Our ambition for the rest of the season and beyond?

Blood as many youngsters as possible, no point playing players who will be gone next year. We are getting smashed anyway give Dias a go, give them a go..that's what our ambition should be
 
Jolls said:
I think you are 100% correct. We clearly got it wrong otherwise we wouldn't be here. If they did do the planning it certainly wasn't well communicated and if they were doing their jobs right they would have reviewed and adjusted the plan along the way. they blames Cleary for the first couple of years but then dished up the same pile of poo afterwards. So there was certainly something wrong with the plan! Time to see what has worked, keep that, and plan again.

I sort of got Madge's plan - keep it simple and get the foundation right, but I think we can do better. Just because all the other teams are doing one thing doesn't mean we have to follow blindly along.

We need to pick what works for us too, clone that we can and then add what we want to make us different. Copying Penrith and Melbourne won't win us a comp; it will get us closer, but, until we (and others) work out the weakness to their patterns we will always be a step behind.

I think the key is not so much what happens on the ball, but what happens off it - both on the field and off it.
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To me the whole thing comes down to the faceless IE the board.
It's almost as if someone in power within the club wants us to fail.
It looks to me that the club really needs to hire a professional project manager to set achievable milestones and keep the rebuild on track.
If we make a plan that sets a 'realistic' milestone of competing in finals in five years, stick to it. But as in any project plan, identify, and factor in, perceived stumbling blocks (like losing major players to injury or suspension, or losing players to other teams), and don't throw out the whole plan when the stumbling blocks interfere with meeting your milestones.
In my opinion, that is what has just occured. Someone in power has ignored the plans timeline (if there was one) or ignored the identified stumbling blocks (if there were any) and has succumbed to fanbase pressure, which is a stumbling block in it's own right, and thrown out the whole plan so we can do it all again.
We have looked like amateur hour for the past ten years, and nothing has changed. Personally I am far less optimistic than some in this forum that anything will change because the people in power, that repeatedly seem to undermine whatever plan that's made, are still there.
Whatever foundation we start to build gets stymied when somebody calls in the excavators before the foundation is finished. And round and around we go.
 
NT_Tiger said:
To me the whole thing comes down to the faceless IE the board.
It's almost as if someone in power within the club wants us to fail.
It looks to me that the club really needs to hire a professional project manager to set achievable milestones and keep the rebuild on track.
If we make a plan that sets a 'realistic' milestone of competing in finals in five years, stick to it. But as in any project plan, identify, and factor in, perceived stumbling blocks (like losing major players to injury or suspension, or losing players to other teams), and don't throw out the whole plan when the stumbling blocks interfere with meeting your milestones.
In my opinion, that is what has just occured. Someone in power has ignored the plans timeline (if there was one) or ignored the identified stumbling blocks (if there were any) and has succumbed to fanbase pressure, which is a stumbling block in it's own right, and thrown out the whole plan so we can do it all again.
We have looked like amateur hour for the past ten years, and nothing has changed. Personally I am far less optimistic than some in this forum that anything will change because the people in power, that repeatedly seem to undermine whatever plan that's made, are still there.
Whatever foundation we start to build gets stymied when somebody calls in the excavators before the foundation is finished. And round and around we go.
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If only we had a person in a high executive position with that level of business acumen and the ability to use transferable skills to apply the similar metrics used within building the framework for the corporate structure and the the development of the Wests Tigers as a business and apply those similar metrics to a literal specific performance indicators of the football team and their progression.
But unfortunately our CEO doesn’t have the ability to understand what’s required on the field to be successful.
 
DeneHal1983 said:
Blood as many youngsters as possible, no point playing players who will be gone next year. We are getting smashed anyway give Dias a go, give them a go..that's what our ambition should be
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I thought Madge was doing that?
MOs of the magpies have nrl experience now.
 
twentyforty said:
I thought Madge was doing that?
MOs of the magpies have nrl experience now.
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More to come, it’s no coincidence I feel that we have the pathways coach as our current first grade interim coach. Let’s just say we’re unlikely to see anyone like a Tom Freebiarn debut over a Matamura for instance. *spelling*
 
Needaname said:
If only we had a person in a high executive position with that level of business acumen and the ability to use transferable skills to apply the similar metrics used within building the framework for the corporate structure and the the development of the Wests Tigers as a business and apply those similar metrics to a literal specific performance indicators of the football team and their progression.
But unfortunately our CEO doesn’t have the ability to understand what’s required on the field to be successful.
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I would like to see us go in a different direction. Business execs are about themselves usually - not too far behind the politicians. Perhaps we can find a WT supporter high up in the Military - someone who knows how to plan, someone who knows that no plan survives first contact - someone who knows how to make tough unemotional calls. Is there an ex General lurking out there? I know that the big Ozzie Cozzie is a union guy so he's out. Anyone got some contacts - maybe a copper, ambo or firey would also fit the bill!
 
Jolls said:
I would like to see us go in a different direction. Business execs are about themselves usually - not too far behind the politicians. Perhaps we can find a WT supporter high up in the Military - someone who knows how to plan, someone who knows that no plan survives first contact - someone who knows how to make tough unemotional calls. Is there an ex General lurking out there? I know that the big Ozzie Cozzie is a union guy so he's out. Anyone got some contacts - maybe a copper, ambo or firey would also fit the bill!
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Maybe Ant Middleton is a closet Tigers fan?
 
Recruit 2 or 3 top class forwards to add to api and Isaiah. Give fans something to look forward to . We can't wait for all these promising teenagers in Mathews and Flegg sides to graduate 2024/2025.
Also avoid spoon we've never had one
 
Jolls said:
He has a good pedigree - he is was an Airborne Sapper at 17 and served for about 12 years before he transferred to the Royal Marine Commandos. Sappers are as cool as a Bundy Bears Shit! Airborne ones even more so.😉

Ant are you out there on the forum somewhere? We need some assistance👍
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Legend eh
 
DeneHal1983 said:
Blood as many youngsters as possible, no point playing players who will be gone next year. We are getting smashed anyway give Dias a go, give them a go..that's what our ambition should beI c
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I completely agree the season is a write off but we still have to focus on winning games because no good players will want to sign with a basket case of a club.
 
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