
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@Geo said in [Musgrove article](/post/1045165) said:
Craig McDermott tried to engage him but they had a communication breakdown and it fell through ....cost us a World Cup
As I always like to say " You will take your wife into your own hands if you come to my country "
weststigers
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@GNR4LIFE said in [Musgrove article](/post/1045124) said:
Based on the article...it looks like he's been stitched up...curious as to why you've formed that opinion?
Spud_Murphy
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@Milky said in [Musgrove article](/post/1045226) said:
So you think it’s just ok to grab a woman at a bar and forcibly kiss and grope her whenever you feel like it?
earl
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@Spud_Murphy - that is a different issue. It doesn't sound like the evidence was strong enough to state that was what happened.
happy_tiger
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The biggest problem in modern law is that in cases where it involves women or children a male has to prove his innocence ....the law actually has changed even though it hasn't legally
CarltonDry
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@LeichhardtTiger said in [Musgrove article](/post/1045107) said:
He’s probably on a CC contract
balmain boy
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If that's all there is then I hope this woman sees jail time and Musgrove sues her for massive damages.
An example needs to be made of these wannabe groupies who then claim they were terrorised. If she approached him and reciprocated his advances then she needs to feel the full wrath of the law for publicing smearing an innocent man and costing him up to a million dollars.
Of course if there is more evidence which proves he did commit a crime then by all means he should be prosecuted accordingly.
An example needs to be made of these wannabe groupies who then claim they were terrorised. If she approached him and reciprocated his advances then she needs to feel the full wrath of the law for publicing smearing an innocent man and costing him up to a million dollars.
Of course if there is more evidence which proves he did commit a crime then by all means he should be prosecuted accordingly.
dazza65
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@happy_tiger yes it does seem that you’re guilty unless you can prove your innocence
Coastie_Tiger
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If he get off this is going to get interesting, he had a 3 year deal signed but not registered. I wonder whether he can claim some form of compensation off the woman and potentially the NRL.
tig_prmz
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I wouldn't think approaching and kissing gives consent to "touching breasts" and "thrusting pubic region". anyway, it's a gray area.
NRL isn't going to compensate him- guilty or not. The guidelines are clear. The only way he'll get anything is through a counter suit.
Innocent till proven guilty only applies in court- not in social and public media. As I said, there is no black and white.
NRL isn't going to compensate him- guilty or not. The guidelines are clear. The only way he'll get anything is through a counter suit.
Innocent till proven guilty only applies in court- not in social and public media. As I said, there is no black and white.
The_Patriot
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Looking like another NRL mess up.
NRL punishing the lesser name players while ignoring the favoured clubs.
NRL punishing the lesser name players while ignoring the favoured clubs.
Ex-NRL club players 'scared' woman in pub
Hannah Higgins
Australian Associated PressOCTOBER 14, 20195:15PM
A 23-year-old woman who says she was indecently assaulted by two rugby league players at a Sydney pub has been asked in court to watch CCTV footage of the incident and identify her dance moves.
Former South Sydney NRL prop Zane Musgrove, 23, and former Penrith reserve-grade player Liam Coleman, 23, have pleaded not guilty to aggravated indecent assault in company and indecent assault. The pair were charged after the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, told police Musgrove had pulled her close and repeatedly kissed her aggressively at the Coogee Bay Hotel in November 2018. The woman says Musgrove grabbed her breast briefly and later thrust his pubic region into her hip.
She previously told a court Coleman, the son of Souths great Craig Coleman, was standing nearby when this happened and "launched forward with both his hands and put them on my breasts". Under cross-examination on Monday from Musgrove's barrister Phillip English, the woman was taken back through six minutes of grainy, black-and-white CCTV footage capturing her interactions with the men.
Having previously said she'd felt scared and uncomfortable during the incident, Mr English asked why she hadn't scolded the pair or walked away. The woman told the court she "froze" when the incidents occurred. "You go into survival mode if you feel scared like that," she told Downing Centre Local Court. "I bloody wish I did (walk away)."
She hit back at suggestions she had been dancing with the men during the alleged assault. "Dancing with someone doesn't mean that what I'm saying didn't happen ... it's irrelevant," she said.
"I don't think that that was a consensual dance move. I think it looks like he's grabbed my hands and is moving from side to side."
Mr English continued to press the woman on her dancing. "Is that called 'the penguin'?" he asked her of one moment in the clip, before moving on to query how well she danced while in shock.
Mr English's line of questioning brought the woman to tears. "Like, really?" she said, before asking for a break. Mr English also asked the woman whether Musgrove could have been doing the "grind" dance move when he thrust his pubic region into her hip, to which she answered "he's still doing it".
During the footage Musgrove can be seen repeatedly placing his arm around the woman's neck, pulling her towards him and kissing her.
The woman pointed out to the court the moment Coleman allegedly groped her breasts in the CCTV footage. However, the view of the alleged assault was obscured by Musgrove and cannot be seen in full. Under cross-examination the woman previously admitted she had approached Musgrove at the bar.
At the time of the incident, Musgrove had signed to play for Wests Tigers in 2019, but was later denied registration by the NRL.
As Coleman arrived at court on Monday, he used a water bottle he was carrying to squirt water at a photographer in front of him.
Hannah Higgins
Australian Associated PressOCTOBER 14, 20195:15PM
A 23-year-old woman who says she was indecently assaulted by two rugby league players at a Sydney pub has been asked in court to watch CCTV footage of the incident and identify her dance moves.
Former South Sydney NRL prop Zane Musgrove, 23, and former Penrith reserve-grade player Liam Coleman, 23, have pleaded not guilty to aggravated indecent assault in company and indecent assault. The pair were charged after the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, told police Musgrove had pulled her close and repeatedly kissed her aggressively at the Coogee Bay Hotel in November 2018. The woman says Musgrove grabbed her breast briefly and later thrust his pubic region into her hip.
She previously told a court Coleman, the son of Souths great Craig Coleman, was standing nearby when this happened and "launched forward with both his hands and put them on my breasts". Under cross-examination on Monday from Musgrove's barrister Phillip English, the woman was taken back through six minutes of grainy, black-and-white CCTV footage capturing her interactions with the men.
Having previously said she'd felt scared and uncomfortable during the incident, Mr English asked why she hadn't scolded the pair or walked away. The woman told the court she "froze" when the incidents occurred. "You go into survival mode if you feel scared like that," she told Downing Centre Local Court. "I bloody wish I did (walk away)."
She hit back at suggestions she had been dancing with the men during the alleged assault. "Dancing with someone doesn't mean that what I'm saying didn't happen ... it's irrelevant," she said.
"I don't think that that was a consensual dance move. I think it looks like he's grabbed my hands and is moving from side to side."
Mr English continued to press the woman on her dancing. "Is that called 'the penguin'?" he asked her of one moment in the clip, before moving on to query how well she danced while in shock.
Mr English's line of questioning brought the woman to tears. "Like, really?" she said, before asking for a break. Mr English also asked the woman whether Musgrove could have been doing the "grind" dance move when he thrust his pubic region into her hip, to which she answered "he's still doing it".
During the footage Musgrove can be seen repeatedly placing his arm around the woman's neck, pulling her towards him and kissing her.
The woman pointed out to the court the moment Coleman allegedly groped her breasts in the CCTV footage. However, the view of the alleged assault was obscured by Musgrove and cannot be seen in full. Under cross-examination the woman previously admitted she had approached Musgrove at the bar.
At the time of the incident, Musgrove had signed to play for Wests Tigers in 2019, but was later denied registration by the NRL.
As Coleman arrived at court on Monday, he used a water bottle he was carrying to squirt water at a photographer in front of him.
Jimmy
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Doesn’t sound to good for Musgrove
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