Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Magpie_Magic]

Sadly many here comment on the things they don‘t understand, so they just repeat the latest Pravda’s (read their ABC/Guardian/SMH) or twitter’s proclamations.
However, I believe there is a minority that really understand their own positions, as issues are complex and hard to simply put it in a broad baskets.
For instance how could the left position be abortion, AGW, LGBTQ, anti-nuclear, anti-water transfer, pro coerced vaccination, anti mining, these have nothing to do with social pro workers, and are often against pro workers interest!
That is why, perhaps 95%, are confused and classify themselves as progressive left while in reality they argue against the workers rights and working conditions!

The left sadly abandoned the worker, unionist, the average guy years ago.

The pursuit of globalization, high rates of immigration, foreign ownership and a high terminal rate of unemployment gives the worker little hope of real empowerment or franchise in the land where they live.
They prefer to be their patrons rather than giving them any real hope while they promote agenda which is contra to their interest.

They prefer ideology to real results.

For the record I voted ALP last election and have done so occaisonly.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Yeah, but Biden won't be running again. Even though it would be funny to see Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon beaten for a second time, by a man in his 80's who was already somewhat struggling with mind/memory issues the first time around.

Hard to see the democrats holding power next election with the recession coming their way against Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon or anyone else.

If Biden finds the direct war that his pushing to the brink for on top of the proxy one he set up they have bucklies.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

With regards The Don.

He probably commands 40 to 45 percent of rhe electorate but the most commited, fanatical amongst Americans.

They are also the most patriotic and make up the majority of rhe military and law enforcement.

These groups will fight for their country while the others maybe wouldn't.

These groups in all nations of the west have been disenfranchised and pushed to the extremities in their own countries

Ignore them at your peril.

If you want less extreme so called divisive politics the legimate concerns of these people must listened to.

Otherwise, it will get worse.

Selective cancel culture will lead to ruin.

 

[Winston Churchill]

Your first claim is false or misleading. Hobbs did nothing beyond her elected role which had zero impact on the results.

Second point, so what? It's not compulsory to debate your opponent.

Thirdly it was 50.7 to 49.3 right? Selected? By the electorate? Yes.

I don't know why it's so hard to accept she lost.

Another lefty that as usual has no idea what they are talking about because the Guardian and ABC hasn't mentioned it, hush hush, 24hr news cycle, move onto the next thing, 3 second attention span, did you hear the latest thing about the Kardashians?

So no need to do your own research and educate oneself.

Lets bring some facts into this....

But first lets play a game, This is the part where the lefties will either,
a. Run away
b. Ad hom' - "Conspiracy Theory far right nut jobs"
c. Whataboutism.
d. Orange man bad, insurrectionist, meh democracy REEEEEEEE
e. All of the above

We all know the answer.

"Hobbs did nothing beyond her elected role which had zero impact on the results."
Hobbs’ office is directly tasked with canvassing and certifying the results that each county submits, in other parts of the world this would be called a Banana republic and the US (if not in their $$ interest) would call out. Hobbs is the Sec of State and previous GOP and DEMs SOS have called for her to recuse herself because it looks very very very very very bad.

Calls Grow for Katie Hobbs to Not Oversee Arizona Elections

As secretary of state, Hobbs is overseeing the election while running for governor. Kari Lake may contest the results

time.com

"I don't know why it's so hard to accept she lost."
Third world nations can have their elections counted and called same day as the vote. Amazing how GOP states could do it, Florida with 8 million votes counted them within 5 hours. Amazing how 90% of the Dem states couldn't (we know it takes time to cure ballots until you get the results you want). Arizona mysteriously took over a week to count 100K votes which were predicted to drop 68% for Lake instead dropped 53% for the person certifying just enough of those ballots to win the election. Whether you want to go down the conspiracy fact/theory or not, nobody, left or right can deny that looks very very extremely 1000% sus and lends zero credibility to Maricopa Counties / Dems efforts to claim everything was for sure 100% legit. Even blind Freddy can see that's as dodgy as it gets, but then again, Blind Freddy isn't a lefty, so he's honest.

 

[Winston Churchill]

You know who you're conversing with here, right?

Self educated free thinker or one of the sheep? Let me guess what you are.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Another lefty that as usual has no idea what they are talking about because the Guardian and ABC hasn't mentioned it, hush hush, 24hr news cycle, move onto the next thing, 3 second attention span, did you hear the latest thing about the Kardashians?

So no need to do your own research and educate oneself.

Lets bring some facts into this....

But first lets play a game, This is the part where the lefties will either,
a. Run away
b. Ad hom' - "Conspiracy Theory far right nut jobs"
c. Whataboutism.
d. Orange man bad, insurrectionist, meh democracy REEEEEEEE
e. All of the above

We all know the answer.

"Hobbs did nothing beyond her elected role which had zero impact on the results."
Hobbs’ office is directly tasked with canvassing and certifying the results that each county submits, in other parts of the world this would be called a Banana republic and the US (if not in their $$ interest) would call out. Hobbs is the Sec of State and previous GOP and DEMs SOS have called for her to recuse herself because it looks very very very very very bad.

Calls Grow for Katie Hobbs to Not Oversee Arizona Elections

As secretary of state, Hobbs is overseeing the election while running for governor. Kari Lake may contest the results

time.com

"I don't know why it's so hard to accept she lost."
Third world nations can have their elections counted and called same day as the vote. Amazing how GOP states could do it, Florida with 8 million votes counted them within 5 hours. Amazing how 90% of the Dem states couldn't (we know it takes time to cure ballots until you get the results you want). Arizona mysteriously took over a week to count 100K votes which were predicted to drop 68% for Lake instead dropped 53% for the person certifying just enough of those ballots to win the election. Whether you want to go down the conspiracy fact/theory or not, nobody, left or right can deny that looks very very extremely 1000% sus and lends zero credibility to Maricopa Counties / Dems efforts to claim everything was for sure 100% legit. Even blind Freddy can see that's as dodgy as it gets, but then again, Blind Freddy isn't a lefty, so he's honest.

if Aunty and the Guardian don't say it or print it, it didn't happen ....

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Self educated free thinker or one of the sheep? Let me guess what you are.

Self education isn't always quality education.

You can have a healthy distrust of government without having to buy into every fringe theory around.

 

[Curly_Tiger]

This is just ridiculous, they can’t even commit to the bullshit, does anyone buy this rubbish? Albo is dirty he hasn’t had a tap on the shoulder from Justin to pair up on one of these gems 🤡

The 🤡 show continues
You are watching a movie
The Block is more real than this BS, wake up people

 

[Tim Sheens]

This is getting beyond ridiculous.

Kari Lake lost her election run and that's it.

Every single vote counted was looked upon by scrutineers of her own party, in probably the most overseen tallying across the nation.

Remember that Arizona even allowed those idiots to do a recount of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's loss at the last election. It carried on for months, found absolutely nothing of substance, yet we have people here carrying on two bloody years later.

Take your rubbish to Truth Social.

 

[earl]

The 🤡 show continues
You are watching a movie
The Block is more real than this BS, wake up people

This would be hilarious if a country wasn't being invaded with their people being killed and made to live under war like conditions.

Unfortunately Ukraine is being invaded and their people killed.

That makes your comments disgraceful.

Wake up to yourself.

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Nothing to see here

 

[TrueTiger]

This would be hilarious if a country wasn't being invaded with their people being killed and made to live under war like conditions.

Unfortunately Ukraine is being invaded and their people killed.

That makes your comments disgraceful.

Wake up to yourself.

Earl I just want to say that you have your opinion as do others and I respect it nobody really knows what the truth is bar those that think MSM is the only fact giving honest reviews,,,
I have also sourced that the annexed parts of Ukrain are culturally 99% Russian people who have been raped.beaten and killed by the Ukrainian Azov Nazi Battalion...thats why Putin invaded the place because he is protecting his own people,before you tell me he is murdering Ukrainian people,they are being killed by the same Nazis as the Russian people are...Its the most corrupt country in the world,thats why the Clintons,Obamas,Bidens and Kerry have such an interest in the place...Money laundering by FTX which has now been found out...dont bag me for my opinion Earl,I do my research and dont follow any main stream media that promote lies and agendas that they get paid for..I am a well educated business person who can form an opinion without following along with people who may not be as well educated and follow what they think they are told to do...once again Earl I respect your input and it would be a boring place if we couldnt converse in a civil manner,we may all differ in opinions but we are all human beings made in the image of God,he created us equal with our own unique personalities...

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Earl I just want to say that you have your opinion as do others and I respect it nobody really knows what the truth is bar those that think MSM is the only fact giving honest reviews,,,
I have also sourced that the annexed parts of Ukrain are culturally 99% Russian people who have been raped.beaten and killed by the Ukrainian Azov Nazi Battalion...thats why Putin invaded the place because he is protecting his own people,before you tell me he is murdering Ukrainian people,they are being killed by the same Nazis as the Russian people are...Its the most corrupt country in the world,thats why the Clintons,Obamas,Bidens and Kerry have such an interest in the place...Money laundering by FTX which has now been found out...dont bag me for my opinion Earl,I do my research and dont follow any main stream media that promote lies and agendas that they get paid for..I am a well educated business person who can form an opinion without following along with people who may not be as well educated and follow what they think they are told to do...once again Earl I respect your input and it would be a boring place if we couldnt converse in a civil manner,we may all differ in opinions but we are all human beings made in the image of God,he created us equal with our own unique personalities...

Spot on TT

 

[TrueTiger]

Its only rubbis

This is getting beyond ridiculous.

Kari Lake lost her election run and that's it.

Every single vote counted was looked upon by scrutineers of her own party, in probably the most overseen tallying across the nation.

Remember that Arizona even allowed those idiots to do a recount of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's loss at the last election. It carried on for months, found absolutely nothing of substance, yet we have people here carrying on two bloody years later.

Take your rubbish to Truth Social.

This is getting beyond ridiculous.

Kari Lake lost her election run and that's it.

Every single vote counted was looked upon by scrutineers of her own party, in probably the most overseen tallying across the nation.

Remember that Arizona even allowed those idiots to do a recount of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's loss at the last election. It carried on for months, found absolutely nothing of substance, yet we have people here carrying on two bloody years later.

Take your rubbish to Truth Social.

This is only rubbish in your opinion Tim Sheens or FG,once again if someone has a differing opinion or has done their own research but it doesnt agree with your opinion then you go straight on the defensive and tell them to take their rubbish to Truth Social...
Apparently it is Trumps media,I dont go on it...
Rubbish in your opinion,but could be fact in others opinions...
People are still allowed to form their own opinions which ever way they side..
civil conversations make for good topics when looked at from all sides of the arguments,not just one side who thinks they are right and the rest are rubbish....

 

[Winston Churchill]

Self education isn't always quality education.

You can have a healthy distrust of government without having to buy into every fringe theory around.

I wish you were saying that when the left were practicing onanism over the biggest conspiracy theory of all time. #Russiagate.

 

[Winston Churchill]

This is getting beyond ridiculous.

Kari Lake lost her election run and that's it.

Every single vote counted was looked upon by scrutineers of her own party, in probably the most overseen tallying across the nation.

Remember that Arizona even allowed those idiots to do a recount of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's loss at the last election. It carried on for months, found absolutely nothing of substance, yet we have people here carrying on two bloody years later.

Take your rubbish to Truth Social.

Twitter is now a free and open platform taken away from the children on the left. Most rational people are now on twitter after Musks continual clean out of the trash.

And now where truth can be told instead of censored. Great day for Freedom, welcome back Mr President.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1594131768298315777

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[Winston Churchill]

Nothing to see here

This one is my favourite. Will it be Ben Stiller or Sean Penn to play Zelenskyy in the midday Hallmark movie?

 

[Curly_Tiger]

CAA plays a big role in this culture creation process
Gotta dig deep to see though

 

[Curly_Tiger]

.... and yes it is CAA

 

[Winston Churchill]

This is getting beyond ridiculous.

Kari Lake lost her election run and that's it.

Every single vote counted was looked upon by scrutineers of her own party, in probably the most overseen tallying across the nation.

Remember that Arizona even allowed those idiots to do a recount of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's loss at the last election. It carried on for months, found absolutely nothing of substance, yet we have people here carrying on two bloody years later.

Take your rubbish to Truth Social.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1594138026925756416

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