Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Roar_Power]

Can someone please establish a 'Hastings Lament' thread so select forumers can continue to peacefully live in the past.

 

[Buttface]

I think it's time that someone made a comment about player attitude and entitlement. What's happened to the game that we now have players believing that they should only play in their favourite position. Guys demanding to play fullback or, in our situation, either halfback (Hastings) or five eighth (Douehi) is ridiculous when they're paid good money to do a job for their team in whichever position the coach sees fit. Call me old fashioned but this crap needs to stop. If the player doesn't like the position assigned to them, which the coach believes is best for the team, let them sulk in reserves! It should never lead to a player agitating for a release but, of course we know it's starting to become common practice.

Well said Steve and no I don’t think its and old fashioned view, it’s a team first view, and it goes back a little further, Catto ring a bell. I wonder if these players would they try it on with Bennett, Bellamy, or Robbo? I think not.
Hastings came here to play 13 saying all the right things and it kind of annoying he’s now gone without giving it a crack for one season at 13, with brooks and douie at 7and 6. (And can the brooks haters not turn this into another 7 debate). He should’ve been thanking us for giving him another shot at nrl.
Douie came here to play fullback and he was shite and injured and we had twelve months of people saying he was the next leader to the promised land at 6. Comes back from long injury was shite and demands 6 or Reggie’s, and with that attitude he will never be captain material. He needs to stop being a sook and play centre or whatever is best for the team.
Catto was just an all round sook. His uncles are mates with my uncle and I was keen to have him, but loved it when packer smashed him.
I think their crappy attitude has destabilised the team and we’ve slowly but surely ended up with the spoon. Catto should have been made an example of and made to play reggies for the year to knock this shite on the head early.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

You realise that we lost every game without him and beat multiple top 4 teams with him. No prop can influence the game that much

we also ran last.
our forward pack needed upgrading which it has got in 2023, we needed klemmer to complete that upgrade

 

[Camel2281]

I think it's time that someone made a comment about player attitude and entitlement. What's happened to the game that we now have players believing that they should only play in their favourite position. Guys demanding to play fullback or, in our situation, either halfback (Hastings) or five eighth (Douehi) is ridiculous when they're paid good money to do a job for their team in whichever position the coach sees fit. Call me old fashioned but this crap needs to stop. If the player doesn't like the position assigned to them, which the coach believes is best for the team, let them sulk in reserves! It should never lead to a player agitating for a release but, of course we know it's starting to become common practice.

Brooks has done similar having blokes from the club moved on when he complained to Taylor he was getting overcalled by Robbie

 

[bythebeardofzeus]

I think it's time that someone made a comment about player attitude and entitlement. What's happened to the game that we now have players believing that they should only play in their favourite position. Guys demanding to play fullback or, in our situation, either halfback (Hastings) or five eighth (Douehi) is ridiculous when they're paid good money to do a job for their team in whichever position the coach sees fit. Call me old fashioned but this crap needs to stop. If the player doesn't like the position assigned to them, which the coach believes is best for the team, let them sulk in reserves! It should never lead to a player agitating for a release but, of course we know it's starting to become common practice.

Amen

 

[PabloX]

Hopefully Tesi Niu goes to the Dolphins, so they lose interest in RTS

 

[bptiger 0]

Hastings is a massive loss.

Rubbish , yes he talked a lot on the field , but when I go back and watch the games again , he is slow and didn’t run the ball , he also let the forwards run one out and right next to the ruck where they got smashed , so no he is not a massive loss

 

[Buttface]

Rubbish , yes he talked a lot on the field , but when I go back and watch the games again , he is slow and didn’t run the ball , he also let the forwards run one out and right next to the ruck where they got smashed , so no he is not a massive loss

Yep, a bit over rated on here, he was good but not the messiah and yeah my biggest concern was when he was actually the 7 he didn’t get the forwards rolling, as you said. Still I would have kept him or even Madden, coz now we seem to be needing another half before the season starts.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Yep, a bit over rated on here, he was good but not the messiah and yeah my biggest concern was when he was actually the 7 he didn’t get the forwards rolling, as you said. Still I would have kept him or even Madden, coz now we seem to be needing another half before the season starts.

Have been offline for 2 weeks, so what is the latest with our back up half Moses ? Haven’t seen any recent articles etc.
Do we have any projected decision date ?

 

[jadtiger]

Have been offline for 2 weeks, so what is the latest with our back up half Moses ? Haven’t seen any recent articles etc.
Do we have any projected decision date ?

The decision would have been made weeks ago,i would say at the moment he is just squeezing as many dollars out of pawwa as he can.

 

[fainty]

Have been offline for 2 weeks, so what is the latest with our back up half Moses ? Haven’t seen any recent articles etc.
Do we have any projected decision date ?

Think @THE_POM said he would let us know this week with a decision. Many rumours of people who have said this and that. Who knows?! 🤷‍♂️

 

[Telltails]

I think it's time that someone made a comment about player attitude and entitlement. What's happened to the game that we now have players believing that they should only play in their favourite position. Guys demanding to play fullback or, in our situation, either halfback (Hastings) or five eighth (Douehi) is ridiculous when they're paid good money to do a job for their team in whichever position the coach sees fit. Call me old fashioned but this crap needs to stop. If the player doesn't like the position assigned to them, which the coach believes is best for the team, let them sulk in reserves! It should never lead to a player agitating for a release but, of course we know it's starting to become common practice.

That mentality might be okay in school but not in the professional game. I would assume all players make it known where they prefer to play with their coach and have open adult communication about it. Coaches will naturally favour some players over others, and the outcome of that will help player and club make decisions about moving forward. No player with any ambition is prepared to play in reserves or second fiddle to a player the coach backs if there is opportunity to cement a FG position elsewhere - the very reason Niccho Hines looked for an opportunity at the Sharks
We all just like to fill in the dots about player coach relationships based on our own clouded bias where ever that may lie - you rate the player coach is an idiot, you don't rate the player he can go kick stones in resi's.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Think @THE_POM said he would let us know this week with a decision. Many rumours of people who have said this and that. Who knows?! 🤷‍♂️

Cheers, didn’t like Uncle Bennys comments about coming back to WT, as they seemed like an indirect way of letting us know we are out of the race !
But no news is good news so guess I’ll just have to be patient.

 

[Halbrowne61]

But

That mentality might be okay in school but not in the professional game. I would assume all players make it known where they prefer to play with their coach and have open adult communication about it. Coaches will naturally favour some players over others, and the outcome of that will help player and club make decisions about moving forward. No player with any ambition is prepared to play in reserves or second fiddle to a player the coach backs if there is opportunity to cement a FG position elsewhere - the very reason Niccho Hines looked for an opportunity at the Sharks
We all just like to fill in the dots about player coach relationships based on our own clouded bias where ever that may lie - you rate the player coach is an idiot, you don't rate the player he can go kick stones in resi's.

Agree to a point, but it’s the coaches job to take that on board and then decide what is best for the team, and the style of play that’s being planned.
The ability to adapt( both on/off field)is an intrinsic part of playing the game, and also understanding the big picture.
As I mentioned earlier about Bellamy, he is great at getting into the headspace and clearly explaining the players role.

 

[earl]

What's happened to the game that we now have players believing that they should only play in their favourite position.

They want more money. I don't think they'd care if it wasn't about money.

 

[Telltails]

But

Agree to a point, but it’s the coaches job to take that on board and then decide what is best for the team, and the style of play that’s being planned.
The ability to adapt( both on/off field)is an intrinsic part of playing the game, and also understanding the big picture.
As I mentioned earlier about Bellamy, he is great at getting into the headspace and clearly explaining the players role.

Fans generally look at things that are in the best interest of the club. The modern player looks at what is in the best interest of himself, and clubs that can provide that better than others are always going to win out. In our position until we provide an environment that players can achieve success the whole coach dictating approach is never going to work especially when he has offers to achieve closer to that at other clubs.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Fans generally look at things that are in the best interest of the club. The modern player looks at what is in the best interest of himself, and clubs that can't provide that better than others are always going to win out. In our position until we provide an environment that players can achieve success the whole coach dictating approach is never going to work especially when he has offers to achieve closer to that at other clubs.

But there has to be a leader, and that is always the head coach. He sets the broad strategy but with scope to play heads up.
Imo Once a player has signed for the club, it is in his, and the clubs, interest to contribute the best of what they have.
That will make them more desirable and increase their earning potential.
Or am I being old school and naive ?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

B

Brooks has done similar having blokes from the club moved on when he complained to Taylor he was getting overcalled by Robbie

Brooks has not demanded to play a certain position unlike others e.g hastings

AD may have wanted to play 6 but to date if he is playing centre he hasn't elected to play at another side due to a positional change neither has Brooks

Hastings is the only player at wests tigers who took his bat and ball and left to chase a different position as he was unhappy to play 13 rather than 7

 

[stevied]

They want more money. I don't think they'd care if it wasn't about money.

I think that's a part of it but also ego and feelings of entitlement.

 

[Buttface]

Have been offline for 2 weeks, so what is the latest with our back up half Moses ? Haven’t seen any recent articles etc.
Do we have any projected decision date ?

Someone on a rugby forum or something reckons he signed with parramatta, some other bloke reckons 48hrs, and someone followed someone on InstaSpace. So I guess, he’ll sign with the bunnies?