Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Odessa said:
I don't think he will go back to the dragon's he was not happy when he left he has a house at Woolooware so could walk to shark park in around 10 minutes but before he left the dragons he use to get coffee in the morning at the same place I did and I asked him a few times about joining the Tiger's from the few chats I had with him I don't think it was out of the question

Very humble man
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Your shout then mate, make it happen!
 
Earl said:
That was all Madge. Sheens might have been here but he wasn't the one who signed them.

We should be clear on Sheens input so far:-

1. Sacked Madge.
2. Let Luc go early.
3. Loan out Nofo and Gildart.

--> These actions were significant contributing factors to us getting the spoon.

4. Sign himself and Benji as long term coaches.
5. Re-Sign To'a, Kepaoa, Joe O and Naden.
6. Re-signed some juniors and upgaded some juniors to development or other contracts.

--> Number 4 might work out for us. I think number 5 is actually pretty good. Number 6 is pretty good as well. These are though easier options compared to recruiting outside talent.

Overall Sheens to me has been a complete failure but it can all turn around next season.
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I don't think Luciano,gildart or nofa change us getting the spoon. Madge getting sacked mid season is the main reason but it was the difference between coming 12-15 or getting the spoon
 
InBenjiWeTrust said:
Correct, it becomes obvious that our administration hides its incompetence and mediocracy behind "we cannot do anything, we cannot behave like the Storm/Roosters/Panthers"???
If they cannot do anything they shall go into politics, and leave the administration of the club to the people that can!
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Should be called Wests pussies with this leadership crew
 
hsvjones said:
I am on board with the whole Sheen / Benji / Robbie coaching idea and hope it all works out.

But am I correct in saying the ONLY signing Sheen's has made is Naden ?? Papa and Api were done prior I believe.

With all this excitement around Sheen's / Benji and we are yet to sign a player and IMO is a massive concern.. I will sit back and trust the process but generally when a new coach is announced etc.. they makes signings pretty quickly as players want to be apart of the change. I thought Benji had some pull according to other players / commentators in the game.
So either they have a few lined up but are keeping it rather quite or we are praying we get lucky..
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There aren’t any real difference makers available. That’s the main problem. See how they go for 2024.
 
AdelaideTiger said:
Agree that not much is going to happen for '23, but Marshall will attract established players for '24.
What's in doubt is if he can actually coach them to win some games.
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I don't understand how/why Marshall will be able to attract players? I think any connections to players he may be able to call upon are massively overstated. More importantly players still have managers advising them and i doubt many would be encouraging their clients to go to wooden spoon club with an untried coach.
 
Telltails said:
If money is not a motivator there is very little else to attract players to WTs atm - as demonstrated by our lack of success recruiting and the possible trouble we are having holding on to one we jagged.
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Should aim for mid quality players build a stable base then try to Jag a marquee player pay alittle overs for mid quality 5/6 first with 70 plus games that can do the job and mite get lucky and produce another Teddy Moses Farah Marshall Fifita


Mid quality that's what Sheenius did last time to bring the kids up to grade Jason Moodie Pat Richards Scott Prince and a few of the old heads in the forwards stable players
 
The main thing before anything is we need to improve, show players looking for 2024 we are going forward, I think if we can get a clean bill of health and with api and paps we will move forward, hopefully our injury prone players can stay on the pitch, I think if Talau will slot straight back into centres, blore off the bench or starting backrow and with them 4 we are already looking infinitely better, if we could grab another forward this off season whether it be Frizell or Klemmer or both on decent deals we have a squad that can make finals, having api come in is going to improve us on his own, he’s a class 9 and we haven’t had one in forever, it’s one of the most important positions on the field, his deception creates space and puts us on the front foot, it’s doom and gloom at the moment obviously but I’m not completely pessimistic
 
Odessa said:
Should aim for mid quality players build a stable base then try to Jag a marquee player pay alittle overs for mid quality 5/6 first with 70 plus games that can do the job and mite get lucky and produce another Teddy Moses Farah Marshall Fifita


Mid quality that's what Sheenius did last time to bring the kids up to grade Jason Moodie Pat Richards Scott Prince and a few of the old heads in the forwards stable players
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So for a long time we were mediocre and now we are fully shit and the plan is to go back to mediocre. I’m with you 😂
 
BAGNF05 said:
So for a long time we were mediocre and now we are fully shit and the plan is to go back to mediocre. I’m with you 😂
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Continuing to roll over and lose good players like Moses, Matterson, Aloiai, Luc has dropped us down from mediocre to absolute trash.

Need to find a way to stop making everyone want to leave. Joffa re-signing was a good step in the right direction, hopefully it continues with Hastings.
 
Every top club has 2-3 top hookers. We have Api. Who are the others. Are they good enough?
Brown, Simo and Rua??

Post edit: disregard, what was I thinking 🤣
 
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Telltails said:
If money is not a motivator there is very little else to attract players to WTs atm - as demonstrated by our lack of success recruiting and the possible trouble we are having holding on to one we jagged.
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BAGNF05 said:
So for a long time we were mediocre and now we are fully shit and the plan is to go back to mediocre. I’m with you 😂
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The Tiger's can not buy there way out of it got to go mediocre and hope to grow two or three Superstars to mix with the mediocre players Melbourne have mediocre players mix with Superstars and the Superstars lift them up

Or buy 1 superstar and hope for the best with what we have
 
weststigerman said:
Continuing to roll over and lose good players like Moses, Matterson, Aloiai, Luc has dropped us down from mediocre to absolute trash.

Need to find a way to stop making everyone want to leave. Joffa re-signing was a good step in the right direction, hopefully it continues with Hastings.
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Agree they need to become a club people don't want to leave, but the players you've named went above and beyond to ensure their position at the club became quickly untenable.

Moses just plain sooked and tanked; Matterson had a breakout year and thought he was too good for the tigers; Aloiai chased the dollars and also acted like a child; Luciano was doing less than going through the motions.

All four of these guys conducted themselves with large amounts of unprofessionalism, immaturity and greed.

They were a cancer on the club.

Are you saying that if things were different they wouldn't have wanted to leave?

I do get that. But at the same time an employer/employee agreement is a two way street:

You pay someone to fulfil a role and they agree to do so for say 3 years at $x.

The employer is willing to pay for those services for 3 years but the employee doesn't like it any more so he gets to pretend he is doing his job (badly) or outright just say he's not working there any more?

I think it's too easy for another club to overtake an existing contract and that a hefty transfer fee should be involved to stop these unmitigated moves.

Can understand wanting to go back to NZ, Aust, Qld, wherever they're from, but these guys simply break contracts because they want more money or a bigger club whilst taking no responsibility that they are one of the reasons the club isn't winning.
 
gregjm87 said:
I don't understand how/why Marshall will be able to attract players? I think any connections to players he may be able to call upon are massively overstated. More importantly players still have managers advising them and i doubt many would be encouraging their clients to go to wooden spoon club with an untried coach.
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I think it's possibly wishful thinking. I hope it's true too, but have no way of knowing either way.

Your post reminds me that Braith Anasta is Munster's agent; don't like the tigers' chances! 🤪
 
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