Zane Musgrove

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This sounds familiar. Does Mrs Madge work at Souths? Madge won't want to coach against his step son. Maybe the Roosters will want to sign them as a package deal.
 
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Work up front? Packer barely cracked 50m a game all year.

It’s not all about metres gained, the tough stuff unfortunately doesn’t get measured. Watch Packer closely, he’s a tenacious defender and craps across field making tackles that his team mates miss.

Packer's jocks must be a train-wreck by fulltime…....

Sorry Tony, knew what you were trying to say :wink:

? good pickup, you can be my proof reader
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Well, I didn't question it as he's been known to have a piddle out there. So I figured it was fact.
 
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You all realize that Zane Musgrave is Michael Maguire's step son

I question the reasons he is coming on board then - because he is a good player fitting our squad or to keep family employed….
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Good God. Please tell me you are just trolling the troll.
 
Think someone has their information wrong. Momorovski is actually Maguire’s step son.

That is why he turned down Manly to coach here
 
And to show his commitment, he is planning to adopt the entire 30 man roster.

We will truly be the family club
 
Are we still allowed to use the Bus analogy???

Can someone check with CEO Pascoe ASAP please
 
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Musgrave would be fine if the the two ahead of him play like starting props.
I hope Maguire gets Packer and Matulino playing like the enforcers they were meant to be instead of the cameo appearances they delivered this year.

You’re a hard task master, Packer & Matulino stood up this year in their first year - we didn’t exactly have the quickest backline to capitalise on their work up front,, plus the hooking position was a real problem in the front row until Robbie arrived!
The smiling assassin’s attitude didn’t help in the coaching stakes either, with his ‘close enough is good enough’ demeanour and hiding behind his self instilled 5 year rebuilding excuses.
Add a more aggressive coach this year with a plan for immediate success we’ll all be on the same page, especially with some strategic signings.

Cant agree Tony. As far as workload goes they got it easy compared to most other starting props in the comp imo - and were completely dominated at the backend of the year giving us no chance of competeing in the finals.
They may have been carrying injury, and or following tactics as some have argued, but I am hoping Maguire gets alot more metres, tackles, and time on the park from them both this year.
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I don't know, I think it's too easy and careless to overly criticise Packer and Matulino for 2018\. I personally don't believe that the "metres made" metric is the be-all of props, and what I find interesting is that many people criticise Packerlino for not making enough metres, but then people criticised Woods for making lots of metres, but "being too slow in the play the ball" and making too many ineffective tackles.

Sure, the ideal prop makes 40 tackles per game and 100+ metres, but how many NRL props actually average that over a year, whilst also ensuring low errors, quick PTB, some good offloads?

Tigers defence 2018 totally turned around - ended up 6th best defensive team, even allowing for two absolute blow-outs against Rabbits and Raiders. I feel Packerlino had a lot to do with that, with keeping the middle tight and keeping us in most games until the death.

Problem for me is they need support, and in 2018 they got very little of it. Hooth was pedestrian in attack but tradesman-like in defense and distribution - which is his job and I believe the limit of his ability. Twal was great in patches, but also patchy and needs a few more seasons to be that next-level prop. Sue was good for about 6 weeks at the end, Aloiai was terrific for about 10 minutes per game but couldn't stop dropping the footy. Grant was mostly useless, MCK tried hard but didn't contribute in the middle much, ET tackled like a demon but was dominated in most hitups. That leaves Lawrence doing his best to defend inside the halves and make edge runs and two nearly useless attacking players - Rochow and McQueen.

If the prop rotation was instead something like Packer, Matulino, Woods, Twal then you'd have something more. Look at Sharkies - they would normally open with Fifita, Prior and Gallen, then sub Woods and Bukuya, supported for 80 mins by Lewis and Graham. THAT is a forward pack and you don't end up leaving all the hitups to Fifita and Gallen.
 
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Musgrave would be fine if the the two ahead of him play like starting props.
I hope Maguire gets Packer and Matulino playing like the enforcers they were meant to be instead of the cameo appearances they delivered this year.

You’re a hard task master, Packer & Matulino stood up this year in their first year - we didn’t exactly have the quickest backline to capitalise on their work up front,, plus the hooking position was a real problem in the front row until Robbie arrived!
The smiling assassin’s attitude didn’t help in the coaching stakes either, with his ‘close enough is good enough’ demeanour and hiding behind his self instilled 5 year rebuilding excuses.
Add a more aggressive coach this year with a plan for immediate success we’ll all be on the same page, especially with some strategic signings.

Cant agree Tony. As far as workload goes they got it easy compared to most other starting props in the comp imo - and were completely dominated at the backend of the year giving us no chance of competeing in the finals.
They may have been carrying injury, and or following tactics as some have argued, but I am hoping Maguire gets alot more metres, tackles, and time on the park from them both this year.

I don't know, I think it's too easy and careless to overly criticise Packer and Matulino for 2018\. I personally don't believe that the "metres made" metric is the be-all of props, and what I find interesting is that many people criticise Packerlino for not making enough metres, but then people criticised Woods for making lots of metres, but "being too slow in the play the ball" and making too many ineffective tackles.

Sure, the ideal prop makes 40 tackles per game and 100+ metres, but how many NRL props actually average that over a year, whilst also ensuring low errors, quick PTB, some good offloads?

Tigers defence 2018 totally turned around - ended up 6th best defensive team, even allowing for two absolute blow-outs against Rabbits and Raiders. I feel Packerlino had a lot to do with that, with keeping the middle tight and keeping us in most games until the death.

Problem for me is they need support, and in 2018 they got very little of it. Hooth was pedestrian in attack but tradesman-like in defense and distribution - which is his job and I believe the limit of his ability. Twal was great in patches, but also patchy and needs a few more seasons to be that next-level prop. Sue was good for about 6 weeks at the end, Aloiai was terrific for about 10 minutes per game but couldn't stop dropping the footy. Grant was mostly useless, MCK tried hard but didn't contribute in the middle much, ET tackled like a demon but was dominated in most hitups. That leaves Lawrence doing his best to defend inside the halves and make edge runs and two nearly useless attacking players - Rochow and McQueen.

If the prop rotation was instead something like Packer, Matulino, Woods, Twal then you'd have something more. Look at Sharkies - they would normally open with Fifita, Prior and Gallen, then sub Woods and Bukuya, supported for 80 mins by Lewis and Graham. THAT is a forward pack and you don't end up leaving all the hitups to Fifita and Gallen.
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There is validty in most of what you say but barring carrying an injury their individual perfornances/ contributions imo were not good enough to take us further in the competition as our two starting props based on what I saw this year. They had some good moments, but overall were disappointing especially toward the backend of the season - and with an overall less than impressive work rate throughout the year.
They are either our best props who lay the platform for the team to get on the front foot or we need to find some who can, that they can support.
Im hoping for a lot more trom them next year with three years to run on their contracts they need to lift a gear imo.
 
Oh we are the great mediocre accepters..they were crap for a good half a year..If it wasn't for Nofo, Marsters nd whoever else was in the back 3 we went nowhere..
 
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Oh we are the great mediocre accepters..they were crap for a good half a year..If it wasn't for Nofo, Marsters nd whoever else was in the back 3 we went nowhere..
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Can't argue with that, we need help in the forwards, and in the backs, all with only 2 spots left, start tapping blokes on the shoulder Madge, and bring in some quality
 
The great Lurker reports it’s a swap for McQueen. He’s the ultimate guesser but it makes sense.
 
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