Adam Doueihi #227

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Earl said:
There are a couple of reasons to retain Doueihi:-

1. He is a great runner of the footy with some skill and he may end up a quality edge backrower.
2. Have him as a stop gap measure at 6 until we can recruit or develop a 6.

If we are to persist with him there should be an honesty session which will probably result in him leaving anyway. You have to tell him you aren't performing in the halves and don't appear to have the ability plus your defense is a massive liability.

I can't see us getting a new 6 right now but your point is valid. This is where we need Shines and co to make the right decision. I know that the wrong decision is signing him up on a long term contract on good dollars.
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I remember when he came here from south’s, we were vaulting at his salary expectations. Bennet came out and slammed us saying he is a walk up start as fullback and we were trying to buckle and dime when we should just be getting talent.

We then signed him and it was clear he wasn’t fast enough for fullback.

He now wants to play in the halves and it pretty clear he wouldn’t be a wall up start for the majority of teams.

It’s fine to keep him in the squad to play where needed but it’s abundantly clear he doesn’t have that opinion on himself. ( I remember he said there was no way he would play in the middle when a journo asked him during the days of Jacko going there)

Tigers need to be honest, here is 300k a year for 2 years your a member of the squad and play where needed. Otherwise there is the door we appreciate a quick response and for you to handle the situation like a professional.
 
Earl said:
Who says he is a sook in a bad way. I mean getting upset over his performance to me is acceptable.

I think letting him go may be the best decision for us. We definitely shouldn't be making him a priority signing.

I'm getting more and more concerned though about Shines and co getting this team back on track.
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Getting upset over your own performance is one thing and commendable but if its over the position he wants to play in the side thats another thing. He is not a good rounded 6 fullstop. He needs to try and develop his game in the centres or backrow. Otherwise he is no use to us. We have him for the next 12 months no matter what he decides, unless we strike it lucky.
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
Let Douhie go and tell Brooks it is 500k take or leave with the long player discount that drops to around 300k or 350k on our salary cap.
Sign Hastings at worst he plays 7 if we can't find a 6
We should have with douhie gone and Brooks reduced salary 1.2 million to spend, go buy Dylan Brown or Moses or Munster
13. Hastings
7. Brooks
6. Brown
or
13. Hastings
7. Moses
6. Brooks
or
7. Hastings
6. Brooks
go find a 13
or
13. Hastings
7. Brooks
6. Munster
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$1.2 million won't even be close for Munster, big money for Moses would be Brooks revisited without the loyalty and determination.
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
how is it not
Douhie is 650k on our cap
Brooks is 1.1 million
reduce that to 500k
and get rid of douhie there is 1.1 million
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It was more the go get Moses and brown.

It’s not fantasy football in the way you can just say, ok guys your tigers now. Without needing them to agree.
 
Demps said:
It's great, in theory...

Brooks is just going to agree to reducing his income by 600k?

Who would agree to that !?

Fantasy football talk man.
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Yes and no man,
Surely they've front loaded someone at the top end?
They've been dropping players squad like lifeboats off the Titanic.
 
Bob said:
It was more the go get Moses and brown.

It’s not fantasy football in the way you can just say, ok guys your tigers now. Without needing them to agree.
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"Just send him to the Dolphins!"

Brooks, AD ... both contracted for 2023.
The dolphins would have to want them.
They'd have to agree to it.

Nothing is as straight forward as @Jedi_Tiger claims.
 
Bring back Olaf Prattl said:
Brooks should go to England, the Tigers are the only club willing to pay the inflated dollars his manager wants and he's not worth it, even if we had a superstar pack he just doesn't get what's required of a half back in the NRL, a very fit individual and not lacking in courage but as a game reader is poor, I don't think Hastings will stay if he has to guide Brooks and Doueihi around the park every game. Both are on big dollars and seemingly with no responsibility because they would never be dropped. Last night's fiasco would have happened even if we had our best 17 available, the Rorters outgunned us in almost every position and that's including those not available.
Next year we get to destroy the careers of 2 really good players because the club can't or won't give them decent back up.
Hastings is our best and he wouldn't run on in the top sides, we have 30 bench players and each week 13 of them have to run on.
At least Oliver Gildart didn't score
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There isn't a bloke in our squad at the moment that's not being overpaid - Bar maybe Pole....
To what level - None of us really know....

Either way, There's some real Bloodletting to happen yet...
You can ready yourself of that.
 
Demps said:
I cannot see Brooks agreeing to halving his salary...

Can you?
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Not here so much.....
He might take 600 to go to the Roosters.
Facts are we have to overpay to get talent, Doesn't matter who it is....

I love it when the media can bag us for overpaying said player
- Who's a local junior, never left the club, mid way through his career and in a high paid position.
And then bag us for not over paying to get a busted warhorse from another system.

The only constant - The Tigers have to overpay....
Been that way forever!!
 
batboy said:
Not here so much.....
He might take 600 to go to the Roosters.
Facts are we have to overpay to get talent, Doesn't matter who it is....

I love it when the media can bag us for overpaying said player
- Who's a local junior, never left the club, mid way through his career and in a high paid position.
And then bag us for not over paying to get a busted warhorse from another system.

The only constant - The Tigers have to overpay....
Been that way forever!!
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Yep, dammed if ya do....

Point still stands though, no one is going to agree to dropping their salary by more than 50% just because....

He has a contract for 2023 & so does Adam.
 
Demps said:
Yep, dammed if ya do....

Point still stands though, no one is going to agree to dropping their salary by more than 50% just because....

He has a contract for 2023 & so does Adam.
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For sure.....
My point stands also
If either have been pre paid, A new contract can be negotiated for next year....
More in line with market value.

You can put your own numbers on that, But going off opinions here.....
Should be able to sign both on minimum wage..
 
batboy said:
For sure.....
My point stands also
If either have been pre paid, A new contract can be negotiated for next year....
More in line with market value.

You can put your own numbers on that, But going off opinions here.....
Should be able to sign both on minimum wage..
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Good in theory but they have to be willing ?

We're in a bad state.
This is a very dark time for the Tigers.

I'm honestly not sure there's a light at the end of the tunnel....

Waiting for the juniours to maybe, possibly, work out.... 🤔 😅
 
Demps said:
Good in theory but they have to be willing ?

We're in a bad state.
This is a very dark time for the Tigers.

I'm honestly not sure there's a light at the end of the tunnel....

Waiting for the juniours to maybe, possibly, work out.... 🤔 😅
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Brooks has been paid, He isn't getting that money again....
Doueihi - You think he's getting 600+ to play 6 elsewhere?
- Not off this year he's not.

Especially when there Munster, Brown and Munster all off at the same time.
Works both ways... We can offer them something - They can knock us back, But then they have to get that other gig as well.....
Like I said - Write your own opinion on that...
They may well get another gig?
Who knows what other teams have coming through...

Remember there's the likes of Gamble, Taafe, Sharks and Dragons ressies halves not really getting a run atm either....
Do other teams rate our halves better than those type of blokes - And if so, By how much?
 
batboy said:
Brooks has been paid, He isn't getting that money again....
Doueihi - You think he's getting 600+ to play 6 elsewhere?
- Not off this year he's not.

Especially when there Munster, Brown and Munster all off at the same time.
Works both ways... We can offer them something - They can knock us back, But then they have to get that other gig as well.....
Like I said - Write your own opinion on that...
They may well get another gig?
Who knows what other teams have coming through...

Remember there's the likes of Gamble, Taafe, Sharks and Dragons ressies halves not really getting a run atm either....
Do other teams rate our halves better than those type of blokes - And if so, By how much?
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Making too much sense.

We can offer them a deal as you say, but is that going to strengthen us ?

We need to go to the market and start trying to strike deals immediately.

Stefano isn't living up to hype either.
We need a pack, desperately.
 
Demps said:
Making too much sense.

We can offer them a deal as you say, but is that going to strengthen us ?

We need to go to the market and start trying to strike deals immediately.

Stefano isn't living up to hype either.
We need a pack, desperately.
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I agree.....

As I've always said (Often overlooked) we've got the best halves we can get....
If we can get better ones, Sign me up....
That goes for all of them....

I reckon I can count on one hand the blokes that are in my top 30 next year.
 
batboy said:
I agree.....

As I've always said (Often overlooked) we've got the best halves we can get....
If we can get better ones, Sign me up....
That goes for all of them....

I reckon I can count on one hand the blokes that are in my top 30 next year.
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Pole
Seyfarth

🧡
 
Luke Brooks #1 Fan said:
Doueihi had a shocking game but let's not give up on him just yet. He's not a complete player. Lots of flaws in his game. Put him next to Hastings, Brooks, and a second rower who can make all of his tackles and he can shine.

Although I can't excuse his defence at the moment. His first contact is atrocious. He doesn't hit and stick, more like miss and let them stroll through.
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Lots of flaws is an understatement.

He prioritized his mouthguard over his job which sums him up for me. He ball hogs and his natural traits are him 1st. Not a team player and we saw that clearly last night.
 
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