Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[hugh1954]

Watson would be nothing more than a desperation signing. Hasn't he already rejected us once too?

We love going back to take a sip from the old river, this club. That's why it wouldn't surprise if the man in question from Rothfields article is, in fact, James Tedesco.

Watson would be our new Peachy No Thanks

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

There's certainly a chance of it....
We'd just sacked Sheens, Benji was looking to quit, CEO was on his way out....
Bad time to be around the joint...

I don't know I could hang the club out to dry for it, The mental space on young players now isn't what it was then, It was as much a surprise to them as it was to anyone....
Just a bad time, and a horrible thing....
Can't see the injury being the only thing weighing on him
No one will ever know, I remember reading his girlfriend at the time said she went looking for a note -
Knowing that he wouldn't have left one...

Speaks to what sort of kid he was I guess....

When we stop talking about him and start talking about them - we can begin again....

 

[Fallen Angel]

Salmon to the Dogs is official. Ricky was right after all.

 

[851]

What do you mean by beat? Is your only measure of achieving dominance over an opposition pack how many points you score? My issue is that you are making these huge statements about the packs deficiencies without an ounce of statistical support outside the brilliant technical analysis of "Stef not run hard enough all the time".

So I'm not a hypocrite here are some very clear statistics that refute your gut feeling that our pack is below average.

We produce 8.87m per run, this is good enough for 4th in the NRL.

We concede 8.98m per run, this is 11th in the NRL.

The net result is -0.11m per run in the NRL. This net result in 8th in the NRL. So let me clarify that, with consideration to the net result of our running metres produced and conceded we are the 8th best team in the NRL, 8TH.

You know what we are 17th at? Points per play the ball inside the 20m line. We are 0.51 points per play the ball the best teams ate in the high 0.9s. We are approaching a 50% capacity to score points compared to the elite attacking teams in the NRL. Keep in mind as per my previous point we are easily the worst attacking team but we still rank first in errors. If we were scoring points off high risk plays, fine, but our backs can't even hold the ball playing basic shape.

Finally after 9 rounds we had scored -36.8% than the average amount of points for a team with our field position. That is so horrendously terrible. Once again the best attacking teams are scoring at +30/40%.

In summary our forwards perform at a top 8 level. They get us elite field position, they compete on a per run basis with any team in the NRL. So when you day something like tell me a pack we have beaten, the honest response is we beat at least 50% of them. We just can't take front foot ball and field position and turn them into points. Our pack is good, our backs are significantly below first grade that is what every statistical measure tells us.

But by all means, keeping yelling at Stef to run harder oh great forward whisperer.

Mate even Cronk who won't blame anyone, has said it's on our halves, he has gone full Brooks fan boy mode again after coming around for a long time, trying to blame Stef, when the problem is in the halves, he is not alone at this though.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Mate even Cronk who won't blame anyone, has said it's on our halves, he has gone full Brooks fan boy mode again after coming around for a long time, trying to blame Stef, when the problem is in the halves, he is not alone at this though.

The halves won’t be any better next year. If anything, they will be worse.

 

[851]

Definitely. @batboy and his love for Brooks is worse than Russell saying Liddle was a better hooker than Harry Grant

Sad, but ultimately true, a few other Brooks fans have taken umbridge at Tomatosoup's facts, because it fly's in the face of their argument and point of view. It's not just Brooks, it's on all our halves, they can't create jack

 

[tigerbenji]

Salmon to the Dogs is official. Ricky was right after all.

I thought the Tigers should of chased him.

 

[Demps]

Keeping an eye on your man Demps?,
Been dropped from Roosters Ressies to the Bears, Now coming off the bench for them?
Any news? Mighta got distracted again?

Nah, out of the loop.

I think Bears are aligned with Storm now.
Is that the whack?

Doesn't seem like a good bench option.

 

[851]

The halves won’t be any better next year. If anything, they will be worse.

That's your opinion, mine is they will be better next year, and by quite a margin as well, although they don't have to be very good to beat the rabble we currently have in the halves

 

[Fallen Angel]

That's your opinion, mine is they will be better next year, and by quite a margin as well, although they don't have to be very good to beat the rabble we currently have in the halves

You’ve followed this club long enough to know better

 

[Camel2281]

We have so few spots available and we are desperate for halves and outside backs plus ideally we'd add a forward as well. I don't like the idea of signing Watson who just gives us a utility bench option.

The utility bench spot is a specialist position these days and having one makes a huge difference, the likes of Dylan Walker etc are so valuable. Not Having a specialist 14 is a massive weakness in the modern gane

 

[earl]

The utility bench spot is a specialist position these days and having one makes a huge difference, the likes of Dylan Walker etc are so valuable. Not Having a specialist 14 is a massive weakness in the modern gane

I hear you but I worry we have so many holes in our squad this is a lesser issue.

 

[Kaito]

His pregnant girlfriend found him from Memory.
BMM was supposed to collect him from home that evening,
But moved on thinking he was sorted when he called him and there was no answer....

So big for a group of young blokes...

Rest in eternal sleep Mosese.
Gone but never forgotten 🙏🏼💐

 

[hank37w]

Toa effort on the weekend was the perfect example. The winger had denied Souths the try but Toa did not back up and merely jogged when the ball was passed back inside to his opposite man, who scored the try. Not the first time Toa has been caught bulging.

You're not wrong, we have too many players that all too often don't put in the effort like chasing when there is an intecept or a tackle bust, coming in to help complete a tackle and as a result an attacking player breaks free or gets a pass away, pouncing on a loose ball. etc.

You see it all the time and Toa, Junior, Tommy and Asu are some of the worst offenders and for every good thing they do or the odd touch of class they occasionally produce, they do 2 or 3 things really badly that end up costing us.

While we're at it, I am less than impressed with Bateman, who to me makes too many mistakes and has too many brain snaps. I mean I like a bit of niggle but sometimes he just goes way too far and maybe I am missing the good bits that he produces but I just don't think he is giving us great value at the moment.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

You're not wrong, we have too many players that all too often don't put in the effort like chasing when there is an intecept or a tackle bust, coming in to help complete a tackle and as a result an attacking player breaks free or gets a pass away, pouncing on a loose ball. etc.

You see it all the time and Toa, Junior, Tommy and Asu are some of the worst offenders and for every good thing they do or the odd touch of class they occasionally produce, they do 2 or 3 things really badly that end up costing us.

While we're at it, I am less than impressed with Bateman, who to me makes too many mistakes and has too many brain snaps. I mean I like a bit of niggle but sometimes he just goes way too far and maybe I am missing the good bits that he produces but I just don't think he is giving us great value at the moment.

Who is?

 

[hank37w]

I think Brad Parker would be a good addition to our team.
He has plenty of NRL experience and is a big body with good mobility for a man of his size. He’s an aggressive, but smart defender who should still be in his prime for the next couple of seasons.

Parker would at least give us 1 centre that can actually defend.

 

[Chipofftheoldblock]

We don’t need both Jayden Sullivan and Connor Watson. They cover the same positions.

Sullivan is not a hooker. He was used there to get gametime nothing else.
The kid is a pure half -5/8 player. I hate it when coaches think they can manufacture a player into another position that does not look natural for them.
It was like John Morris playing HB for us back in the day.....a terrible coaching decision by our current head coach who loves putting players in positions they are not right for.
Next thing we will say is that Tupou should be playing 2nd Row.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Sullivan is not a hooker. He was used there to get gametime nothing else.
The kid is a pure half -5/8 player. I hate it when coaches think they can manufacture a player into another position that does not look natural for them.
It was like John Morris playing HB for us back in the day.....a terrible coaching decision by our current head coach who loves putting players in positions they are not right for.
Next thing we will say is that Tupou should be playing 2nd Row.

Good work experience

 

[liltiger]

His pregnant girlfriend found him from Memory.
BMM was supposed to collect him from home that evening,
But moved on thinking he was sorted when he called him and there was no answer....

So big for a group of young blokes...

My bad thought it was his housemate who found him, his pregnant girlfriend makes it so much more tragic

 

[Kaito]

I'm not sure if you know the story, I'm assuming
you don't mate, not funny @AmericanHistoryX