Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

The Chad said:
While I understand people questioning the release of Joffa, I think the maths of it is what makes the most sense- having a player on the bench on $600k isn't good business. This wasn't a 2023 decision so much as a 2023 ONWARDS decision. It's easy to blast the front office, I see it every day, but for once I think it shows a plan- no more overspending & ruining the cap mix. No more Mbye's on $800k. Brooks' offer was "low", but probably close to what he was worth. No to Schuster on $1.2m or whatever was reported.

If the club has worked out how to manage contracts under the cap- this should be a sign of encouragement.

I like Joffa. People on here forget how often he was called a 'plodder' under Madge. But he was always leading the defensive line, always looking for a hit-up. I miss him. BUT. Was he worth $600k on our roster? Take that $600k & secure a couple of our promising juniors.
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I disagree somewhat. When Sheens pulled the trigger on Madge, and appointed Noddy, the Club as a whole, gave up on 2022, we won 1 of our remaining 12 games.
We released Ofahengaue from an already weak squad, and have continued to choose the Prince of Plodders, Alex Seyfarth instead.
My issue is, a weak squad in 2023 became even weaker, that's another year basically forfeited. We may land Fainu, and I'll be happy with that, but all these exceptional juniors we have will head for the hills if they don't debut into a competitive side.
 
Telltails said:
Might have something to do with tossing a player to the curb who was the best and fairest last year abx recommitted to the club only last Sept after an horrendous season.
Whether or not it was a good financial decision or not it was appalling for morale and culture.
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Might also have something to do with losing our other player who was also our best player in 3 recent seasons?
We saw the level of respect the team has for Brooks with their 66 point demolition of Cowboys.
 
Eternal Tiger said:
I disagree somewhat. When Sheens pulled the trigger on Madge, and appointed Noddy, the Club as a whole, gave up on 2022, we won 1 of our remaining 12 games.
We released Ofahengaue from an already weak squad, and have continued to choose the Prince of Plodders, Alex Seyfarth instead.
My issue is, a weak squad in 2023 became even weaker, that's another year basically forfeited. We may land Fainu, and I'll be happy with that, but all these exceptional juniors we have will head for the hills if they don't debut into a competitive side.
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The squad in 23 is a huge improvement on 22. We had 2 Blues in the squad. But the confusing part for me is when measured solely on for and against points, it looks no different?
 
twentyforty said:
Might also have something to do with losing our other player who was also our best player in 3 recent seasons?
We saw the level of respect the team has for Brooks with their 66 point demolition of Cowboys.
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Brooks fans thinking "There's no earthly way I can show this guy's a good player through facts, stats, results of his good play, things that are measurable. I know , I'll use something totally opinion based like a performance of the team when he's not in it (Ignoring all other prevailing factors) and call that a victory. Something that pesky facts can't disprove."

It really is an admission of surrender.
 
twentyforty said:
Might also have something to do with losing our other player who was also our best player in 3 recent seasons?
We saw the level of respect the team has for Brooks with their 66 point demolition of Cowboys.
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Also Joffas last/ farewell game - and havnt won one since. Make of it what you will but the dumping players mid season who want to stay at a struggling club that others don't want to play at - i.e Brooks - is the height of stupidity. More so when they now see him playing for a team who are still competing for the premiership while the blokes left behind are getting smashed.
 
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I do think coaching has been the major issue.
Of course ,lack of halves and depth in key positions doesn’t help.But looking at our best roster ,I’m sure one of the elite coaches of the NRL would of racked up more than 3 wins .
Elite coaches wouldn’t stand for the way Lee and Justin go about things aswell……..
 
It sounds like the Manly raid is on!

Latu and Samuela Latu and possibly Fultons son. Could be a decent bench player.

Just need tricky Trindal and Staines to resign.

I think Noffas time is up and so is Nadens.

Junior toupu needs to practice basic bomb catching, he fumbles at least 1 a game. Has talent but needs to go back to NsW cup for a couple weeks.

Simpkin needs to be used as trade bait…
 
Kelce68 said:
No.

He has continued to argue for six weeks that Ofahengaue should've been replaced when the very goal of releasing him wasn't to find a replacement.

So it's a moot point.

Criticising the club for not achieving an outcome that they weren't trying to achieve is redundant.

And a buried issue.

Move on.
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Just for the dummies, what was the point?

Was it to get more cash to spend on players that don't want to come here or what, we have to spend the cap regardless, whether it's to buy new players or upgrade ones we already have, but we have to have 30 signed as well.

Would be nice to see some sort of outcome, what exactly was it?
 
Conbat07 said:
It sounds like the Manly raid is on!

Latu and Samuela Latu and possibly Fultons son. Could be a decent bench player.

Just need tricky Trindal and Staines to resign.

I think Noffas time is up and so is Nadens.

Junior toupu needs to practice basic bomb catching, he fumbles at least 1 a game. Has talent but needs to go back to NsW cup for a couple weeks.

Simpkin needs to be used as trade bait…
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Tupou won't learn anything by dumping him to NSW Cup. Need to take the good with the bad and hope he improves his ball security.

He will be elite if he is developed properly.
 
Todd Packer said:
Brooks fans thinking "There's no earthly way I can show this guy's a good player through facts, stats, results of his good play, things that are measurable. I know , I'll use something totally opinion based like a performance of the team when he's not in it (Ignoring all other prevailing factors) and call that a victory. Something that pesky facts can't disprove."

It really is an admission of surrender.
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How about 3 Kelly-Barnes medals in the last 5 years?
 
weststigerman said:
Tupou won't learn anything by dumping him to NSW Cup. Need to take the good with the bad and hope he improves his ball security.

He will be elite if he is developed properly.
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Don’t agree, sending him back to reserve grade gives him time away from the grind of NRL. It can burn kids out. He’s been off his game for weeks now, looks tired. We just don’t have any depth or he would have already been pushed back.
 
lathami said:
Don’t agree, sending him back to reserve grade gives him time away from the grind of NRL. It can burn kids out. He’s been off his game for weeks now, looks tired. We just don’t have any depth or he would have already been pushed back.
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Agree. Dropping players is fine provided it is made clear what they need to work on and what you value in them as a player and instill a belief that they will be back.
 
hank37w said:
Just for the dummies, what was the point?

Was it to get more cash to spend on players that don't want to come here or what, we have to spend the cap regardless, whether it's to buy new players or upgrade ones we already have, but we have to have 30 signed as well.

Would be nice to see some sort of outcome, what exactly was it?
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I agree.

what was the point?

Who knows where the recouped funds could be allocated?

Could be an extra 100k each to nail the Fainus' signature..

Could be a bump on a Bula upgrade..

Could allow us to reward Junior Tupou with a payrise..

Could cover a transfer fee to pry a half away from another club for '24..

Could be to upgrade and extend Miller, or Fa' agutu or TDS or Laulili'i or Galvin or {insert promising junior here}..

Who knows. Hopefully we find out in time.
 
Todd Packer said:
Brooks fans thinking "There's no earthly way I can show this guy's a good player through facts, stats, results of his good play, things that are measurable. I know , I'll use something totally opinion based like a performance of the team when he's not in it (Ignoring all other prevailing factors) and call that a victory. Something that pesky facts can't disprove."

It really is an admission of surrender.
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😂
Nope, Brooks Basher that blinded by public opinion, doesn’t even see Brooks on the field. Thinking it’s the new 7 Luciano (Lucky) Rivers. Not even surprised that Lucky was awarded 2 DallyM points for his marvellous game. And also wondering why they gave the new guy a kick at goal. 🤣🤣
 
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