I'd say so....
Michael Maguire leaves club
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TieDye
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Pascoe had objectively failed in all areas and aspects of the business other than finance (this includes his well publicised promise to turn us into a destination club; nearly five years ago) and has a few diehard supporters.
His shortcomings were well documented but at present he’s not showing the knowledge required to successfully run a football club. Sheens may undermine my above point… at this stage though, the onus would be on you to prove he’s not liable or responsible in any way for performance. Can you do that?
Where's the Kimmorley thing coming from?
He's not even an assistant at the club is he?
Yeh hate to say it but that last game might be it. Not sure if it's the right call or not but can understand it. I don't want Green or Flanagan here though.
Not sure who else
Kelce68
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Firstly, I don't like Pascoe.
Secondly, financial is the primary success KPI of a business. End of story.
Thirdly, the onus isn't on me, I was simply asking for clarification to somebody else's statement that the 'front office aren't qualified'. I didn't make the assertion that they were, I was interested in how that conclusion was reached. I know it's very easy to argue that someone is making the counter argument, but I'm not, I'm interested in how or why people draw these conclusions.
Please don't make me defend Pascoe for much other than performance as a business venture, because I don't have much to go on.
He's also an asshat.
tony soprano
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If you don't like the joint take a break or buy your own footy club. Otherwise quit whinging
Terry T.Nuts
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No one would take him seriously, he was the most overrated halfback of all time. Blew Origin games, a poor man's Ricky Stuart. Leave him with the ladies.
Terry T.Nuts
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Calling the kettle black, nice.
Terry T.Nuts
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If Madge gets sacked I will gladly take a break as it shows this outfit is a complete and utter lost case and will continue in that vein for at least the next five years easy.
tony soprano
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It's not rocket science the board and ceo really have little to do with on field performance.
In fact post Grant Mayer the board have been stable and put onfield performance onus on the coach.
Unfortunately they've picked the wrong coach on numerous occasions and it's fact the club has struggled since letting sheens go. Should there be accountability for picking the wrong coach? Sure.
People are being wayyyyy too over emotional with sacking madge. It's not like the old days where he was never given chance. The time he's had there has been not been enough improvement. Full stop. There can be many other reasons he is not the man for the job too.
But quit being so over emotional babies about it. It's a cut throat business. Look at Barrette and John Morris. Sharks were actually doing good the time of his sacking. Did the world end? No.
Rumour floating around.
Gardiner won't get it, he'll cop the sack with Sheens.
Cayless isn't ready.
Won't get some one straight away, need a caretaker and our man Brett is the only other guy... unless it's Sheens or Feleti Mateo.
I can see that side of the coin but the guy knows footy.
Give him a chance, he couldn't do any worse.
Terry T.Nuts
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Some bozos love going through the same shit again and again.
Terry T.Nuts
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He is great for the ladies but should be nowhere near a first grade side.
Magpie_Magic
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There is some improvement the last few weeks despite injuries including through games and bad calls.
If it were me I would give Madge 6 games where we must win at least 4. Players are returning and Madge will have a chance to play "his" team.
Aside from him Flanagan is the only high profile coach available. For me I don't care about his scandals. I reckon plenty of teams are on these "juices". If you don't go Flanagan there is nobody right now worth appointing that's a better or higher profile guy.
If I could choose anyone I would go Payten.
A low profile coach would make things worse for us re recruiting.
And let's not forget how Walters turned Brisbane around from nowhere accepting that they get breaks from the officials.
If it were me I would give Madge 6 games where we must win at least 4. Players are returning and Madge will have a chance to play "his" team.
Aside from him Flanagan is the only high profile coach available. For me I don't care about his scandals. I reckon plenty of teams are on these "juices". If you don't go Flanagan there is nobody right now worth appointing that's a better or higher profile guy.
If I could choose anyone I would go Payten.
A low profile coach would make things worse for us re recruiting.
And let's not forget how Walters turned Brisbane around from nowhere accepting that they get breaks from the officials.
Todd Packer
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There's a simple solution.
Maintain Maguire as a figurehead for the rest of the season. He can do the motherhood speeches, cry for the journos after the game, and give his mind numbing address to the players before the game.
Sheens can do anything that involves actual thinking and coaching.
Problem solved.
Maintain Maguire as a figurehead for the rest of the season. He can do the motherhood speeches, cry for the journos after the game, and give his mind numbing address to the players before the game.
Sheens can do anything that involves actual thinking and coaching.
Problem solved.
Could - and has…
I keep reading the same dribble about sacking the coach,pointless this year...
Try to understand the hard task ahead of Madge to get this right,Clearys lousy recruits on huge money,the club a rabble,no depths and a heap of injuries to his main top 17 ..
Everyone says that all teams get injuries,open your eyes to the top sides,always someone ready to compete at NRL level when the main man gets injured and they do well,we havent the depth players that can fill in and do the same job as an NRL top 17 player can,either in the forwards or the backs,we have youth,yes,but will they develop enough to make an impact at that level?
Madge has had this team performing well under dire circumstances player wise,the Sat game just gone isnt Madges fault,they lack intestinal fortitude to hold pressure for 80 mins,therein lies the first problem.the second is top players coming back NOT fully fit to try and field a competative team,Hastings not right,Ken not right but did well,Brooks not right as his kicking proved on Sat...
If you judge a man on this roster because of poor performance then heaven help the next coach if our ROSTER doesnt come up to an NRL squad..
You can argue all you like because most on here want CHANGE and to get rid of the coach....bandaids ring a bell?....the SQUAD needs to be NRL standard for a coach to do well at NRL level,our core problem is what needs to be fixed and thats the squad....Spare me the "its Madges roster" it may well be,but they have been given every opportunity to excell at this level,if they cant move THEM on...classic example is Garner,some on here wanted him gone last year and said he was useless,this year still under Madge he performed really well when moved to the centres and his D is great..
So why cant others do their job...."Lack of ability for some".....
Im not a Madge purest,but I give a man an opportunity to prove himself without the hinderences Madge has had for 4 years...most on here even said that Madge won a premiership at Souths because he had quality players,but here he is useless because the roster is sub par....I rest my case...cheers guys but I had to say it as fairly as I could...
Try to understand the hard task ahead of Madge to get this right,Clearys lousy recruits on huge money,the club a rabble,no depths and a heap of injuries to his main top 17 ..
Everyone says that all teams get injuries,open your eyes to the top sides,always someone ready to compete at NRL level when the main man gets injured and they do well,we havent the depth players that can fill in and do the same job as an NRL top 17 player can,either in the forwards or the backs,we have youth,yes,but will they develop enough to make an impact at that level?
Madge has had this team performing well under dire circumstances player wise,the Sat game just gone isnt Madges fault,they lack intestinal fortitude to hold pressure for 80 mins,therein lies the first problem.the second is top players coming back NOT fully fit to try and field a competative team,Hastings not right,Ken not right but did well,Brooks not right as his kicking proved on Sat...
If you judge a man on this roster because of poor performance then heaven help the next coach if our ROSTER doesnt come up to an NRL squad..
You can argue all you like because most on here want CHANGE and to get rid of the coach....bandaids ring a bell?....the SQUAD needs to be NRL standard for a coach to do well at NRL level,our core problem is what needs to be fixed and thats the squad....Spare me the "its Madges roster" it may well be,but they have been given every opportunity to excell at this level,if they cant move THEM on...classic example is Garner,some on here wanted him gone last year and said he was useless,this year still under Madge he performed really well when moved to the centres and his D is great..
So why cant others do their job...."Lack of ability for some".....
Im not a Madge purest,but I give a man an opportunity to prove himself without the hinderences Madge has had for 4 years...most on here even said that Madge won a premiership at Souths because he had quality players,but here he is useless because the roster is sub par....I rest my case...cheers guys but I had to say it as fairly as I could...
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