Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Winston Churchill]

I've never been into politics but I think you are using dumb simplistic arguments so it's probably not worth engaging with you.

Here is my main thought - a lot of people today argue extremist viewpoints and it's stupid.

I'll give a good example. I consider myself fairly well educated on climate change. I think it's a real issue and potentially apocalyptic. The kicker is I don't think it's that bad just yet and we are actually managing it a lot better than how the issue is being framed. There is a lot of crap science about how any extreme weather event is climate change.

You need to discuss issues with me rationally and factually.

Carefactor earlier tried to make out abortion wasn't banned from republicans and it took me about 1 minute to prove that claim stupid.

Let's try to discuss issues better.

I'll add I'm going to go and watch TV soon and then go to bed but I don't want to engage with stupidity.

The old lefty disingenuous playbook, claim you want a conversation only to run away after saying nothing thinking they just said something akin to the Dalai Lama. Bravo young man, bravo.

 

[earl]

On the other hand, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and his minions, including ones that he pardoned for other crimes (one even similarly with Nixon) were directly involved in trying to actually stop the democratic process, including with militia.

This is what I don't get. How can you support someone like this. What do you think Adolf Hitler did ? It was exactly the same.

 

[earl]

Who defends this kid?

They call them doctors.

 

[Carefactor]

The picture is. It’s the same tactic antiabortionists use to shame women going into abortion clinics.

But is it extreme to put a timeframe on when you can have an abortion ?
When 1000's of women have premature babies they are lovely cared for in a neo hum crib.. 7 states those babies can be aborted... they are induced to give birth and instead of being transferred to life preserving treatment... THEY ARE LEFT TO DIE. Yes just left untreated to die..
So Stop the nonsense about Republicians being extreme.

 

[Yossarian]

All I am doing is putting a face to cute catch phrase.......
"Her body her choice"..........here is another 24 week old (from conception), this time out of the womb. Who defends this kid?

Redirect Notice

I’m confused as to what your position is. At what point do you not support a woman’s right to seek a termination?

 

[Winston Churchill]

I don’t know you. You’ve been here a month supposedly. If you’re a regen of a booted ex-member let us all know. But yeah I’m not playing your game. If you want to have a conversation sure, let’s do that.

You can go ahead and answer the question or continue to pretend you want to converse

 

[earl]

The old lefty disingenuous playbook, claim you want a conversation only to run away after saying nothing thinking they just said something akin to the Dalai Lama. Bravo young man, bravo.

You are doing it again. Did you read my earlier posts. I'm no lefty. It's stupid. I also called myself ignorant and stupid. Did you read my position on climate change ? Leftys probably hate my guts.

You can't seriously be responding to me.

This is what kills me.

You do you though. Whatever dude.

 

[CloudyGlock]

I just answered this. It becomes a medical issue which it should be. In Australia the same rules apply right ?

No its not legal in Australia at the stage of that photo, but it is legal in 33 of the 50 US States.

Should I be able to kill this kid if I want to?

 

[Yossarian]

But is it extreme to put a timeframe on when you can have an abortion ?
When 1000's of women have premature babies they are lovely cared for in a neo hum crib.. 7 states those babies can be aborted... they are induced to give birth and instead of being transferred to life preserving treatment... THEY ARE LEFT TO DIE. Yes just left untreated to die..
So Stop the nonsense about Republicians being extreme.

That’s their choice though. That’s the point. But let’s be honest, the legislation changes that have been made or proposed aren’t to stop the situations you’re talking about, they’re to outlaw ALL abortions.

Do you support a termination under any circumstances?

 

[CloudyGlock]

it does mate. Go and get a doctor to provide an abortion at 33 weeks. It's not going to be easy. It's a medical issue.

well for me it would be pert near impossible due to the lack of a uterus.

If I was female in 33 of the 50 states, it would be easy

 

[Winston Churchill]

Basically irrelevant, as it is really a mute point, because his opponent conceded the election the following morning

Performative at most, mainly aimed at gerrymandering.

On the other hand, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and his minions, including ones that he pardoned for other crimes (one even similarly with Nixon) were directly involved in trying to actually stop the democratic process, including with militia.

So what you are really saying is you have no answers for your side denying elections. Got it.

Should I go ahead now and post the 200 videos from YouTube of Democrats denying elections and clips of Hillary denying it for years afterwards or are we good just to leave your exposure as is?

 

[Yossarian]

You can go ahead and answer the question or continue to pretend you want to converse

It was a dumb question. In doesn’t need answering. How about you be honest. Are you a new member or a returning one?

 

[Winston Churchill]

It's a bit frustrating the ignorance and the strong opinions of some people. I'm ignorant and strongly opionated but in my case I'm right.

Lots more adjectives we could all think of there.

 

[Carefactor]

You literally asked "Why" sky news is pathetic

If you don't like the truth and cannot see that sky news here, just like his fox news network in the US, with it's similar night-time presentation, is nothing more than a propaganda arm of Murdoch to create hate and divide, then nobody can help until you stop.

It is the same for anyone who goes down that right wing rabbit hole, and to a lesser extent, the far left one. They soon start mixing paedophilia with sexualty, education, vaccination and the like.

Mate , your just rambling and none of it actually addresses any topic raised here
Move on from the poli speak and add something .

 

[CloudyGlock]

They call them doctors.

Actually Earl, in 33 of the 50 states, doctors are the one killing the kids at that stage if the woman asks them to. You seem to think that is OK and nothing to do with the government. you do you.

In Australia, the reason babies at that stage of developemnt arent routinely killed is due to the laws, set by parliaments, not doctors. Are you starting to get it now?

 

[Winston Churchill]

It was a dumb question. In doesn’t need answering. How about you be honest. Are you a new member or a returning one?

Can I see your papers? You seem to be projecting

 

[Tim Sheens]

The killing of fully formed babies under the previous Roe v Wade decision debate is basically just yet another furphy.

When during pregnancy do most abortions occur?​

The vast majority of abortions – around nine-in-ten – occur during the first trimester of a pregnancy. In 2019, 93% of abortions occurred during the first trimester – that is, at or before 13 weeks of gestation, according to the CDC. An additional 6% occurred between 14 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, and 1% were performed at 21 weeks or more of gestation. These CDC figures include data from 42 states and New York City (but not the rest of New York).

 

[earl]

In Australia, the reason babies at that stage of developemnt arent routinely killed is due to the laws, set by parliaments, not doctors. Are you starting to get it now?

I'm cool with the laws in Australia.

 

[Yossarian]

Can I see your papers? You seem to be projecting

I think you’ve answered the question. Why not be honest with us?

 

[earl]

The killing of fully formed babies under the previous Roe v Wade decision debate is basically just yet another furphy.

When during pregnancy do most abortions occur?​

The vast majority of abortions – around nine-in-ten – occur during the first trimester of a pregnancy. In 2019, 93% of abortions occurred during the first trimester – that is, at or before 13 weeks of gestation, according to the CDC. An additional 6% occurred between 14 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, and 1% were performed at 21 weeks or more of gestation. These CDC figures include data from 42 states and New York City (but not the rest of New York).

Good info. Facts matter.