Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Spartan117 said:
Angus C is a very good player,

Hasn't been consistent in a largely consistent team.

Im not sure he is the Marquee that we need culturally at the Tigers.
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Angus was great up until last season, easy to see that Covid seemed to affect some more than others. Deserves another chance to play good footy in an improving team as a leader; much like Madge was able to have him doing at South Sydney.

These are the kinds of guys that improve optics, just hope they’re taking to measures to ensure that we in no way get played, also making a longterm offer that suits us for marquee players. Will basically be the first type of this kinda signing, as Api was predicted to leave Penrith and likely on around the same money, with Papali’i signing on for less than market value.

Crichton’s the forward leader to help Stef mature and grow into his role next year… many moving parts
 
hsvjones said:
Surely the Sharks must be close to max cap with the players they have... If this kid is as good as a lot say we might need to increase to get him or at least show him its a better chance at 1st grade here. Fingers crossed
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We should be able to outbid the Sharks and offer him NRL game time which the Sharks cannot do with Kennedy (and won't do while Kennedy and their centre are out).
 
Tiger4life43 said:
We have the same record as the Dogs. I’m not saying we should have thrown the kitchen sink at Nikora but the reality is that we’ve won two games this year and have a massive whole in the backrow for next year so we have to do something in terms of signings l.
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We have had a massive injury toll all season and have been the victim of a lot of disgraceful refereeing yet should have probably won 3 more games.i like our future far more than theirs as they will have to shed highly paid players yet again this year.A team full of players on overs is a long term time bomb
 
Overs for Cobbo at this stage looks like around 395-495k for the next 1-2 years due to his inexperience and youth. Would have no interest in moving to NSW I believe but may be worth a shot at forcing another teams hand to play moneyball and sign anyone decent missing out.

One guy I’d like us to seriously start courting is TC Robati or even Jordan Riki, hearing that one will definitely become available within the year.

Those juniors plus Penrith and Sharks are safety nets.
 
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Martin will not leave the panthers, all he is doing is trying to get extra out of them , them will up it and he will stay 100%
As for young dykes , if he is as good as they say it might be worth offering him a incentive bonus , if he plays 1st grade his money goes up .
 
TieDye said:
Agreed. No way. He’ll be a great player in the future though. See him in that worker mould which is highly consistent, 600k p.a would be an absolute maximum. Can I just ask?

Does anybody seriously fancy he’d actually leave?
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Some players are bound to leave that squad surely, their individual values are continuously rising. Unless they all wanna keep the band together on lesser salary that they can potentially earn elsewhere I think it's inevitable some of them will move on
 
sparci said:
Some players are bound to leave that squad surely, their individual values are continuously rising. Unless they all wanna keep the band together on lesser salary that they can potentially earn elsewhere I think it's inevitable some of them will move on
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Absolutely right but he’s not that guy! Crichton x2?
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
He plays a role in the team, and he plays it well, but certainly dont think he is going to get offers as high as 750k.

Remember when Matt Dufty asked his agent to shop him around for $850k/year and absolutely no one was interested?
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His attitude and will to win is what we require. He reminds me of Luke Lewis the way he plays and it was noticeable how the Cronulla Club changed with his recruitment.
 
Odessa said:
Sheen's did not panic he just wanted to complete with the bigger clubs and try to win the title and knew he could not compete with the TPA's he rolled the dice and should have won in 2010 and could have in 2011 good on him for having the stones to do it

And don't blame him for 2014 onwards because alot of contacts was renewed under Potter and the board went over Potters head head to sign massive contacts
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Isn't "rolling the dice" a form of panicking? Rolling the dice literally means to gamble on an outcome, and strictly speaking that is a 1/6 chance (i.e. low outcome). I've never heard of someone rolling the dice in a calm, measured, self-assured fashion.

It is my opinion that Sheens saw the writing on the wall after his long tenure - that despite some real success, Tigers had only made the finals 3 times, and after the premiership, the club (the board) became aggressive about maintaining regular success.

I think that after failing to win a comp in 2010-2011 (and I would agree there is a consensus even amongst non-Tigers fans that Tigers probably should have won another comp) that Sheens panicked.

Why do I think he panicked?
  • He aggressively moved to break up what became called "the boys club", though that playing group had made Tigers a short-lived strong premiership threat
  • He fatally agreed to transfer Andrew Fifita in order for Sharks to take on Bryce Gibbs, and Fifita quickly became one of the competition's premier players
  • He invested heavily in Adam Blair, hoping that a big-name Melbourne recruit would take the Tigers to another level, and failed to understand the pitfalls of attempting to transfer Storm players out of their system
Obviously in hindsight these things are easy to say when the outcomes are known, but I believe these points speak to a rapid and specific change in tactics, to try and save his coaching career. I call that panicking, but semantics aside, it was a rapid departure for Sheens.

Sheens is old and wily enough to know that the board would not tolerate Tigers failing to remain competitive in 2012. Otherwise, Sheens could have kept doing what he had been doing the past decade and Tigers would have continued to still be a periodic finals contender (about 50% of the time).

BTW not blaming Sheens for anything beyond 2012.
Anyhow the proof is in the pudding, is it not? Sheens gambled, Tigers crashed spectacularly in 2012 and Sheens was sacked. These are not the outcomes of a calm, measured coach who is building long-term plans, it is an outcome for someone who can smell the winds of change.
 
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