Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

crazycat said:
Back to Noggin's point though. We took 3 seasons to get rid of Madge.

Honestly that is fine, kinda.
We had a less then competitive roster and Madge's worst year was 2022. (by far). Yet he had to be cut in 2022 (Sheens, why May? Madge should have taken the heat and the blows, why put Noddy through that).

Easts/Cronulla/Dogs and many other teams would have cut Madge sooner. We recognised what he was dealt and gave him 2021...

Brooks I count 2 wins out of 17 games. Brooks is the halfback. 4/16 is a lot better then 2/17 particularly when mr "I want NR7" demands halfback.

It's not all down to Brooks, if anyone is responsible it's the entire teams defence, we just leaked too many points. The front row needed to step up and it stepped back.

Yet if the choice was Brooks vs Hastings, Luke you can head north.

Looking forward, whoever is the pommy Sheens recruits from britain can get whatever Stab at NR7 if they want that. Brooks has done nothing in 2022 to keep the spot.
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Pretty clear to see Brooks looked a lot better playing at 6.
Hopefully we snag another 7 and he heads to the 6 spot again as he sure isn’t a halfback.
 
Anyone know the figures behind the Bateman deal, only aware of the transfer fee which I believe is outside of the cap

Assuming cause it’s 4 years the $ per year might not be as much - happy to be paying him anywhere in the 550-650k mark
 
I wrote this before and no one responded. It's ok, I didn't expect everyone to be interest everyone but I wonder if anyone has any information on this.......
I know the NRL has a history of failed English backs, our own Gildart being the latest, but this Welsby guy looks different. When you watch the highlights video, you see outstanding talent and with his combination of speed, toughness and passing ability, you have to think he'd really transition well. This is definitely a guy we should go hard for but how realistic a chance are we to sign him? I've heard there would be an enormous transfer fee and that St. Helens are not keen to release him. Thoughts?
 
stevied said:
I wrote this before and no one responded. It's ok, I didn't expect everyone to be interest everyone but I wonder if anyone has any information on this.......
I know the NRL has a history of failed English backs, our own Gildart being the latest, but this Welsby guy looks different. When you watch the highlights video, you see outstanding talent and with his combination of speed, toughness and passing ability, you have to think he'd really transition well. This is definitely a guy we should go hard for but how realistic a chance are we to sign him? I've heard there would be an enormous transfer fee and that St. Helens are not keen to release him. Thoughts?
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He has big wraps on him. Personally I would wait 12 months to see how Staines turns out first, only because Welsby will eat up a lot more cap. Maybe Staines really steps up given a sustained period at 1 for much less money.
 
teddy23 said:
Anyone know the figures behind the Bateman deal, only aware of the transfer fee which I believe is outside of the cap

Assuming cause it’s 4 years the $ per year might not be as much - happy to be paying him anywhere in the 550-650k mark
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Not sure but I'd reckon 650k area. Doubt Tigers would go more than that now.
 
teddy23 said:
The Moses talk has obviously and understandably grasped majority of our attention but please don’t let that distract you from the fact that we’ve been the most successful team in the NRL this off season in terms of recruitment

Api, Papalili, Klemmer, Bateman, Staines all confirmed for 2023 etc whilst making big plays at both Munster (drove Melb to raise there offer) and now Moses (word is Parra are restructuring their offer to make Moses happy) but still a chance he may be coming also - then also Nathan Brown is being discussed which imo would be a great signing off the bench

Plus clearing out the trash and giving us spots available to make these moves

Regardless on what happens with Moses the club have done extremely well and deserve recognition and backing from us fans towards the new coaching team to support them on their decisions even if that means letting Hastings go - still think we’re 1-2 spine signings off from being contenders but Moses would certainly help with that
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For mine, a choice between Hastings & Moses is a no brainer. Hastings amongst the action & Moses too often missing in action. The $ for Moses is a waste
 
I think what we have in the backs is genuine competition for spots. No clear 1-5. Hopefully they are all doing the work and 3-4 of them have real breakout years.
 
BAGNF05 said:
I think what we have in the backs is genuine competition for spots. No clear 1-5. Hopefully they are all doing the work and 3-4 of them have real breakout years.
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I too think we have ok backs. With the new forwards giving us the go-forward then we hopefully will see the backs add the polish.
Just the words of a tiges tragic supporter who year after year in the off season tries to convince himself we just might go ok next season
 
Noggon said:
For mine, a choice between Hastings & Moses is a no brainer. Hastings amongst the action & Moses too often missing in action. The $ for Moses is a waste
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I've seen Moses plenty of time "amongst the action". The difference between the two is Moses' efforts are rewarded with line breaks and often setting tries up for team mates. He has matured nicely into a very good 7 and importantly will bring down the bigger men running at him.
 
Reckon when things resume in January there could well be a bit of horse trading to happen- possible WT trades- Seyfarth, Kepaoa, Nofo & Simpkin. I think Doueihi may be in the firing line- but unless we get a direct halve replacement I just think we are too short in halves to countenance it at this stage.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
I've seen Moses plenty of time "amongst the action". The difference between the two is Moses' efforts are rewarded with line breaks and often setting tries up for team mates. He has matured nicely into a very good 7 and importantly will bring down the bigger men running at him.
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You're right there. I was surpised a couple of times later in the season to see Moses actually complete tackles other than dropping off 1/2 way through. And he did some good drawing defense and passing to create gaps. But he still went missing regularly. For mine, still no value for the big bucks.
 
Spartan117 said:
This was in tandem. Give Madge the credit he deserves.

Both Api and Papi have strong relationships with Madge.


Check.the dates
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I never said Madge wasn't part of their signings. Just pointing out that they couldn't get them signed until after Sheen's arrived. And prior to Sheens arriving Madge couldn't sign anyone decent
 
So with Bateman announced does that mean we have missed Moses ?
Word was we were holding out the Bateman announcement until the Moses things was sorted either way as contract might then need adjusting.

Maybe Moses has said no to us and we have moved onto next target or maybe just maybe Moses has said yes and we have already adjusted Bateman contract. Might be an interesting week coming up.
 
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