Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[krissy]

That’s the great thing about a democracy, we are lucky enough to be able to have a political decision without being executed or sent to a Gulag.

Women can even protest without being shot. Thanks Scomo

 

[bathursttiger1]

Women can even protest without being shot. Thanks Scomo

They can also vote, (Thank heavens).

 

[Tim Sheens]

Not a fan of Gillard or Rudd or Keating but at least they knew detail and knew what they were talking about
Albo is an economic Moron and a policy moron, just no across the detail
It won't be easy under Albanese

Don't confuse the gift of the gab with actual ability. Morrison is that confident loud mouth manager we know. The basically incompetent type that most all of us have worked for/with that is there on bluster and undermining others.

Albanese was the manager of government business in minority and as such was responsible for the most successful passing of legislation in living memory. Also with a record as Infrastructure minister that easily stands above others in recent decades.

Morrison has lead the way in making ours a nation of secrecy and corruption, having been sacked by his own party for impropriety when head of tourism, as well as in New Zealand.

Guarantee that Albanese if successful will not be alienating foreign leaders and inviting the likes of paedophile protecting mates to the meet a president.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I hope you've settled down @Cultured_Bogan. 😉
I'm not saying @Tiger Tragic is a deluded fool...you stated that.
As @Cobarcats said...you are one of the nicest blokes on here, but I feel you have lowered your standard in a big way by replying as you did.
You are a Forum Leader and I feel you should be setting a better example.

I was shocked 😱 and very disappointed 😡 reading your post with the way you expressed yourself.
I feel you should make a large contribution to the swear jar, then write out 100 times
"I will use better words next time" 👍 😍
Edit...I just want it to be clear that I am not defending Tiger Tragic in any way.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

 

[Kaito]

Lesser evil 😆

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Yeah I'm sure all those university-educated engineers, doctors, actuaries and the like are all "completely closed minded, indoctrinated and dangerous". Idiotic anti-intellectualism at its finest...

Some of the stupidest people I've met have attended university. Going to uni does not equate to being intelligent.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Well said Swordy,unfortunately through these last 2/3 years of tough times for most,the good people of Aust have found that there are always 2 kinds of people,the vax program is a highlight...I honestly think that the MSM and social media is to blame for most of it...An example of this is that I walked into the supermarket yesterday,only one person wore a mask in the whole store,a really nice lady asked the person why she needed to wear a mask when the mandates have been lifted,her answer was,because people that dont wear a mask can make me sick,their the reason that we will never get out of this pandemic....I laughed to myself and just walked on...
I have noticed though that in any kind of conversation of late whether in the club,pub or on here,if you have a differing opinion to others,its more aggression that is shown in the conversation rather than sensible dialogue...(Im right your definately wrong type aggression)....
Any way to reiterate what you lastly said about being kind,caring etc....
There are but three words....

HOPE...FAITH...LOVE....
The greatest of these is LOVE....

You're talking about "sensible dialogue" and you're laughing at someone who's exercised their right to wear one? Sounds dismissive to me.

You're not legally required to wear one, she's exercising her right to wear one. What's the problem?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

My feeling is that interest rates will be higher than anyone imagines in coming years.

Also QE is being recovered so a major contraction in money supply.


Inflation is one reason.

But the main reason is that the U.S. dollars reserve currency status is under threat because the people with PhDs that helped create their economic policies apart from creating the FIAT system they failed to give adequate considerations to what would happen if nations including other superpower countries like China and Russia as well as countries with large commodity bases reduce U.S. dollar trade.

U.S. dollar trade in 2007 was 70%. Nowadays it is under 50%.

Russia has announced it is moving to a commodity and gold backed currency by years end. China and the middle east soon after. Obviously, in that climate higher bond yields are required to make the U.S. dollar more attractive as a home for capital.

It is another reason that they are so zealous with regards the Ukraine war.

The architecture of America's financial system entails global hegemony.

Obviously that was a flawed outlook.

And our very own Costello sold most of Australia's gold in 99 at $250 U.S. an ounce.

He isn't on jobseeker but rather the head of the the future fund.

I hope everyone budgeted for double digit interest rates. I know I did.

 

[Kaito]

Dempsey is the real buldger

 

[BZN]

You are abusive yourself, you just use condescension.
CB spoke to that character exactly the way he deserves to be spoken to.

That's your opinion and your entitled to it.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'm surprised to be honest the amount of division amongst people, and that includes this forum with lack of respect for others views.

If someone likes Scomo, thats their choice. I someone likes Albo, that's their choice. If someone likes independents, thats their choice. If someone wants to draw a penis on their ballot paper, thats their choice too. Its a right of freedom in our very lucky country.

Discussing the issues is one thing, but claiming someone else is wrong because they share a different view, have a different life perspective, have different reasons or place different values or priorities on certain things is just divisive.

The joys of a relaxed country which is a far more genuine democracy than most.!

Even when some one states what they claim to be a fact.....you might know it is completely false. Respectfully point out what you know and help educate your fellow man. If they take your advice/learnings, then good for you. If they dont, that is their choice - and it's not wrong either. There is no need to repeat repeat repeat. If its not taken on the first respectful occasion, move on. Politics is just so devisive at the moment for some reason, overseas and in Australia. Is it social media and everyone thinking their opinion is worth more than others or something?

One thing is for sure, if you take a moment to be happy, respect others, be polite, caring and kind, our country will be far better regardless of who is running the country.

I don't have issue with anyone who has a different opinion to me politically. I sit centre-left, my wife I would consider is centre-right. My in-laws are conservative and they are good people. My mother is left wing and my father votes Shooters & Fishers. My best mate is a dyed in the wool LNP voter and I could not imagine him ever voting Labor. There's people I have had arguments with in this thread who are right-leaning. Just because I have a difference of opinion with them politically I don't believe that to be a character defect. Hell, there's people that I have very similar political opinions to in this thread that I don't think much of.

We all have unique experiences and influences in life that brings us to where we are now and the beliefs that shape us. Unless you're calling for Australia to become the fourth Reich or adopt Stalinism I would consider anything I say to anyone and anything anyone says to me in this thread just a bit of discourse and I don't hold anything personally against anyone for voicing their political opinion.

It's good to be exposed to opinions that challenge your own.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I hope everyone budgeted for double digit interest rates. I know I did.

I don't think so sadly.

Trouble is the RBA led by Dr Lowe and Dr Debelle PhDs told everyone repeatedly interest rates will remain low till 2024 and low by historical standards.

So some people took that expert advice and got mortgaged to the hilt and now are sucked in.

There must be some accountability.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't think so sadly.

Trouble is the RBA led by Dr Lowe and Dr Debelle PhDs told everyone repeatedly interest rates will remain low till 2024 and low by historical standards.

So some people took that expert advice and got mortgaged to the hilt and now are sucked in.

There must be some accountability.

There's a diverse range of people who will be hit by this.

There'll be people who had to have everything and mortgaged themselves to the hilt when they could have settled for less who will get ruined by a 25 basis point increase. I have to say I find it hard to feel sorry for those types.

There'll also be people who scrimped and saved to get a deposit and could only afford the absolute bare minimum available just to get in the market. They've risked it just to enter the market and try to own their own home and build equity. An interest rate rise might cripple them or ruin their ability to save. Anything goes wrong with their property they may have to extend their mortgage to make repairs or they may have to sell in a market where they may be a property fire sale due to potential bulk mortgage defaults which may see them sell for less than what they have bought for. That's heartbreaking for people who just wanted to own their own home and were prepared to start at the bottom just to get their foot in the door.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

There's a diverse range of people who will be hit by this.

There'll be people who had to have everything and mortgaged themselves to the hilt when they could have settled for less who will get ruined by a 25 basis point increase. I have to say I find it hard to feel sorry for those types.

There'll also be people who scrimped and saved to get a deposit and could only afford the absolute bare minimum available just to get in the market. They've risked it just to enter the market and try to own their own home and build equity. An interest rate rise might cripple them or ruin their ability to save. Anything goes wrong with their property they may have to extend their mortgage to make repairs or they may have to sell in a market where they may be a property fire sale due to potential bulk mortgage defaults which may see them sell for less than what they have bought for. That's heartbreaking for people who just wanted to own their own home and were prepared to start at the bottom just to get their foot in the door.

And think someone (rare) who saved 100k bought in thinking the RBA had their back and now as prices fall there goes their deposit.

And business and others who may have factored in these assumptions in their models.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

And think someone (rare) who saved 100k bought in thinking the RBA had their back and now as prices fall there goes their deposit.

And business and others who may have factored in these assumptions in their models.

Yep, may be some more government relief required in future. Like I said, ALP or LNP, I don't think either will be able to handle the shit fight coming.

 

[TillLindemann]

Yep, may be some more government relief required in future. Like I said, ALP or LNP, I don't think either will be able to handle the shit fight coming.

I think if I was in politics I'd almost be hoping to lose this election. Next few years will be messy .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I think if I was in politics I'd almost be hoping to lose this election. Next few years will be messy .

We need a few creative minds in government at the moment to negotiate this. Neither party has enough/any of them.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I think if I was in politics I'd almost be hoping to lose this election. Next few years will be messy .

Agree whoever wins it will be a crapshow, if Libs win it will be last term for sure and if Labor wins they will be a one term government. Kind of like the poison chalice

 

[jadtiger]

I think if I was in politics I'd almost be hoping to lose this election. Next few years will be messy .

The old chinese curse applies here "May you live in interesting times"

 

[BZN]

Im not liking whats happening with Soloman Islands and China....very concerning, again...whos next?
Fiji?
PNG?
$$$$

China in the Solomon Islands is probably the worst thing that can happen to Australia.
I had been thinking for a while now the reason why the head honcho of the Solomon Islands prefers China over Aust. is because he is running a corrupt Govt and doesnt want Us poking around and exposing that.
Then a couple pf days ago "China has been handing brown paper bags full of cash to Solomon Islands Govt reps"...maybe they learnt that from our Sydney Roosters eh?
It's perfectly plainly obvious that China is on the offensive currently.
In any interviews with Chinese Govt people atm it's perfectly plainly obvious how cocky they have become.