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Just popped in Winston and read your post.
The US are just one of many countries who spend so much on defence spending whilst a lot of their people are homeless, out of work and broke.....go figure.
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The US are just one of many countries who spend so much on defence spending whilst a lot of their people are homeless, out of work and broke.....go figure.
crazycat
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I find it Hilarious that the same people who shout:
Dan Andrews is a tyrant.
Preselected Campbell Newman in Queensland.
Yes the Lib Dems, who were whinging about Covid restrictions wanted "Ban Bikkie Tshirts" to represent them.
Honestly, this is a bigger joke the Siebold taking over Haslier. People got arrested for wearing "sons of Anarchy" t-shirts. ... Right...
Anyway it did not make the news much. People really at the end of the day get it. We had to stop covid else people die. I know one family that has lost their dad and Grandad to Covid. No one is providing for their mortgage payments, nor food on their table.
No surprise that Daniel Andrews was re-elected. Instead of hearing a nuanced opinion like "hey why were businessmen allowed to travel but immediate relatives not allowed to see their dying" we see Radical right nonsense in "Gestapo tactics and Fweedum!". The radical right still don't get how they push for their own goal, were a society, your freedom effects my freedom and viruses LOVE freedom.
Sorry guys Viruses don't respect your version of Fweedum. The voters don't either when people are silly enough to pre-select Campbell "Ban T-shirts" Newman as their head candidate. But hey we know why, he is on Fox news and Rupert likes him. ... Fweedum to obey your masters I guess.
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Just a friendly observation re Russia and Anti-Nazism.
We see Nazi's as the people who killed the Jews. We know this, we see the concentration camps and get taught this in history, etc etc.
Nazi's though believe in Racial superiority. The Slavic people (of Russia, Ukraine and other states) were regarded as subhuman, as were the jews, Gypses and other races*
A lesser known fact is that Stalin too rounded up the Jews in Gulags and persecuted them as well. Naturally that is NOT taught in Russian history, along with the Holocaust. Russians never learned about it
Because the Nazi's killed lots of Russians and yes were brutal to civilians... in Russia to be a Nazi you are Anti-Russian. Not Anti-Jew.
This is how Zelenskii is regarded by Russians as being a Nazi. The perspective from Russia is totally different. When Russians say they are hunting Nazi's in Ukraine, they mean something totally different to what the west understands of Nazi's.
*Unsure on the Irish how Nazi's regarded them. The American KKK regarded the Irish as subhuman just above the Jews, yet an inferior race.
We see Nazi's as the people who killed the Jews. We know this, we see the concentration camps and get taught this in history, etc etc.
Nazi's though believe in Racial superiority. The Slavic people (of Russia, Ukraine and other states) were regarded as subhuman, as were the jews, Gypses and other races*
A lesser known fact is that Stalin too rounded up the Jews in Gulags and persecuted them as well. Naturally that is NOT taught in Russian history, along with the Holocaust. Russians never learned about it
Because the Nazi's killed lots of Russians and yes were brutal to civilians... in Russia to be a Nazi you are Anti-Russian. Not Anti-Jew.
This is how Zelenskii is regarded by Russians as being a Nazi. The perspective from Russia is totally different. When Russians say they are hunting Nazi's in Ukraine, they mean something totally different to what the west understands of Nazi's.
*Unsure on the Irish how Nazi's regarded them. The American KKK regarded the Irish as subhuman just above the Jews, yet an inferior race.
Winston Churchill
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Biggest load of garbage I've read since formerguest last posted.
"This is how Zelenskii is regarded by Russians as being a Nazi."
Its to do with literal NAZIs (Azov battalion) in the Ukrainian national guard.
"in Russia to be a Nazi you are Anti-Russian. Not Anti-Jew."
Stop drinking the coolaid kid
You've told us what the WEST and what Russians think NAZIs are, I wonder what the Ukrainians think NAZIS are?
"The AZOV battalion is a neo-NAZi far right group.....they're hyper nationalistic and they're also anti-sematic and they're also racist" - Kimberly St. Julian-Varnon - Soviet Historian
"When Putin says he wants to de-nazify the country, he's focusing on the Azov Battalion and some of these far right groups" - Kimberly St. Julian-Varnon - Soviet Historian
Sounds like the WEST definition of a run of the mill NAZI to me.
You have to go woke and drink from the liberal medias golden chalice to ignore the real world NAZIs in Ukraine though.
Curb.............stomped
Winston Churchill
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Remember when being left wing just meant you were for free speech, were anti war and were against forcing extremist ideology on people, especially children? Meet current year.
Tucker
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T-shirts?
What the hell are you dribbling on about?
crazycat
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Campbell Newman was the Premiere of Queensland who banned "t-shirts" with "bikie logos".
Newman urges states to adopt bikie laws - 9News
Other states should follow Queensland's lead and introduce tough anti-bikie laws, the premier says, after a...
www.9news.com.au
Grandad's were being arrested for wearing "son's of Anarchy" or "Rose Tattoo" T-shirts.
Campbell Newman was then dumped and voted out.
He was then nominated by various groups to protest for "freedom" against Covid restrictions.
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No threat, bans T-shirts.
Worldwide pandemic, protests isolation. Gets nominated to fight for Fweedums!
It's called PURE HYPOCRISY. (probably news in NSW and other states).
Tucker
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First of all, bikies are coward scum so I am fine he targetted them.Campbell Newman was the Premiere of Queensland who banned "t-shirts" with "bikie logos".
Newman urges states to adopt bikie laws - 9News
Other states should follow Queensland's lead and introduce tough anti-bikie laws, the premier says, after a...
Grandad's were being arrested for wearing "son's of Anarchy" or "Rose Tattoo" T-shirts.
Campbell Newman was then dumped and voted out.
He was then nominated by various groups to protest for "freedom" against Covid restrictions.
...
No threat, bans T-shirts.
Worldwide pandemic, protests isolation. Gets nominated to fight for Fweedums!
It's called PURE HYPOCRISY. (probably news in NSW and other states).
Secondly, what makes you think I liked/supported him in general otherwise?
crazycat
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To the second, no not calling you out at all. Many Anti-vaxers and covid deniers were backing him in QLD which was Idiotic. Completely Brain dead. I have never seen people played better, it was like rats begging for a pied piper.
"First of all, bikies are coward scum so I am fine he targetted them."
Don't ever lecture or talk to anyone about Freedom while you hold that View.
I now call you a Bikie because you deny Covid or hate Dan Andrews or like AC/DC. Congratulations you can be targetted because as you say you are scum?... See how this works.
Or maybe you are wearing a Bikie T-shirt like this one:
NRL Retro & Heritage Jerseys
Step back in time and celebrate your club with official NRL retro & heritage jerseys.
www.nrlshop.com
A bikie somewhere wore this...
Winston Churchill
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UnhingedTo the second, no not calling you out at all. Many Anti-vaxers and covid deniers were backing him in QLD which was Idiotic. Completely Brain dead. I have never seen people played better, it was like rats begging for a pied piper.
"First of all, bikies are coward scum so I am fine he targetted them."
Don't ever lecture or talk to anyone about Freedom while you hold that View.
I now call you a Bikie because you deny Covid or hate Dan Andrews or like AC/DC. Congratulations you can be targetted because as you say you are scum?... See how this works.
Or maybe you are wearing a Bikie T-shirt like this one:
NRL Retro & Heritage Jerseys
Step back in time and celebrate your club with official NRL retro & heritage jerseys.
A bikie somewhere wore this...
Winston Churchill
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In your own article you posted it states.Campbell Newman was the Premiere of Queensland who banned "t-shirts" with "bikie logos".
Newman urges states to adopt bikie laws - 9News
Other states should follow Queensland's lead and introduce tough anti-bikie laws, the premier says, after a...
Grandad's were being arrested for wearing "son's of Anarchy" or "Rose Tattoo" T-shirts.
Campbell Newman was then dumped and voted out.
He was then nominated by various groups to protest for "freedom" against Covid restrictions.
...
No threat, bans T-shirts.
Worldwide pandemic, protests isolation. Gets nominated to fight for Fweedums!
It's called PURE HYPOCRISY. (probably news in NSW and other states).
"The [High] court did not accept the argument that the laws were too harsh, were constitutionally invalid, and breached notions of equal justice by restricting the association rights of motorcycle gang members."
"Campbell Newman was the Premiere of Queensland who banned "t-shirts" with "bikie logos".
The High court of Australia in 2014 saw no issue with laws to reign in the notorious crimes of bikies and agreed with Newman.
Just curious, what are your thoughts on a German wearing a Swastika in Berlin, should be legal or illegal?
Courts today on the other hand are throwing out 'plandemic' fines by the dump truck load and there are plenty and plenty of cases being taken up with state supreme courts and the high court for years to come with what was implemented unconstitutionally and against the UN Charter of Human rights during the china virus. Time will tell on that one, talk about jumping the gun.
crazycat
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Sorry, The high court rules on what's Legal. Not what is right.
People still seem highly confused by this. It is legal to let a kid starve on the street, it is not right.
Also, this is NOT reigning in crimes of bikies. This is "YOU WILL NOT WEAR THOSE T-Shirts". Which is exactly why QLD kicked Newman to the Curb. They will not be treated like a year 8 high school class and told their t-shirt doesn't fit the state uniform.
It was Childish, petty, 100% media stunting law that did NOTHING to stop bikie crime. Useless, useless useless.
Exactly why it was a total JOKE! Hey Protect our freedoms, elect Campbell Newman the guy who stops you from wearing the T-shirt you want. One term premiere who was more full of himself then Jeff Kennett. Yea, T-shirt banning guy will protect your freedoms.
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"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing-grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!”
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Winston Churchill
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Sorry, The high court rules on what's Legal. Not what is right.
And opinions are like buttholes as the saying goes. Shall we dive down the rabbit hole of whom shall be the arbiter determining what's morally right? I'm presuming its whatever you think is right is therefore right, am I right?
You're argument seems to be as muddled as your writing prose. Are you advocating for the government over reach of the lockdowns as it suits your political ideology and in turn dictates like a 't-shirt ban' at the whim of whose in power or are you arguing for "fweedums"? You seem to have your foot in both camps and are afraid you cant convince yourself which side to jump to.
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Who are you talking to Winston?
What time is it there?
Hey I read your war and piece novel in the bath but fell asleep 🤣🤣
Just joking, it was a great read, are U a journo?
Winston Churchill
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Who are you talking to Winston?
To anyone in earshot, I don't discriminate
What time is it there?
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Hey I read your war and piece novel in the bath but fell asleep 🤣🤣
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are U a journo?
I've edited and have been published in a number of journals. Mostly history and psychology.
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Winston your an Aussie working in England. Why have you got a nick as Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill
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My parents had a whacky sense of humour, middle name is 'Clementine'
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