Michael Maguire leaves club

[WT2K]

I cant believe the reactions to yesterdays decision.

Ive seen it all, handing in memberships, darkest day in our history blah fn blah.

If you are a supporter of the club first thing you do is wait and listen to why the decision was made and where they are headed.

Listening to Tim Sheens on multiple platforms the decision in his mind was the correct one.

For years we have all moaned about our players not delivering on their potential. Going to other clubs and shining. Buying players from other clubs who dont go to another level at this club.

im one of the few that maintain that we have always had the talent. Sure we ignored our pathways under a couple of coaches who made poor decisions but this club always produces talent.

Every season someone starts going on about the team you could make from all the players that have left the club.

A few months in the job and Tim Sheens has identified the reason for this club continuing to struggle.

DEVELOPMENT.

Maguire lost his job because he could not improve players and develop their game. We have seen Kelma hit the wall, Stefano level out, Simpkins under perform and many others that should have steadily improved go backwards.

Yesterday was a very important day in our history. We saw the light and made a very hard decision that needed to be made.

I look forward to our club returning to the days where we bring our juniors through and develop them into consistent and classy players. I trust the club to hire the right coach. They for the first time in this clubs history have everything in place to be successful. Yes its not a star studded team but as a franchise we now have the structure for success.

Hopefully when the dust settles all the sky is falling mob start to see the light and get back on board.

Great post.

 

[Needaname]

He said he sacked the coach because we're not getting results.
Now he's saying he doesn't expect results for a few years...

How did he expect results this year if he doesn't expect them next year?
- I didn't with the squad we have (I would say most didn't)
And I don't know anywhere near as much about footy as Tim.

Could the message be in the hidden text.
Regarding the dispute he had with Kent over Madge’s control of the roster.
All have been signed or re-signed by Madge.
Madge inherited a shstorm before starting and he doesn’t want the new coach to start on the back foot.
Is this an indication that Sheens isn’t happy with the roster Madge put together?
Can we expect a massive roster turn over from the new coach?
It took Cleary one season to turn over Goulds huge contracts and inject the youth pushing to get picked.
It took Fitzgibbon 6months to re-shape / harness the sharks roster.
It can only be that anyone free to talk to clubs in November May or may not be offered new contracts and the Tigers may be willing to push them out the door a season earlier.
There is a huge list in that regard.

 

[batboy]

Could the message be in the hidden text.
Regarding the dispute he had with Kent over Madge’s control of the roster.
All have been signed or re-signed by Madge.
Madge inherited a shstorm before starting and he doesn’t want the new coach to start on the back foot.
Is this an indication that Sheens isn’t happy with the roster Madge put together?
Can we expect a massive roster turn over from the new coach?
It took Cleary one season to turn over Goulds huge contracts and inject the youth pushing to get picked.
It took Fitzgibbon 6months to re-shape / harness the sharks roster.
It can only be that anyone free to talk to clubs in November May or may not be offered new contracts and the Tigers may be willing to push them out the door a season earlier.
There is a huge list in that regard.

Yeah mate - As I said, I get it....
In honesty, I can't imagine Madge here in 3 years either...

Any pushing out of players means we pay for them - We already have no money for anyone...
It's more the push for 24... I get that.
But that's what it was last year as well... We never had any money until this year.

I still don't see how a new coach comes and then there's instantly no expectations on him
- Yet he's in the exact position as the man that just got sacked for not meeting expectations.

If the club has pre-determined results based expectations - Why do they dissolve with the sacking of the coach?

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534311449358929920

 

[finnzo]

Not far off.

I believe a verbal agreement may have already been reached.

Is the candidate ciraldo?

 

[Terry T.Nuts]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534311449358929920

My gut feeling is he will leave but hey it is what it is.

 

[dazza65]

My gut feeling is he will leave but hey it is what it is.

I think it will depend a lot on where Maguire lands next year (if anywhere) and how JH views the club itself, Sheens, the new coach and new recruits (Api, Pap)

 

[BZN]

I hate comments like this . It’s such a self fulfilling circle jerk IMO . No disrespect.

Sheens looks old and worn out, already knows he’s made a huge mistake

Sheens made a HUGE mistake in treating Madge the cold and callous way he did and my respect for him has plummeted.

Madge apparently put Our Team through their normal training run and was then told he was no longer needed...go and clean your office out and goodbye.
How could any 'reasonable' person treat Madge like this after he has worked his butt off for Wests Tigers.

Sheens would obviously know what sort of psychological effect such a sudden departure would have on Madge after Sheens himself was sacked all those years ago. It would have to be similar to a death in the family, but it was decided to inflict this on Madge anyway.

Then to add to this...the official announcement from Wests Tigers to say that Madge had been 'terminated'...what sort of unfeeling morons run this shit show?
I reckon Madge would have shed blood sweat and tears in trying and get our mob to play like real men, but as a group they were just to frigging weak.
I'm feeling really pissed off and very sad for Madge.
If Our assistant coach leaves with Madge, I have a feeling Noddy is being groomed to take over next year as head coach and I'll be waiting with excitement not, to see how that turns out.
I was still wearing my Wests Tigers shirts and vests etc just last weekend with some pride.
I just feel totally embarrassed now.

 

[Terry T.Nuts]

I think it will depend a lot on where Maguire lands next year (if anywhere) and how JH views the club itself, Sheens, the new coach and new recruits (Api, Pap)

True, Hastings would actually be a great fit at the Warriors or Bulldogs, both need a decent half.

 

[BZN]

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Here’s old Dennis, @stryker 69 s favourite WT director.

I remember he had a number of hits in the Sydney indie scene back in the day

“ Chunder on me Angel”

“ Wheelie Bin of Love”

“ No officer it wasn’t me, it was my girl”

He saw Justin’s haircut and threads, liked the cut of his jib and made him CEO.

He will get the shock of his life, when he cleans up and finds out that his bad mushroom trip on the wests tigers board is actually real.

I think he should quit the board and take up a new role as a roadie.

I'm not sticking up for Dennis as I know nothing about him.
But have you blokes that are putting shit on him actually met him?
Do you know if he is a smart cookie or not?
Just because he has long hair etc doesnt necessarily mean he has no business talent does it?
I reckon the whole place is now a shit show.

 

[BZN]

Yep… invited back with open arms.

Another desperation move by our mob.
Yeh you sued the pants off us but please come back.
What a bunch of 🤡🤡🤡

 

[twentyforty]

So what does everyone think about benny elias, obviously he was the leak to buzz, probably having a few beers together right now.
Not someone the tiger's club can trust, straight to media.

I wouldn't call Elias a club power broker. Buzz said his source was a couple of power brokers and further he was getting nothing off Sheens.

 

[batboy]

I'm not sticking up for Dennis as I know nothing about him.
But have you blokes that are putting shit on him actually met him?
Do you know if he is a smart cookie or not?
Just because he has long hair etc doesnt necessarily mean he has no business talent does it?
I reckon the whole place is now a shit show.

Yeah mate, Met him plenty of times....
Also seen him screaming his guts out like a scolded cat
on a stage in the middle at Cambelltown Stadium for some unknown reason...
In front of our fans at a home game...
The club has never embarrassed me so much, A board member at a home game

The reaction from meeting him didn't surprise me from how he presents himself
(If that makes sense)

I also asked if anyone knows why he's making decisions for us - Again, I was informed of his failed Music Career...

 

[batboy]

I wouldn't call Elias a club power broker. Buzz said his source was a couple of power brokers and further he was getting nothing off Sheens.

Either way... He thinks he's relevant - And his mouth is 30 seconds in front of his Brain.
Webby said on SEN this morning that in his time in the game

No club has ever leaked like ours - The only consistent is Benny.

 

[PJ_]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534311449358929920

Whoever does his PR does a fantastic job

 

[PJ_]

If the guess work is correct and Ciraldo is rumoured to be coming onboard, I hope he cleans out the lower grades and brings them with him.
Time to rape Penrith like they did to us.

 

[twentyforty]

Sheens made a HUGE mistake in treating Madge the cold and callous way he did and my respect for him has plummeted.

Madge apparently put Our Team through their normal training run and was then told he was no longer needed...go and clean your office out and goodbye.
How could any 'reasonable' person treat Madge like this after he has worked his butt off for Wests Tigers.

Sheens would obviously know what sort of psychological effect such a sudden departure would have on Madge after Sheens himself was sacked all those years ago. It would have to be similar to a death in the family, but it was decided to inflict this on Madge anyway.

Then to add to this...the official announcement from Wests Tigers to say that Madge had been 'terminated'...what sort of unfeeling morons run this shit show?
I reckon Madge would have shed blood sweat and tears in trying and get our mob to play like real men, but as a group they were just to frigging weak.
I'm feeling really pissed off and very sad for Madge.
If Our assistant coach leaves with Madge, I have a feeling Noddy is being groomed to take over next year as head coach and I'll be waiting with excitement not, to see how that turns out.
I was still wearing my Wests Tigers shirts and vests etc just last weekend with some pride.
I just feel totally embarrassed now.

Mate, I think many supporters share your feelings of despair and disappointment. In trying to make sense of this, I'm of the view that the board sacked Maguire and Sheens was not in a position to defend Maguire because the board had the numbers they needed to refuse a contract extension. Madge has paid the price for what the board started a decade ago.

 

[BZN]

This decision has destined the club for another 3-5 years in the wilderness, instead of building on what we were developing. VERY BAD DECISION

Wow!!! If we're still in the wilderness for 5 years I'll be 80 and wetting my pants 😱every time I sneeze....and I sneeze a lot 🤣

 

[BZN]

Exactly - Last year he expected results this year - Now he's sacked the coach he doesn't expect results for another 3...

I'm no mathematician, But how's that work? We're still the same club with a large portion of the same players...

Exactly @batboy something stinks with Sheens expectations imo.

 

[BZN]

We should all remember how Maguire was removed from Souths after his premiership for the club.

Why?