Brooks Bashers Bore Me

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watersider said:
I basically agree with Cronk's analysis, but I'm only an outsider and I don't think he knows much about Brooks' play.

I believe that Cronk analyses the game like a bandwagon fan. His analysis boils down to the best teams are really good, the clubs at the top of the table are really well run and players are really good if the team is winning. I suppose it's hard to argue with those points but it feels like it's not so much based on analysis of the game rather than confidently asserting that winners are grinners.

His repeated argument that good players should not go to clubs like the tigers if they want to further their career is one such example. Cronk is the product of a successful club and his experiences don't include developing and turning a club around. So basically in his mind, what's bad must stay bad and what's good is definitely so. But this ignores many players like Matterson, Grant, Leulia, Tapau, Addo-Carr, Koriebate, Tedesco, Moses who earned big contracts elsewhere off the back of being at our club after either being developed by us or struggling at their previous club. Our club does develop players well, we just haven't had success.

Cronk also has no experience of players like Ben Kennedy at Manly, Andrew Johns at Newcastle, Benji Marshall at the Tigers who managed to transform a club and make them successful.

So Cronk basically has a very conservative and narrow view that doesn't include much appreciation of what good players look like on bad teams, or how players can influence and change a culture of a club because he had success on a platter his whole career. He was also a great player and contributed to that platter in a massive way, but if he'd started at a rubbish club, I think he'd have a bit more perspective.

In summary, I don't really care what he thinks, he's just a massive Roosters/Storm fanboy.
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Good points but Cronk was a great 7 and leader. I think he’s earned an opinion.
 
Westie said:
Any one watch Cronk on nrl 360 tonight? They quizzed him on our game.... just to summarise basically Brooks does not have the football IQ to manage a game.. thats what a lot of people have been saying on the forum..
And thats why we are in the position we are, he is not doing him self or the team staying at 7....
Madge's downside is that he is not trying him in another position.i guess his hands are tied atm.
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We'll be told Cronk hasn't got a clue next. He's bang on tho and many on here have been saying the same thing for some time now.
 
Cooper Cronk was bang on, Brooks has no football IQ, never has he is an instinctive running half not an organizer. I actually feel sorry for him, he needs to go to another club asap the Super League would suit his game, he never will be an elite number 7, maybe a solid 6 but not a 7.
 
Cronk is one of the smartest footy brains around... if you're refusing to listen to what he says it shows how biased you are

He was bang on, it's always been Brooks problem. He never owns games, he doesn't make the right decisions when it gets tough and he just generally isn't a smart footballer.

Who cares what teams he played for - he still lead them around and won multiple grand finals. He lead a team around with a busted shoulder in a grand final!
 
WT2K said:
We'll be told Cronk hasn't got a clue next. He's bang on tho and many on here have been saying the same thing for some time now.
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Its already started. Cronk is spot on and someone not afraid to speak his mind.

Ex players speaking their minds against our club, even if they are saying the same thing as 80% of the fans get shot down in here. Its predictable and in all honesty a little bit sad how some of our bed wetters react to brutal honesty.
 
They were in a position to win a game that they won't be in against many teams because of obvious reasons. No excuses for the players in that game.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Correct. He did say that. But he also said that Montoya was playing on the left so attacking the right should have occurred more than twice out of nineteen plays. He gave the youngsters a free pass. On one occasion Brooks attacked there and Laurie dropped it. Another time Gildart ran across field and passed across Madden’s face. So madden had zero shots out of 19. But we’ll give him a free pass!
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And on another two occasions Simpkin passed to Brooks on the left and twice Brooks passed it to where it needed to go on the right, but the players there had no idea what to do with it.
Brooks needs a more experienced spine and that includes a fb who can bring his catching game.
Cronk is comfortable telling us that good halves like himself take control of the situation and win the game. The reality is though, he was part of a very experienced, skilful spine which played at junior level and origin together.
It’s stupid to be so critical of Brooks for what others can’t do.
 
Just wait ... We've got another 21 or so weeks with this merry-go-round ...

Does this mean Brooks needs to be leashed, or needs to be unleashed?

"Releashed"
 
twentyforty said:
And on another two occasions Simpkin passed to Brooks on the left and twice Brooks passed it to where it needed to go on the right, but the players there had no idea what to do with it.
Brooks needs a more experienced spine and that includes a fb who can bring his catching game.
Cronk is comfortable telling us that good halves like himself take control of the situation and win the game. The reality is though, he was part of a very experienced, skilful spine which played at junior level and origin together.
It’s stupid to be so critical of Brooks for what others can’t do.
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No stupidity is ignoring the words of an alaysyt like Cronk.
 
I agree with Cooper Cronks analysis we know it’s spot on all to well. Brooks is not a Batman he’s a Robin. He’s a runner not an organiser and distributor and at the moment he’s Robin the Tigers of salary cap and a halfback. He’s a first grader and a solid athlete but you can’t teach footy smarts and quick decision making you have it or you don’t. Our analysis or players skills is the worst in the league. Talent identification has been shambolic.
 
tony soprano said:
Fair point but it's really not rocket science to aim your attack to where the player got sent off. It's not first grade standard.
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True. Why didn’t jock call the ball? His side of the pitch. Look It’s a team game. I agree Brooks is as much to blame as anyone for the last 10 mins, but less than Laurie.
 
twentyforty said:
And on another two occasions Simpkin passed to Brooks on the left and twice Brooks passed it to where it needed to go on the right, but the players there had no idea what to do with it.
Brooks needs a more experienced spine and that includes a fb who can bring his catching game.
Cronk is comfortable telling us that good halves like himself take control of the situation and win the game. The reality is though, he was part of a very experienced, skilful spine which played at junior level and origin together.
It’s stupid to be so critical of Brooks for what others can’t do.
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Brooks is the highest paid player (by a long way) and the supposed general of the team.
Having over 170 games under his belt it was his job to call the shots and demand the ball… not leave it to a 4 game rookie 5/8 or a 20yo hooker.
Time to face facts… he hasn’t got it in him.
 
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