Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

The problem as I see it now isn't dollars available but roster spots available.

Sezar & Sullivan take the club to 29. Staines would be 30. That leaves James & Seyfarth without a chair at the table. People are talking about releasing Nofa & Kepaoa- but they are outside backs, where we are short.

The club needs to move on some middle forwards & some hooker options. It might be wise to invest in at least 1 player that can cover a few roles at this point because I think we are going to be looking thin out wide. In a poor group, we are losing Talau & gaining...nobody.

Seyfarth & James might be popular, but I don't see how they fit right now.
 
The Chad said:
The problem as I see it now isn't dollars available but roster spots available.

Sezar & Sullivan take the club to 29. Staines would be 30. That leaves James & Seyfarth without a chair at the table. People are talking about releasing Nofa & Kepaoa- but they are outside backs, where we are short.

The club needs to move on some middle forwards & some hooker options. It might be wise to invest in at least 1 player that can cover a few roles at this point because I think we are going to be looking thin out wide. In a poor group, we are losing Talau & gaining...nobody.

Seyfarth & James might be popular, but I don't see how they fit right now.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that we will regret letting James go - a bit like Junior Tatolla.
 
FrodoTBagin said:
if Mansfield is actually development and not top 30 next year I could see a 1 year deal happening.
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Would like to see Mansfield take Seyfarth's seat
at the table. He's top 30 next year. Seyfarth will
be looking to get paid soon too, I'd let him go
 
The Chad said:
The problem as I see it now isn't dollars available but roster spots available.

Sezar & Sullivan take the club to 29. Staines would be 30. That leaves James & Seyfarth without a chair at the table. People are talking about releasing Nofa & Kepaoa- but they are outside backs, where we are short.

The club needs to move on some middle forwards & some hooker options. It might be wise to invest in at least 1 player that can cover a few roles at this point because I think we are going to be looking thin out wide. In a poor group, we are losing Talau & gaining...nobody.

Seyfarth & James might be popular, but I don't see how they fit right now.
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Kepaoa is not a legit outside back. He hasn't made any position his own at all. I cringe whenever I see him in the team and I honestly think development players are at the same level as him.

Can make a decent 2nd rower though if he went somewhere like Melbourne though.

Nofs head just isn't in it anymore. He doesn't want to be here, the club doesn't want him here and it's just better if we part ways. Using him as tradebait for someone would be great but if we can get his full salary off the books without a trade I say go for it. Worst case could easily go use the money on someone like Bevan French
 
earl said:
I'd love to have him here. I know he is in the position where we are probably strongest but he is probably the best prop of all time and he makes a difference.
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Would just play him as a 13 if he came here. He gets through 70+ mins a game and Pole presently in the 13 doesn't.
 
Kaito said:
Would like to see Mansfield take Seyfarth's seat
at the table. He's top 30 next year. Seyfarth will
be looking to get paid soon too, I'd let him go
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What has Mansfield done to deserve a Top 30 contract?
Has he been outstanding in NSW Cup week over week??? Is he a better player than Seyfarth???
At least Seyfarth is showing what he can do on a consistent basis when he plays. He is a solid squad player who a contract should be given to.

This notion of giving young kids top 30 contract is bulls$%t.
If they have performed on a consistent basis and trained the house down consistently, I am all for it otherwise T&T contract it is.

Contracts should be given on performance not potential.
Contracts given to Tuki or Reilly or Rua are case in point.
Terrible contract decisions that has most likely impacted getting better players to get club due to holding a top 30 contract space.
All 3 would struggle to play either Super League or Championship in the UK or QLD Cup.
 
Chipofftheoldblock said:
What has Mansfield done to deserve a Top 30 contract?
Has he been outstanding in NSW Cup week over week??? Is he a better player than Seyfarth???
At least Seyfarth is showing what he can do on a consistent basis when he plays. He is a solid squad player who a contract should be given to.

This notion of giving young kids top 30 contract is bulls$%t.
If they have performed on a consistent basis and trained the house down consistently, I am all for it otherwise T&T contract it is.

Contracts should be given on performance not potential.
Contracts given to Tuki or Reilly or Rua are case in point.
Terrible contract decisions that has most likely impacted getting better players to get club due to holding a top 30 contract space.
All 3 would struggle to play either Super League or Championship in the UK or QLD Cup.
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What about apasolome saukuru and Christian mainmast.Sorry about the spelling. They haven't been within cooee of first grade as well as the fainu brother
 
Todd Packer said:
That's why I suggest a train and trial as it doesn't take up a spot but keeps him at the club.
But we'll have more than 1 spot after some of the dead wood gets a tap on the shoulder.
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I reckon someone will offer him a top 30 contract. We have Sione Fainu on our top 30, and won't cut him. But in reality he's got Tasi's spot and other clubs will have room at the bottom of their squad for a backup.
 
Vicious said:
No idea how you can say second row is beyond him when he makes regular line breaks playing there, like a decent second rower is meant to do.
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He's made 3 linebreaks in his entire career.
He's a prop. Doesn't have the mobility to play out wide anymore. He runs straight and hard but a lack of skill and agility makes him too one dimensional for my liking. Fainu looks to have him covered in the future
 
Chipofftheoldblock said:
What has Mansfield done to deserve a Top 30 contract?
Has he been outstanding in NSW Cup week over week??? Is he a better player than Seyfarth???
At least Seyfarth is showing what he can do on a consistent basis when he plays. He is a solid squad player who a contract should be given to.

This notion of giving young kids top 30 contract is bulls$%t.
If they have performed on a consistent basis and trained the house down consistently, I am all for it otherwise T&T contract it is.

Contracts should be given on performance not potential.
Contracts given to Tuki or Reilly or Rua are case in point.
Terrible contract decisions that has most likely impacted getting better players to get club due to holding a top 30 contract space.
All 3 would struggle to play either Super League or Championship in the UK or QLD Cup.
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Our former recruitment and retention team were appalling. Every development player got a guaranteed year of first grade chucked in. Most players have to earn a top 30 spot. Occasionally elite juniors need to be gambled on to secure them long term in face of stuff competition, especially when we're a weak club, but you can only take so many gambles. If it's a Faagutu, TDS, Miller, Laulilii you take that gamble. Inconsistencies or injury prone players need to earn the top 30.
 
balmain boy said:
He's made 3 linebreaks in his entire career.
He's a prop. Doesn't have the mobility to play out wide anymore. He runs straight and hard but a lack of skill and agility makes him too one dimensional for my liking. Fainu looks to have him covered in the future
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That’s 3 more than Bateman has made or even looked like making this season.
 
bbobb said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that we will regret letting James go - a bit like Junior Tatolla.
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I think James is very promising. Would definitely find a spot for him in the 30 if it were up to me.

I've been disappointed with Matamua tbh. Don't know if he's been injured this year or what, but he hasn't kicked on like I thought he would. Also, Pole... Feels like he's plateaued a bit at a level lower than he has shown he can play.

Could just be a bit of burn out for both, but I'd pick James over one of them if it came down to it.

Have to admit Seyfarth has grown on me the last couple of months, but would let him go too; I don't think Seyfarth has anywhere near the ceiling James does.
 
Chipofftheoldblock said:
Contracts should be given on performance not potential.
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Agree with you. I was just saying that he's top 30
next year, for good or for worse. 7 tries & good
metres back from injury, he goes alright...
@balmain boy post replying to you is pretty much
spot on. Have to invest & incentivise the young
guys that are showing a lot of promise. The
recruitment/retention under Madge wasn't good enough like you said, Tuki, Rua, Reilly, Sione
all took up spots in top 30. These young guys
coming up are a different kettle of fish though
 
I sometimes believe we expect too much from our younger players, especially our forwards. It would be a challenge being introduced into our NRL in our team in comparison to stronger and better performed sides. We need to be patient with players like Matamua, Tumeth and Webster-Mansfield. They are all talented but need experience and lots of game time.
 
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