Luke Brooks #167

Was Brooks fault too....

Not that he had sides with Kyle Lovetts' getting a bath in the Centres or Cory Patersons' / Sitaleki Akauolas' on a wing
His name is often brought up on the forum yet I honestly don't remember him. That name and Tom Humble are so familiar to me but for the life of me I can't recall who they are at all.
 
I like you Winston. You're a funny guy. But I believe that was in the preceding years of Brooks as our halfback.
Could be wrong though,
Luke Brooks Debut RD 14 2013
Teddys Debut RD 1 2012 - lasted 30 minutes before a season ending knee injury
Teddys come back RD 4 2013 on the wing for 4 matches before Moltzen went to half and Teddy to fullback

Teddy played 19 games at 30% win/loss at the Tigers in 2013 before Luke became his half back.
 
His name is often brought up on the forum yet I honestly don't remember him. That name and Tom Humble are so familiar to me but for the life of me I can't recall who they are at all.
His name was Sitaleki Akauola and he only played about 10 games in 2014 either bench, wing or second row before going to Penrith for not many games. Talked of heaps as a prospect, it was during the Potter years. Cant remember why he left. I remember his hands were worse then Rowdys and AJ so the fact he couldnt catch might have been a bit of a problem.
 
Was Brooks fault too....

Not that he had sides with Kyle Lovetts' getting a bath in the Centres or Cory Patersons' / Sitaleki Akauolas' on a wing
Those 9 games Paterson played for the Tigers in 2014 must have done some damage, Brooks still cant get the job done a decade later. Must be some sort of PTSD
 
Luke Brooks Debut RD 14 2013
Teddys Debut RD 1 2012 - lasted 30 minutes before a season ending knee injury
Teddys come back RD 4 2013 on the wing for 4 matches before Moltzen went to half and Teddy to fullback

Teddy played 19 games at 30% win/loss at the Tigers in 2013 before Luke became his half back.
Cheers Winston.
Never played footy so can't say I understand how team's build chemistry and whatnot however I'm a firm believer in "the whole is greater than the Sum of it's parts".
So I'm not arguing anything other than that really.

Still value your contribution though.
 
Cheers Winston.
Never played footy so can't say I understand how team's build chemistry and whatnot however I'm a firm believer in "the whole is greater than the Sum of it's parts".
So I'm not arguing anything other than that really.

Still value your contribution though.
Moses or Brooks as Tigers half yesterday.......which side wins?

The answer is obvious and when you know that answer, the reason we don't have a wining team for the last decade its even more obvious.

Try driving a car without a steering wheel, some parts are more necessary than the floor mats.
 
His name was Sitaleki Akauola and he only played about 10 games in 2014 either bench, wing or second row before going to Penrith for not many games. Talked of heaps as a prospect, it was during the Potter years. Cant remember why he left. I remember his hands were worse then Rowdys and AJ so the fact he couldnt catch might have been a bit of a problem.
Very raw prospect during his short stint in the NRL, a big athletic back rowerer but a very awkward player. I remember he put on some enormous hits but put himself in as much danger at the blokes he was hitting. I believe he's gone on to have a pretty decent ESL career.
 
Respectfully disagree mate, @You Know Who said it best in post #2250

"Imagine being this obnoxiously stupid. It’s like arguing with facts and logic against a toddler. They just stick their fingers in their ears and say ‘lalalala’."

We've seen this in certain other threads that are now deleted. This is why Earl is impossible to be an honest interlocutor. Delusional at best, judging by countless posts, dishonest more likely.
The problem with Earl,Paws ,Tim Sheens and co is that if you have a differing opinion on a particular matter and it goes against what they "think "is the right way,you are automatically a "conspiracy theorist or nutjob in their minds even though you have done a heap of research on the said matter they cant see past their own thoughts with no in between....Im just stating the fact that the politics thread was closed because particular posters are nothing but left leaning without considering other peoples opinion whether they are right or centre...
I was always a supporter of Madge ONLY because he had the guts to take on a job where the place was a mess and he tried in his way and method of righting the problem,however the Madge haters couldnt wait to get rid of him because Sheens,Benji Farah are all heros of the club and thats why we are where we are atm as far as wins go...
I find that if others have an opinion it is always better to respect that opinion and person rather than ridicule someone for having a differing opinion...but thats just me and maybe Im to humble a person to bellittle someone....cheers mate...
 
Cheers Winston.
Never played footy so can't say I understand how team's build chemistry and whatnot however I'm a firm believer in "the whole is greater than the Sum of it's parts".
So I'm not arguing anything other than that really.

Still value your contribution though.

The whole is producing 0.

This means that the sum of the parts that are producing 0 are less than 0.


Yeah even Tedesco had 15% win rate at this club at one point.

He played less than 10 games in that season IIRC.
 
Tedesco's win rate was at 13% in 2013, from 19 appearances.
Brooks made his debut in Round 24 of that year.

With all due respect I've outlined the basis of my point and yes, I love Brooks, but not enough to sit on the forum and (pointlessly) argue with fellow forumers over.
No-one is winning that one.

Agree to disagree.
 
I think Brooks' performance yesterday was basically what he can be at his best. As much as I love the positivity Earl, it wasn't quite the "stfu" game you were making it out to be, but it was an encouraging performance based on the last few years of performances he's produced and he had plenty of positive contributions with few negative ones, which is more than you can say for every other game he had this year.

End of the day the fact is he's not a good player and he's definitely not a first grade standard halfback. He can however be a passable 6 or 14 for a first grade side. While you'd constantly be on the lookout to replace him and he can be improved upon, he is at least capable of helping out when he's playing wider from the ruck and has a bit of space. It's no surprise his best performances last year were with Hastings in the 7. He's a guy that if you're going to have success with him in your team, has to be the worst player in your spine. If you're paying him $1.1m to be the guy who has the burden of putting points on, then he's going to be a massive failure, which is what he has been for us over the last 5 years.

People who constantly point towards the team around Brooks being the reason for his failures are barking up the wrong tree. We haven't had great teams, sure, but it's not as though he's been throwing perfect passes or putting in perfect kicks for players who would mess it up. Lots of poor passes, poor kicks and poor last tackle options over the past few years that would make no difference who was playing outside him. But a lot of this would've been mitigated if we had not put him in the 7 where he'd have to do all of these things so regularly.

I really hope we go with 6. Brooks 7. Wakeham and have Wakeham operate at first receiver for the rest of the year.
 
Yikes, there's some Brooks-loving fanboi's in this thread. Not sure I've ever seen a halfback's performance described as "absolutely carved them up", "killed them", "STFU game", "very very very good" and be on the losing side with no tries, no try assists, no line breaks. He threw a couple of good passes which ended up going through further hands to lead to tries. Is that the only basis for "carving up"? Wow. The bar has been set very very very low it seems.

Even Moses for the Eels had 4 try assists and nailed some great sideline conversions and I still wouldn't describe his performance as a "carve up", let alone Brooks performance.
 
Just a pity the club doesnt give two shits about the fans and the whole, ya know, win or lose thing. Better wrap a 10 year veteran in cotton wool because again he sucks at his million dollar, 80 mins a week, day job. Zero sympathy, do better or piss off to Super League.
Agree that fans are past sympathy and I would be more than happy to see club and Brooks part ways. But it appears the coach continues to back him and from the outside looking in just interested to watch how the players react after another loss that was winnable
 
I think Brooks' performance yesterday was basically what he can be at his best. As much as I love the positivity Earl, it wasn't quite the "stfu" game you were making it out to be, but it was an encouraging performance based on the last few years of performances he's produced and he had plenty of positive contributions with few negative ones, which is more than you can say for every other game he had this year.

End of the day the fact is he's not a good player and he's definitely not a first grade standard halfback. He can however be a passable 6 or 14 for a first grade side. While you'd constantly be on the lookout to replace him and he can be improved upon, he is at least capable of helping out when he's playing wider from the ruck and has a bit of space. It's no surprise his best performances last year were with Hastings in the 7. He's a guy that if you're going to have success with him in your team, has to be the worst player in your spine. If you're paying him $1.1m to be the guy who has the burden of putting points on, then he's going to be a massive failure, which is what he has been for us over the last 5 years.

People who constantly point towards the team around Brooks being the reason for his failures are barking up the wrong tree. We haven't had great teams, sure, but it's not as though he's been throwing perfect passes or putting in perfect kicks for players who would mess it up. Lots of poor passes, poor kicks and poor last tackle options over the past few years that would make no difference who was playing outside him. But a lot of this would've been mitigated if we had not put him in the 7 where he'd have to do all of these things so regularly.

I really hope we go with 6. Brooks 7. Wakeham and have Wakeham operate at first receiver for the rest of the year.

A very reasoned comment
 
Yikes, there's some Brooks-loving fanboi's in this thread. Not sure I've ever seen a halfback's performance described as "absolutely carved them up", "killed them", "STFU game", "very very very good" and be on the losing side with no tries, no try assists, no line breaks. He threw a couple of good passes which ended up going through further hands to lead to tries. Is that the only basis for "carving up"? Wow. The bar has been set very very very low it seems.

Even Moses for the Eels had 4 try assists and nailed some great sideline conversions and I still wouldn't describe his performance as a "carve up", let alone Brooks performance.
The fan boys also never let us forget that he was halfback of the year once. Alll the other good halves must have been on the sideline injured because to this day I still cannot fathom how he got that award
 
I think Brooks' performance yesterday was basically what he can be at his best. As much as I love the positivity Earl, it wasn't quite the "stfu" game you were making it out to be, but it was an encouraging performance based on the last few years of performances he's produced and he had plenty of positive contributions with few negative ones, which is more than you can say for every other game he had this year.

End of the day the fact is he's not a good player and he's definitely not a first grade standard halfback. He can however be a passable 6 or 14 for a first grade side. While you'd constantly be on the lookout to replace him and he can be improved upon, he is at least capable of helping out when he's playing wider from the ruck and has a bit of space. It's no surprise his best performances last year were with Hastings in the 7. He's a guy that if you're going to have success with him in your team, has to be the worst player in your spine. If you're paying him $1.1m to be the guy who has the burden of putting points on, then he's going to be a massive failure, which is what he has been for us over the last 5 years.

People who constantly point towards the team around Brooks being the reason for his failures are barking up the wrong tree. We haven't had great teams, sure, but it's not as though he's been throwing perfect passes or putting in perfect kicks for players who would mess it up. Lots of poor passes, poor kicks and poor last tackle options over the past few years that would make no difference who was playing outside him. But a lot of this would've been mitigated if we had not put him in the 7 where he'd have to do all of these things so regularly.

I really hope we go with 6. Brooks 7. Wakeham and have Wakeham operate at first receiver for the rest of the year.

Good post. I think you are being a bit harsh in your assessment of his game yesterday. He was real good. That is better than average as a half in general and definitely as a 6 as the way everyone should be viewing him. No one thought he had that game in him. He threw some brilliant passes.

Agree with most of your post though.
 
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