Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I wouldn’t say Sheens has done a great job here yet.
He was somewhat responsible for the 22 spoon. He embarrassed the club with his decisions surrounding the coach - past, present and future. Sure he has signed a couple of guys, and gotten rid of the right players but he hasn’t proven anything as a coach here yet.
I’m intrigued about our chances in 23 but am also very apprehensive. I too remember the cluster that was 2012 and am not convinced he can do the job.
Why does everyone choose to remember 2012 and forget about 2005 and 2011
 
It’s clear we are building for Benji era and I like what we are doing. We needed to do something different & the team really couldn’t have done much better than they have for 23.

They are getting a pass mark from me to date.

If we get MM that will be a coup, if we don’t we have shown the market a clear intent that we will spend big for a quality player in 24/25 (Munster and MM serious intent).

I’m nervous but somewhat excited for what is building.
 
Yeh roster was the problem, also the coaches game plans and tactics were not not nrl standard. Madge is a great guy and I wish him all the best but we needed a change.
Sheens saw enough when Noddy took over with the shackles off how weak the squad was - albeit with a high injury toll that certainly did not help. No coach was going to succeed at this club on the back of some talented juniors without strengthening the team. With full control and the coaches hat on it is pretty evident what has sparked his motivation.
 
I'd like to get to the Qld games...rd5 v ponies at SC, rd 15 v titans at CBUS.
Good chance we'll beat those sides, We beat the broncs this year with a worse side than what we'll have next year. 🤞
Are you able to get to some games sleeve? Where are you?
That Brisbane game this year was the one I took my young boys to as their first ever live game. So good to get that win.

Hope we can do the same in 2023
 
Off season is the domain of the happy clapper.
This time last year plenty were yelling season 2022 was going to be a huge success.
For mine, season 2023 looks promising bar 3 important factors…
1. Lack of leadership especially on field. No controlling halves, no general.
2. X factor type strike. We have no Marshal / Farah / Tedesco quality of freak player who can setup points out of nothing.
3. Coaching staff. Mostly green or possibly well over cooked.

We require at least 2 of these issues to become a positive to play finals footy. I can’t see an emerging X Factor so we need Brooks/Doueihi to stand up and lead and we need Sheens to turn back the clock.
My hopes are that finally with a good forward pack that can compete with the best of them, one or two of our existing backline options can spark attack and create tries. We also still have a vacant spot plus the possibility of trading one of the final 2023 year players as Sheens mentioned to add further options.

Roll on 2023 season and hopefully better times for WT.
 
If Sheens thought the roster was good enough - now he has the job of getting the wins - he wouldnt be so activlely trying to rebuild it.
The roster was always the problem - the coach is just the easiest target.
Madge signed that entire 2022 roster
 
My hopes are that finally with a good forward pack that can compete with the best of them, one or two of our existing backline options can spark attack and create tries. We also still have a vacant spot plus the possibility of trading one of the final 2023 year players as Sheens mentioned to add further options.

Roll on 2023 season and hopefully better times for WT.
I hope that our forward pack can in fact "compete with the best of them" because i think whilst it is brilliant compared to last year's pack it's still a long way off being a top tier NRL pack.
 
Madge signed that entire 2022 roster
He was here when they were signed, But:
how many did he personally want, compared to how many the club signed and gave to him?
how much cap space did he have when he signed them?
who else was on the market at a comparable price to what he signed them for?
We fans don't know the ins and outs of the recruitment process. Madge could be entirely to blame for the poor roster, or he could be hardly to blame at all. It is likely the truth is somewhere in the middle of that scale.
 
Ok
Madge was part of a recruitment ‘panel’
How much was JTJ, Tamou etc signed for $150,000 & $250,000 ??

Sheens answers to no one as he is also head of football
What dollars is Sheens playing with ??
Bateman $700,000 (guess)
Klemmer $750,000 +
(balance of newcastle contract in 2023)
Ferrari $500,000
(balance of Penrith contract for 2023)
Moses $1.25 mill (possible)

Sheens has been sacked from his last 3-4 clubs because of his ‘leadership’. If there is improvement in 2023 it will mainly be because of the cattle, the cattle able to be bought with the cap space available.

We will never know what Madge could have done with recruitment with all this available money, he was sacked by the new coach 🙄, the new coach because he failed to get Ciraldo
He also dumped Noddy in a no win situation by releasing players and telling anyone that would listen (including the current players) he was mainly aiming for 2025 - 2022 season over

Sheens is not the Messiah, just someone who has the coaching position at the most opportune time to buy quality cattle

But I’m hopeful despite my opinion that the tigers have a great year 🤞for all the supporters who watched the debacle overseen by sheens last year

Mate, that’s too much sense and facts for the Sheens bootlickers. Anything that doesn’t align with their “Sheens is the Messiah” rhetoric, they stick their fingers in their fairs and continue to trot out the same nonsense because they have neither the brains or spine to counter it.

Trying to credit Sheens with the Api and IP signings is just their latest dishonest attempt to rewrite history. They are a pack of low-IQ, repugnant, obnoxious morons
 
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