Jedi_Tiger
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backrower different to a half or a back in the ESL
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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BalmainJnr
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From April, 2017:
amp.smh.com.au
Ivan Cleary's message to Wests Tigers stars: We want them here but they aren't indispensable
"The star of the team is the team". That has long been Ivan Cleary's coaching philosophy. And he won't shy away from it as he approaches delicate discussions surrounding the future of superstars Aaron Woods and James Tedesco.
twentyforty
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Still not playing very well. It just looks like it because of the team hes in. No other backwrower makes more errors than him.
We have become the club that generates interest in the NRL not for the good that happens on the field, but all the stuff that happens off the field that amuses some and winds up the poor rusted ons.
I'm convinced we make fans from other clubs grateful that they don't follow WTs.
twentyforty
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Was that the previous 5 year plan? Or part of this one?From April, 2017:
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Ivan Cleary's message to Wests Tigers stars: We want them here but they aren't indispensable
"The star of the team is the team". That has long been Ivan Cleary's coaching philosophy. And he won't shy away from it as he approaches delicate discussions surrounding the future of superstars Aaron Woods and James Tedesco.
Halbrowne61
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It’s certainly an interesting article and a good read six years on, knowing what we know now.From April, 2017:
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Ivan Cleary's message to Wests Tigers stars: We want them here but they aren't indispensable
"The star of the team is the team". That has long been Ivan Cleary's coaching philosophy. And he won't shy away from it as he approaches delicate discussions surrounding the future of superstars Aaron Woods and James Tedesco.
It is the blueprint for all of our 5 year plans,next year we are going to break new ground by implementing a 7 year plan guaranteed to work
BalmainJnr
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The previous one with Ivan.
It is just the usual rinse and repeat and throw a few others to the wolves policy.The only thing our dickheads are good at
Halbrowne61
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Let’s get really radical and have a one year plan, yes, I know it’s outrageous and audacious but it can be done, just ask Andrew Webster !
Bird is the Word
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Pascoe appears to have softened his stance on the mediocrity benchmark…
As always in these cunning plans management have the rules ONLY apply to others and not themselves
BalmainJnr
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Judgement was passed on the mediocrity scale though, not the success scale.
Sezer isn’t the marquee 7 signing we were all wishing for. I’m not sure how we would attract one right now.
However, I do think he can bring some value to the club. If it’s a short deal say 1 year with 1 year club option I’d take that. We need someone that can organise this rabble. We haven’t had an organising half for a long time and are suffering from it.
We need someone who can direct us around the field, brings some leadership to what is a very young side. I’m not sure Luke would ever be able to do this but Sezer seems like he can.
I haven’t watch a lot of SL but he seems to have a pretty good passing game (often Luke would take the wrong option or throw a poor pass). We need to get more value out of players like Paps and I think maybe Sezer can unlock players better with his passing.
He also looks to have a good kicking game short and long. He doesn’t have the running game of Luke but right now the team needs to be organised more than having a strong runner. Unlock others in the team is the goal.
He isn’t going to have an incredible highlights package but I feel he could bring some structure which we are desperate for.
However, I do think he can bring some value to the club. If it’s a short deal say 1 year with 1 year club option I’d take that. We need someone that can organise this rabble. We haven’t had an organising half for a long time and are suffering from it.
We need someone who can direct us around the field, brings some leadership to what is a very young side. I’m not sure Luke would ever be able to do this but Sezer seems like he can.
I haven’t watch a lot of SL but he seems to have a pretty good passing game (often Luke would take the wrong option or throw a poor pass). We need to get more value out of players like Paps and I think maybe Sezer can unlock players better with his passing.
He also looks to have a good kicking game short and long. He doesn’t have the running game of Luke but right now the team needs to be organised more than having a strong runner. Unlock others in the team is the goal.
He isn’t going to have an incredible highlights package but I feel he could bring some structure which we are desperate for.
TigerNeddyK
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Sezer is far far superior to Brooks… and has played finals footy …
TigerNeddyK
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Me 3
He played finals footy in 2019 which will be 5 years prior by 2024.
In that 5 years Sezer has suffered injuries and got much older, meaning one of his strengths which was his speed off the mark has now diminished.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard he is now too fragile to take the ball to the line, so won’t help us in that respect either.
At this stage of his career he’s about on par with Will Smith and we have seen how that worked out,
Me 4.
Organizer
Kicker ✅
Experienced ✅
Take us forward ✅
Short term contract till the young guns within our pathways are ready ✅
TigerNeddyK
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Brilliant…👆this is so effing accurate.. exactly right..
TigerNeddyK
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You guys are really off your head.. did you watch the game the other night? We had the prop , Klemmer and second rower Bateman having to run in and do the work of the halfback just to get some ball movement happening… Wakeham stands back as if he is the messiah capable of pulling off a miracle on the 5th play… if the ball is thrown at him he refuses to take even a couple of steps forward to put the defence in any doubt at all that he may attack the line and he always does the Moses Mbye .. the crab sideways and look to anyone that’s flat footed to throw the ball AT.. we need a half that can direct the play around.. that can have these big mobile forwards running off him and into space and that can get some momentum and a quick play the ball in good ball area so we can play some attacking football against a retreating and stressed defensive line.. Sezer can do that, Hastings had it going a couple of times last year and we looked 1000% better.. Brooks has never been able to work it out , never. No matter who was beside him .. Sezer and hopefully Fainu can do all of this ,,
