Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Lestronge]

And what about the 9 previous seasons with the imp where he's practically a mute on the field, apparently thinks the oppositions shins are where the ball is meant to go, gives away 7 tackle sets with his garbage short kicking game(since it's inception). How about not showing a modicum of leadership at any stage of the game, especially in clutch moments with the game on the line. Or how about showing little to no long passing over the course of his career? Or how about a mediocre short passing game where his inside man loses the ball because a) he's thrown a bullet pass less than 2 metres away or b) hasn't communicated to his inside man?

We have had to endure that garbage for nearly a decade now from Brooks. And you want to knit pick at Hastings who played half the season with an injury and had us looking like a organised team when healthy? You, Sheens and the rest of the bootlicker clan need to wake up.

Haha 😂
I watched Hastings do exactly the same thing every set . and half the nrl , but it’s definitely a brooks weakness .
What is leadership ? Yelling at your teammates ? Is it also not chasing down the line break from the opposite side of the field . Is it not crunching a rampaging back tower because your help defence is picking daisies inside ? Is it not chasing down other peoples breaks , and being there to support ? If it’s being a d and alienating your teammates on the reg . Then ok . Bear in mind the current Aus halfback / backup can’t win a chook raffle without his fullback . So his leadership sux as well I guess .
The cutout ball doesn’t work in 2022 . The looping ball over the top to an edge attack running onto it , seems to have the most effect .
The short ball is truely an issue . I’m not debating that . But I’d say it’s also one of the only attacking weapons we had last year as well .

But it doesn’t matter what I think . It only matters what the nrl as a collective think and they think he’s a 1 mil halfback .
But no wests tigers forum hive mind disagrees … let’s listen to them ….

And what about the 9 previous seasons with the imp where he's practically a mute on the field, apparently thinks the oppositions shins are where the ball is meant to go, gives away 7 tackle sets with his garbage short kicking game(since it's inception). How about not showing a modicum of leadership at any stage of the game, especially in clutch moments with the game on the line. Or how about showing little to no long passing over the course of his career? Or how about a mediocre short passing game where his inside man loses the ball because a) he's thrown a bullet pass less than 2 metres away or b) hasn't communicated to his inside man?

We have had to endure that garbage for nearly a decade now from Brooks. And you want to knit pick at Hastings who played half the season with an injury and had us looking like a organised team when healthy? You, Sheens and the rest of the bootlicker clan need to wake up

 

[tony soprano]

What ever Tim Sheens is, he's not an amateur. You might disagree with his decisions but the bloke has as much professional pedigree as anyone alive in rugby league.

But but but people are commenting on Facebook that the wests tigers great Jackson Hastings is the best player in the word....

 

[jirskyr]

Newcastle's forum is over the moon they might be getting Hastings over Brooks.. one post even saying that if the deal goes through they'd feel sorry for us.. geez..even other forums are giving it to us..

Care factor = zero

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

As in Nu Brown?

Going to Dogs mate.

As in Nathan Brown or Ice wasnt he wanting to move to the middle? Providing we sign another edge backrower could be on.

 

[TigerSJ]

One issue that greatly changes the player recruitment/retention landscape is this proposed cap increase. It explains a few things, like the way the Dogs have approached the market and the asking prices of some players. It will enable clubs to hang on to players that they couldn’t have afforded previously eg Moses and Brown, or it will assist other clubs to enter the market for elite players increasing competition.
All of a sudden the market opens up and teams like the Roosters for example become options for guys like Moses.
Either way the cap increase is probably not a good result for us.

 

[hammertime]

If this is our approach. I'm onboard. I can see the logic

With Brooks, correlation doesn't equal causation. I don't think he's been the issue with our squad. He aligns with the Tiger infusion that Sheens and benji are forming and could be a big lure to bring mitch Moses back. Especially tempting with those prices that doueigh might be pushing....

Hastings is surplus to the squad if we can get Bateman at a good price. It's always better for team harmony to have a 13 who wants to be a 13 and is a better teacher for the kids coming through.

If we can snare Bateman and Klemmer, but lose Hastings. Our team will have a pretty good balance. We've already got Laurie to slot into 6 if one goes down (stains to FB) and will smith if warranted

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Yous all talk shit about brooks 24/7
The bloke hasn’t had a decent team around him since he started
Get over it, your opinion isn’t going to change anything

Apologies Luke 😉

 

[bathursttiger1]

Brooks must of agree to extend otherwise we are mad letting Hastings walk and the possibility Brooks leave after next year anyway. Anyway I will trust the process (no choice really 🤣 )
My Gut feeling is Sheen's has something lined up and might surprise us all

Knowing Sheens Alex Twal is our new 7.

 

[TrueTiger]

Haha 😂
I watched Hastings do exactly the same thing every set . and half the nrl , but it’s definitely a brooks weakness .
What is leadership ? Yelling at your teammates ? Is it also not chasing down the line break from the opposite side of the field . Is it not crunching a rampaging back tower because your help defence is picking daisies inside ? Is it not chasing down other peoples breaks , and being there to support ? If it’s being a dickhead and alienating your teammates on the reg . Then ok . Bear in mind the current Aus halfback / backup can’t win a chook raffle without his fullback . So his leadership sux as well I guess .
The cutout ball doesn’t work in 2022 . The looping ball over the top to an edge attack running onto it , seems to have the most effect .
The short ball is truely an issue . I’m not debating that . But I’d say it’s also one of the only attacking weapons we had last year as well .

But it doesn’t matter what I think . It only matters what the nrl as a collective think and they think he’s a 1 mil halfback .
But no wests tigers forum hive mind disagrees … let’s listen to them ….

Yes why dont you listen to us here on the forum....we have endured his football skills for 10 years,supported him,paid our membership and now its time to get over him ...
You have been here from TODAY....where have you been to defend him in the last 10 years..
Living in his mums basement no doubt...

 

[Batmans Parents]

What ever Tim Sheens is, he's not an amateur. You might disagree with his decisions but the bloke has as much professional pedigree as anyone alive in rugby league.

You can have all the pedigree you want but the fact remains that he has not achieved any sort of success in over 10 years in RL, was sacked from this club and another with poor roster decisions being one of the many reason at BOTH clubs.

So lets not pretend that Sheens is some master administrator or coach these days. I respect what he has done for both Canberra and us but you can't keep living in the past.

 

[tony soprano]

The problem with Madge. He was set in his ways and couldn't change with the game. Made come across as a nice bloke but the fact is the squad and results went backwards under him. The senior players are a fault too.

Since I've been following the club there's only been two periods of time where the squad resembled are group that gave one ounce of care the 2005 crew and 2010 crew to this day the players still reference the bond they had at that time.

Sadly that been missing the past ten years.

 

[Lestronge]

Yeh rite, some of us are just over the fact we continue with the same bloke who has failed to produce for the club for 10 years.

It's called being real and I guarantee if Brooks was offered same money and longer contract at Knights he would have rode off into the sunset.

He ain't a 900k plus player and at this point unless Sheens can somehow fix him I can't see anything changing.

None of you are being real !! You’re in a vacuum consumed by your own negative thoughts .
Being real is accepting there’s a shortage of nrl halves . There’s no brett kimmorley waiting around in Newcastle reserve grade in 2022.
Brooks has speed and skill , and a good not great long kicking game , and a good short passing game . He can create for his outside men with his speed .
He definitely lacks confidence and game management at times and goes into his shell .
That’s reality . The whole reality . The nrl whether it’s tigers , knights , cowboys, warriors raiders etc have decided the negatives are far outweighed by the positives . That’s the reality . Kick and scream all you want . None of you live in reality . You can repeat yourselves over and over and over again on these threads it’s not going to change it . It’s embarrassing to read constantly to be honest .

 

[Demps]

If this is our approach. I'm onboard. I can see the logic

With Brooks, correlation doesn't equal causation. I don't think he's been the issue with our squad. He aligns with the Tiger infusion that Sheens and benji are forming and could be a big lure to bring mitch Moses back. Especially tempting with those prices that doueigh might be pushing....

Hastings is surplus to the squad if we can get Bateman at a good price. It's always better for team harmony to have a 13 who wants to be a 13 and is a better teacher for the kids coming through.

If we can snare Bateman and Klemmer, but lose Hastings. Our team will have a pretty good balance. We've already got Laurie to slot into 6 if one goes down (stains to FB) and will smith if warranted

There's two sides to the coin eh.

It makes sense... and doesn't at the same time.
I guess it depends on the results once it's all said and done.

Hastings - he was good this year but clearly the brains trust don't see a future for him with us with the plans moving forward.

Brooks - hasn't been good any years (except arguably 2018 or whenever his Dally M Half-back year was) but the brains trust see value in him (like many before them.)

I guess we gotta strap in and see how this plays out.

 

[Camel2281]

Haha! none of that is true . The confirmation bias on this forums hive mind is out of control. No wonder there’s been a mass exodus .
It’s been widely reported newy we’re going to take the full freight of brooks contract next year . So I don’t know what you’re talking about .
Good luck with the hive mind , it’s doing wonders for your critical thinking .

They offered $600k for Brooks.

 

[Lestronge]

Yes why dont you listen to us here on the forum....we have endured his football skills for 10 years,supported him,paid our membership and now its time to get over him ...
You have been here from TODAY....where have you been to defend him in the last 10 years..
Living in his mums basement no doubt...

Lol I think you’ll find this isn’t my fist day on the forum mate . Despite what the login says .
I have defended him the last 10 years . Well since 2016 I think . Then I deleted my account . I had a fair bit of cred too . But despite all that . My opinion is just as valid as anyone’s even if it was my first day . Which it isn’t .
It’s a bit sad to be gate keeping that to be honest .

 

[Demps]

None of you are being real !! You’re in a vacuum consumed by your own negative thoughts .
Being real is accepting there’s a shortage of nrl halves . There’s no brett kimmorley waiting around in Newcastle reserve grade in 2022.
Brooks has speed and skill , and a good not great long kicking game , and a good short passing game . He can create for his outside men with his speed .
He definitely lacks confidence and game management at times and goes into his shell .
That’s reality . The whole reality . The nrl whether it’s tigers , knights , cowboys, warriors raiders etc have decided the negatives are far outweighed by the positives . That’s the reality . Kick and scream all you want . None of you live in reality . You can repeat yourselves over and over and over again on these threads it’s not going to change it . It’s embarrassing to read constantly to be honest .

Well said.

He's good, not great & he never will be great.

Unlucky for the Tigers because this is who current coaches and many before have put their faith in.

 

[ConePuncher]

punt hastings doueihi and brooks

 

[jirskyr]

But but but people are commenting on Facebook that the wests tigers great Jackson Hastings is the best player in the word....

I don't think that's it.

I think some people are very upset with Luke Brooks and are thus upset that Tigers would consider letting Hastings go rather than Brooks. It's an anti-Brooks thing rather than a pro-Hastings thing.

Anyone who does think Hastings is a good halfback - well Brooks only had #7 on his back 7 times in 2022 and Hastings had it 11 times. So Hastings was our primary halfback the first year we ever won the wooden spoon. That's not to say Hastings can't be a good half in the future, it is to say we played him there and we were terrible.

Therefore the idea of someone suggesting that Newcastle are proving us to be amateurs - I find that laughable. The Knights who are allegedly desperate to get their mitts on either of the two preferred halfbacks of the wooden spooners (doesn't matter which one). Only Newcastle fans could possibly be happy with that, to pitch so low.

Personally I am not fussed if either Hastings or Brooks are let go. We came last in 2022 - it can only be a rebuild in 2023. If Sheens has his mind made up about certain players, so be it.

Personally I also believe Sheens sees Hastings as a ball-playing lock (this has been reported in the media enough) and I am guessing Hastings is not on board with that, that Hastings sees himself as a halfback. I think Hastings was swarmed too often in 2022 once oppositions realised how often he touched the footy in the halves, but Brooks still did most of the kicking, so it was all very predictable.

Bugger-all assists too: Hastings 7 try assists, 4 LB assists in 16 appearances. 0 tries, 10 goals. Brooks was 10 try assists, 12 LB assists, 2 tries, 13 goals in 17 appearances. So if Brooks is abject rubbish, Hastings' measurable output was arguably worse in 2022.

So I still think it's a long-term anti-Brooks thing.