Wests Tigers Coaches

Todd Payten would be my pick, has not been afraid to back himself and has the established ties with the club.
Amazing how well the Cows are going with a relatively unchanged team stock wise from last year.
Either Todd is a very good coach or Chad Townsend is the most under rated player in the league...
 
MAGPIES1963 said:
Thanks @batboy I try to be very positive. But I gotta admit Madge's sacking made me see red 😡. I've settled down now so hopefully my BP settles down as well 🤣 otherwise I mightn't be around to see Our next Premiership 👴🦽
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Hey Magpies, I think there might be a few of us on here that mightn't be around to see our next premiership.

Some of them mightn't be all that old at the moment either.
 
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AdelaideTiger said:
Todd Payten would be my pick, has not been afraid to back himself and has the established ties with the club.
Amazing how well the Cows are going with a relatively unchanged team stock wise from last year.
Either Todd is a very good coach or Chad Townsend is the most under rated player in the league...
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The Cowboys have a really good forward pack.
 
The Ciraldo bandwagon is pretty full right now.
Lots of us are pinning our hopes on him being able to lure 'Riff talent to us.
Let's say that none of their players want to come . . . for whatever reason.
Is Ciraldo the standout answer then ? Please do not use the word "development" in your answer . . .
Coz if we are pinning hopes to him maybe bringing players with him, that could end up ugly.
 
Lauren said:
I was actually just about to post on a a thread that has now since been deleted, it was in regards to WTs 2005 DNA and I was basically referring to the differences between this and the Taylor sacking.
(So please excuse the layout as some of it was already in response to another post.)
The flair or tactical nous/ability was still pretty evident when he was our coach.
We've never been a strong defensive team but I believe when coaches have tried to instill this into the team (and especially subsequent to losing Moses, Woods and Teddy) there was disproportionate effort placed into this area and we lost that intrinsic style.
Losing players who were suited to this (JAC, Simona are others), and thrived playing this type of footy, also made it hard to revert back to and we replaced them with outsiders - from different systems.
The neglect in the juniors meant it wasn't being filtered down either.

The game and rules are frequently changing and the current evolution of it, is why that 2005 team would've been perfect for the modern game. It was built for it. It's also probably why the club now recognises we've never really recruited or retained the players that were dynamic to this brand. (If we are claiming it's part of our identity).
If we still had the right type of players and were capable of playing this distinctive style of footy, there's no doubt we'd be very competitive in the NRL today.
Either way you look it, we've addressed the juniors and are attempting to implement this characteristic, so its a matter of time before it comes to fruition but in the meantime we need to be filling our first grade roster with players that have already shown to be highly competitive in the NRL competition. Or have the right coach that can bring them up to standard.

Its different to other sacking because its about sticking to and following through with a concise plan. I believe the club finally gets it, you need to bring changes forth or we'll be forever standing still and not developing.
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We have no DNA. The DNA Sheens instilled in us has been gone for a decade. Even when we were an average team back then, we were still feared cos we could put a score anybody. These days we’re about as feared as a squashed grape.
 
Red Rugby said:
I hate to be a fly in the ointment but does everyone the last time a coach was offered a 5 year contract? Anthony Siebold hasn't been sighted since the Broncos fiasco and he'd just come off a successful season at Souths. He was considered a 'can't miss'.
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I’m a fly in the ointment too, but I like my Siebs.

He got virtually the same Souths side Madge couldn’t handle - deep into the finals and playing great footy in less than a year.

Arrives in Brisbane and is given carriage of a spineless bunch of entitled bludgers who weren’t putting in and he’s lied to and stabbed in the back at every turn.

All the old two headed wombats couldn’t relate to his fresh thinking and young heart. His extended training in fitness, but in the form of playing, not just running up Sandhills carrying a prop on your back, holding the halfback.

Then the bitter twisted nutcases go after his family. Doesn’t get much lower.

He’s a proven post Madge specialist and we could do worse than zoom him in and pick his brains about his Madge de programming effort and anything he found useful in that regard.

Whether one was pro or anti Madge, we are where we are and Siebs may have some valuable insights for us in the immediate post Madge era.

Us fellowship of the Siebs, reaching quorum at 2 or 3 fans, we are a loyal bunch!
 
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GNR4LIFE said:
We have no DNA. The DNA Sheens instilled in us has been gone for a decade. Even when we were an average team back then, we were still feared cos we could put a score anybody. These days we’re about as feared as a squashed grape.
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That was kind of the actual point, the club is following a plan and has identified one of the biggest challenges to successfully achieving it.
 
trentrunciman said:
Sorry if this has been mentioned but did anyone notice the pause when sheenas was asked about Ciraldo on Fox? Like he had to stop and think carefully about what to respond.

Dunno mightn’t be anything
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Couldn't help but notice that and it would indicate (to me at least that) we either have him, are in the process of finalizing terms or he has flat out rejected us.

Either way it seemed to strike a nerve and the old fox had to think for a moment about his response.

Hard to believe that Madge was shown the door without something being in place, or at the very least someone targeted as a replacement, having said that we have let a number of players go with no apparent replacements in sight, so who knows what will happen next.
 
Lauren said:
I was actually just about to post on a a thread that has now since been deleted, it was in regards to WTs 2005 DNA and I was basically referring to the differences between this and the Taylor sacking.
(So please excuse the layout as some of it was already in response to another post.)
The flair or tactical nous/ability was still pretty evident when he was our coach.
We've never been a strong defensive team but I believe when coaches have tried to instill this into the team (and especially subsequent to losing Moses, Woods and Teddy) there was disproportionate effort placed into this area and we lost that intrinsic style.
Losing players who were suited to this (JAC, Simona are others), and thrived playing this type of footy, also made it hard to revert back to and we replaced them with outsiders - from different systems.
The neglect in the juniors meant it wasn't being filtered down either.

The game and rules are frequently changing and the current evolution of it, is why that 2005 team would've been perfect for the modern game. It was built for it. It's also probably why the club now recognises we've never really recruited or retained the players that were dynamic to this brand. (If we are claiming it's part of our identity).
If we still had the right type of players and were capable of playing this distinctive style of footy, there's no doubt we'd be very competitive in the NRL today.
Either way you look it, we've addressed the juniors and are attempting to implement this characteristic, so its a matter of time before it comes to fruition but in the meantime we need to be filling our first grade roster with players that have already shown to be highly competitive in the NRL competition. Or have the right coach that can bring them up to standard.

Its different to other sacking because its about sticking to and following through with a concise plan. I believe the club finally gets it, you need to bring changes forth or we'll be forever standing still and not developing.
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Interesting. Despite the rules changing we are still seeing the consistent, structured teams dominating. Penrith’s current squad resembles one very similar to what they had in 2002-2005 but yet at the tail end of that period the small mobile and flamboyant team got the edge in the comp. (This is despite being owned twice in 2005 by the then Panthers team)
 
Lauren said:
I was actually just about to post on a a thread that has now since been deleted, it was in regards to WTs 2005 DNA and I was basically referring to the differences between this and the Taylor sacking.
(So please excuse the layout as some of it was already in response to another post.)
The flair or tactical nous/ability was still pretty evident when he was our coach.
We've never been a strong defensive team but I believe when coaches have tried to instill this into the team (and especially subsequent to losing Moses, Woods and Teddy) there was disproportionate effort placed into this area and we lost that intrinsic style.
Losing players who were suited to this (JAC, Simona are others), and thrived playing this type of footy, also made it hard to revert back to and we replaced them with outsiders - from different systems.
The neglect in the juniors meant it wasn't being filtered down either.

The game and rules are frequently changing and the current evolution of it, is why that 2005 team would've been perfect for the modern game. It was built for it. It's also probably why the club now recognises we've never really recruited or retained the players that were dynamic to this brand. (If we are claiming it's part of our identity).
If we still had the right type of players and were capable of playing this distinctive style of footy, there's no doubt we'd be very competitive in the NRL today.
Either way you look it, we've addressed the juniors and are attempting to implement this characteristic, so its a matter of time before it comes to fruition but in the meantime we need to be filling our first grade roster with players that have already shown to be highly competitive in the NRL competition. Or have the right coach that can bring them up to standard.

Its different to other sacking because its about sticking to and following through with a concise plan. I believe the club finally gets it, you need to bring changes forth or we'll be forever standing still and not developing.
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It wasn't deleted just merged into the coaching thread..

You can have too many..




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Needaname said:
Interesting. Despite the rules changing we are still seeing the consistent, structured teams dominating. Penrith’s current squad resembles one very similar to what they had in 2002-2005 but yet at the tail end of that period the small mobile and flamboyant team got the edge in the comp. (This is despite being owned twice in 2005 by the then Panthers team)
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Yep those clubs are rarely (or never) behind the 8 ball and don't need to make too many adjustments as the lower clubs. They already have strong systems in place.

Thanks @Geo
 
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