Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Tucker]

Any reasonable person.

define reasonable

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Sounds like cancellation.

Scary stuff.

 

[Tucker]

Sounds like cancellation

Yep. ANY reasonable person can decide to close free speech down?
That is 100% cancel culture.
I dont like what you are saying, therefore I will have it and you removed.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Yep. ANY reasonable person can decide to close free speech down?
That is 100% cancel culture.

Maybe some from the left believe perhaps only left wing academics should vote.

They know it......till they change their mind.


But it's for the good of mankind right.

 

[Tucker]

Maybe some from the left believe perhaps only left wing academics should vote.

They know it......till they change their mind.


But it's for the good of mankind right.

They certainly believe that as evidenced by the severe disdain they carry for the other side.

 

[Tim Sheens]

define reasonable

A good starting point is anyone that doesn't spew out hate speech.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Scary stuff.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Do you guys realise that the right are censoring education and availability of library books, which is definitely cancel culture?

 

[Tucker]

A good starting point is anyone that doesn't spew out hate speech.

Yes but there is a lot of confusion surrounding the definition of hate speech.
"lets round up all the blacks and hang them" is hate speech.
"lets bash all the homos" is hate speech.
"Im sick of these Black Lives Matter protestors burning down our neighbourhood whenever they have a protest march" is not hate speech even though it is always labelled as such.

 

[Tucker]

Do you guys realise that the right are censoring education and availability of library books, which is definitely cancel culture?

Are you referring to the dragqueen stuff?
Are you also stating only the right are doing this?

 

[Winston Churchill]

Or one could bypass selected media and its narratives, and simply have taken notice of Andrew Wilkie MP who told our own government it was BS back in the day.

I really struggle to understand how anyone can be cheering on allowing of hate speech on any platform.

"That damn hate speech I don't like, it should be censored and only my beliefs be allowed" - The ultra far left

 

[Winston Churchill]

Any reasonable person.

I'm not a biologist, I'm hoping you are so you can please define what a 'person' is? We don't want to offend the petals out there with such hate speech by labeling what a 'person' is incorrectly.

That's literally how ridiculous the left wing hate speech ideology is. Anything on the fly is offence and declared hate speech. The left recently have used, math, daylight savings time and milk as example of racism and white supremacy. Should we ban the company OAK for blatant hate speech? According to the ultra far left we should. The lefts ability to sink to newer and newer depths by the day is just fascinating at this point and I'm sure in centuries to come will be studied how an entire segment of society suffered from severe brain fade.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Are you referring to the dragqueen stuff?
Are you also stating only the right are doing this?

No and no, but I don't see education on the former being a problem, just a fact of biology and accepted by reasonable society as just that, especially the youngsters not poisoned by their parents, which I see at my local school. Particularly so where I am travelling right now, where I have come across many in less than a week.

I also have no problem with men that simply wear what is considered as women's clothing, or vice versa. It is just how they are. Paedophiles or predators and protection from them are separate matters.

To your earlier post above it, I agree on that, though I do consider statements such as Trump's "good people on both sides" as condoning hate and it's speech. Again, I think reasonable people see it exactly as that.

 

[Winston Churchill]

Or one could bypass selected media and its narratives, and simply have taken notice of Andrew Wilkie MP who told our own government it was BS back in the day.

I really struggle to understand how anyone can be cheering on allowing of hate speech on any platform.

Couldn't agree more, you're usually way off the mark but on this one you are correct. Far left outlets like CNN, MSDNC, ABC, BBC, The Guardian, New York Times etc etc should all be treated as the lefty activists and weekend trash gossip columns that they are. Its not like they add any value as 'news' with their obvious biased narratives and agenda pushing propaganda. The legacy media has become a joke. They are days behind real news happening when compared to social media in real time. Reuters published an article regarding Musk and Tim Cook having a blow up as breaking news........................48hrs after it happened and 12hrs after Cook and Musk met to talk about their issues. Cant half see why entertainment outlets like CNN have lost 90% of its viewership. Just like the foreshadowing of the 'dodos' that watch and read these networks, only a matter of time before they become extinct.

 

[Winston Churchill]

I also have no problem with men that simply wear what is considered as women's clothing, or vice versa. It is just how they are. Paedophiles or predators and protection from them are separate matters.

To your earlier post above it, I agree on that, though I do consider statements such as Trump's "good people on both sides" as condoning hate and it's speech. Again, I think reasonable people see it exactly as that.

With the entire internet at the tip of their fingers, Imagine after 6 years having such narrow hate filled vision of 'Orange man bad' that one has never bothered to read the full quote or ever look at the video to see how they have been lied to by their favourite media outlets and what's even worse, are willfully and blissfully ignorant to even care to find out the truth. Next you'll be saying something absurd like Trump said to drink bleach.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a beautiful thing to watch.

 

[Tim Sheens]

With the entire internet at the tip of their fingers, Imagine after 6 years having such narrow hate filled vision of 'Orange man bad' that one has never bothered to read the full quote or ever look at the video to see how they have been lied to by their favourite media outlets and what's even worse, are willfully and blissfully ignorant to even care to find out the truth. Next you'll be saying something absurd like Trump said to drink bleach.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a beautiful thing to watch.

You can refer to him as "Orange man bad" as many times as you like, yet I don't see others writing similar such often, if at all, and for a long time.

Hopefully the courts deal with him more appropriately than the Senate did, even though a half dozen or more of his own party voted with decency there the second time around.

The same goes for Hunter, Jared and any others.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Actually, your "Orange man bad" is a lot [This word has been automatically removed]ing worse than bad.

Having literally tried to take control of a democracy as a dictator, even describing him as [This word has been automatically removed]ing terrible isn't an adequate description.

It's not a left or right thing, simply delusional to think otherwise.

 

[jadtiger]

You can refer to him as "Orange man bad" as many times as you like, yet I don't see others writing similar such often, if at all, and for a long time.

Hopefully the courts deal with him more appropriately than the Senate did, even though a half dozen or more of his own party voted with decency there the second time around.

The same goes for Hunter, Jared and any others.

The only people i have seen who use the "orange man bad" vernacular to describe Trump are people who seem to be on the far right wing of politics.I can only assume that they call him that so they can try to engender a degree of empathy for him.
I have always opposed extreme political views on both sides as it only leads to the persecution of people who don't agree with the ruling clique.

 

[Tucker]

To your earlier post above it, I agree on that, though I do consider statements such as Trump's "good people on both sides" as condoning hate and it's speech. Again, I think reasonable people see it exactly as that.

So you dont think its possible for there to exist good people on the right?

 

[earl]

So you dont think its possible for there to exist good people on the right?

When you talk about the right I assume you are talking about the delusional people who make up stuff like cancel culture.

I wouldn't consider them good people. I'd consider them delusional.

Plenty of people on the right are good people.

We need different categories now though. The middle right like the Teal independents for instance are cool. Smaller government, better management, taking care of the environment and pro-immigration.

The delusional right who are into all of these made up fantasies like cancel culture etc shouldn't really be considered middle right.