Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kelce68]

Isn't Madge a renowned defensive coach. Isn't that a major reason why we hired him?

This is the most over-repeated and ne'er-referenced trope in the game.

At what point did Madge declare 'I'm a defensively-minded coach'?

And conversely, point me to a coach who isn't 'defensively-minded'.

It's garbage and a lazy take.

 

[Speed2burn]

Would you call Lui a game changing halfback?

I think it was all Benji and Farah and Lui just played a controlled, simple game that benefited those two chief play makers.

Agree with this one, Benji and Farah were at their peak and carried us during those years. Lui is probably no better than Brooks but those two were out of this world good. Plus Lawrence pre hip injury...Ellis were very handy aswell

Devo we couldn't win another trophy those years

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Maybe he is a defensive guru but I've never seen a coach turn ordinary players into great players. I don't think that will ever happen.

Perhaps Bellamy would disagree?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Would you call Lui a game changing halfback?

I think it was all Benji and Farah and Lui just played a controlled, simple game that benefited those two chief play makers.

How many years did we have Benji and Robbie. They only made the finals when a decent halfback was between them. They couldn’t do it by themselves.

 

[earl]

Perhaps Bellamy would disagree?

Good comeback but to me he proves my point. Look at the cattle he has had and look at all the rorting they've done. That is why they've been a top team.

 

[tony soprano]

If Ciraldo leaves Panthers, Gus will get him to the bulldog's.

I wouldn't hold out this long just to go to the dogs

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

How many years did we have Benji and Robbie. They only made the finals when a decent halfback was between them. They couldn’t do it by themselves.

Also, remember that we did not have a decent FB after Hodgson left and Tedesco arrived.

 

[Merlot]

Media release.
STB, can you tell the rest of the Forum that Cobarcats will not be coming out of retirement to fix the WT defensive issues. The rumours must stop.
Whilst he would instantly fix their woes he has declined the 1.1m~year offer and instead settled on breeding budgies in Brisbane.

a sneeky suspicion you;ve been using Twal to smuggle them over the boarder

 

[Odessa]

Lui was a 5/8 wearing 7..

Sheensy loved 5/8th..

Maybe his plan is to get back coaching NRL and have a backline of 5/8 a bit like Canterbury and the wingers club

 

[PJ_]

Maybe he is a defensive guru but I've never seen a coach turn ordinary players into great players. I don't think that will ever happen.

Bellamy

 

[PJ_]

I don't see it as this simplistic. You need to build a better squad. I don't think getting the spoon helps at all.

I don't think we just paper over issues either. The problem is recruitment and retention but that is the Rorters forte. I don't believe the Rorters are so much better managed than us. They just rort the cap better than us. I bet heaps of clubs do it as well. I've suggested for ages the way for us to get ahead is for us to rort the cap more. We do it and we under the cap and we get caught.

We need to get better at cheating then

 

[PJ_]

Can I ask a serious question ? What’s the point for guys like you being so into something , that clearly makes you miserable ? Those 3 messages have no glimmer of hope , no optimism, no reason to keep watching , at all .
And the deflecting response will be “well how can you have hope 10 years etc . “ but you’d be missing my point . Why ?
Im hopeful for this year . My expectations are low , so I’ll be watching with minimal investment , as opposed to most previous years .
But that’s a good thing . It will mean my family won’t have to see me chuck the remote at the wall , or scream at a black box with pictures on it .
I don’t see that in your posts . I see perpetual negatives , that make me ask why bother ?
Is it more the echo chamber , and group think of places like discord ? Which I notice every time someone who is clearly apart of that boys club is questioned or called out , it’s then follows by 3 or 4 guys ripping into the person who called them out . I keep saying this by the way , because every 2-4 weeks I have a look and the same stuff keeps repeating .
I find that whole way of thought to be mandarin to me . Completely unintelligible.

I'm hopeful every year.
I'm disappointed every year.
I can't turn off my love for the tigers, I've cheered them on since inception and before that balmain since 89.
Don't see why discord has to come into it. It's exactly the same as here but a lot less pc.
Less mandarin😉

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Agree with this one, Benji and Farah were at their peak and carried us during those years. Lui is probably no better than Brooks but those two were out of this world good. Plus Lawrence pre hip injury...Ellis were very handy aswell

Devo we couldn't win another trophy those years

Lui had superb hands, spatial awareness and also a tremendous pass. He was very strong and quick over the first few metres. There is a highlights reel putting I believe Eillis into space on the right hand side of the field. It was an amazing ball. He was a special talent and it is very sad how his career ended in the NRL.

 

[PJ_]

This is the most over-repeated and ne'er-referenced trope in the game.

At what point did Madge declare 'I'm a defensively-minded coach'?

And conversely, point me to a coach who isn't 'defensively-minded'.

It's garbage and a lazy take.

Iirc it was one of the reasons given when we signed him? Could be wrong, that's why I asked the question.

 

[Tcat]

**Rothfield Warning** - Along those lines

On NRL360 on Monday Rothfield said Sheens told him something along the lines of - he realises we won't win the comp this year he just doesn't want to see us getting flogged

Probably the truth unfortunately.

 

[PJ_]

Lui had superb hands, spatial awareness and also a tremendous pass. He was very strong and quick over the first few metres. There is a highlights reel putting I believe Eillis into space on the right hand side of the field. It was an amazing ball. He was a special talent and it is very sad how his career ended in the NRL.

I really liked Lui. Thought he did a tremendous job for us

 

[jadtiger]

I really liked Lui. Thought he did a tremendous job for us

Great footballer an absolute shit as a man

 

[Bones]

Can't get much worse.

I disagree. 2 or 3 spoons in a row would be much worse. Change for the sake of change is not a direction I’d like to see.

In the right team Brooks is more than capable. Until there is a better option I’d like to see us upgrade the players around him. We still have 5 or 6 players that wouldn’t get a start at too many other clubs. It’s much easier to find a couple of decent props, back towers and centres than it is a halfback.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Holiday culture .same as the titans . Even during our glory years , turning up on D was a choice it wasn’t compulsory , or always going to make a difference whether we won or lost , because of The skilled list .

Our culture sucked/sux , and the more we tried to fix that by implementing cultures that work in places like Melbourne , the worse our culture got . Because then it was confusion mixed in with a soft underbelly .
And too many guys here to play nrl , like Robbie said not here to play for the tigers .
We have to create/ foster a love of the club , which should lead to more wins .
Luke gives a toss . He’s there every time a team makes a break . Every time one of ours does .
But he’s not putting up back page articles or having his mates on 360 talk about how amazing he is , so eventually the narrative around him has skewed to what he doesn’t do so much , that no one ever notices the 90% of the time he does what he’s supposed to do . All of us sitting waiting for him to mess up .
We have all been manipulated by the fox media , even the guys who support him , like me .
To what agenda ? Honestly I think its either deflection from the heinous stuff teams like south’s and Cronulla get up to on the weekend , or , they want to take him away because he’s one of the rare 6 guys in the comp right now wio can actually play halfback .

My observation is that you cant change lazy or mediocre culture with personel who didn’t sign up for it. This is not limited to the NRL. Happens in all organizations. The salary cap and long contracts mean we were stuck with players long term who didnt buy in. Compounding this was I believe managers saw the tigers as a dumping ground for their overpaid, worn out fringe first graders.

Most of those players have finally moved on This seasons results will show if we’ve turned the corner or not.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I disagree. 2 or 3 spoons in a row would be much worse. Change for the sake of change is not a direction I’d like to see.

In the right team Brooks is more than capable. Until there is a better option I’d like to see us upgrade the players around him. We still have 5 or 6 players that wouldn’t get a start at too many other clubs. It’s much easier to find a couple of decent props, back towers and centres than it is a halfback.

There is always worse. Look at Billy Walters.