Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Careful what you wish for, both Iraq and Libya got a lot worse afterwards 🥶
Yep, Iraqi Colleagues detailed to me how bad things were under Saddam and how Udae was feared.
Then America + us and things got 1,000 times worse. Kinda like going from Sydney to Mad Max, just your family dying....

Okay finally found a hell hole better then the current Tigers situation
 
Yep, Iraqi Colleagues detailed to me how bad things were under Saddam and how Udae was feared.
Then America + us and things got 1,000 times worse. Kinda like going from Sydney to Mad Max, just your family dying....

Okay finally found a hell hole better then the current Tigers situation
Watched that movie about Udae.
What The hell.....
 
Just to be clear I'm not saying Tigers are equivalent to Spurs, I am saying Spurs are much more successful than Tigers and yet Spurs fans are still quite unhappy with the club, for basically the same reasons that Tigers fans are unhappy - lack of success, lack of finals, not feeling their voices heard, no control over the owners, owners who sack coaches and players but never take personal responsibility. Daniel Levy is, like Lee Hagipantelis, quite unpopular and is definitely a businessman before a football man.

The decisions being taken by Spurs owners are roughly equivalent to Tigers - they hooked a successful manager when he started to falter / fell out with the team, then things have gradually gotten worse despite hiring very prominent coaches. Then the best player leaves because he wants to win a premiership.
The mathematical odds of winning a premiership are 16-1. If you did the form, the odds for most clubs are 100-1. The NRL will usually pre-determine each clubs chances, good luck beating that.
All I want from the Tigers is to go out and compete every week at a high enough level that they are a decent chance to knock over anyone on their day and I leave the ground satisfied they tried their best and it was a good game of footy. Week to week. That's footy, that's a great weekend.
Unfortunately, this season, the NRL has even robbed us of that opportunity. How good would it have been to knock over Souths, then Canberra, then the Warriors.... We'd all be holding out hope and heading into next season positive we can improve and make the 8 and we're building to be a force. Unfortunately, no matter how well we played the last 3 weeks, it's all negative for WT. The NRL sucks.
 
The mathematical odds of winning a premiership are 16-1. If you did the form, the odds for most clubs are 100-1. The NRL will usually pre-determine each clubs chances, good luck beating that.
All I want from the Tigers is to go out and compete every week at a high enough level that they are a decent chance to knock over anyone on their day and I leave the ground satisfied they tried their best and it was a good game of footy. Week to week. That's footy, that's a great weekend.
Unfortunately, this season, the NRL has even robbed us of that opportunity. How good would it have been to knock over Souths, then Canberra, then the Warriors.... We'd all be holding out hope and heading into next season positive we can improve and make the 8 and we're building to be a force. Unfortunately, no matter how well we played the last 3 weeks, it's all negative for WT. The NRL sucks.
In the end - only 1 team wins. No percentage there Just bare facts . Just the wooden spoon for the want of a better word right now - sucks
 
John Morris is the tip as Assistant Coach.
1-2 good new assistants will be crucial to helping Benji and the team succeed. So I’d love to see a young guy like Morris with good connection with the players and modern thoughts along with maybe a more mature addition to add some steadiness and also round out the appeal for managers to recommend their players come to us.

Benji to head coach, maybe Robbie to front office and space for 2 new assistant coaches?
 
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1-2 good new assistants will be crucial to helping Benji and the team succeed. So I’lld love to see a young guy like Morris with good connection with the players and modern thoughts along with maybe a more mature addition to add sone steadiness and also round out the appeal for managers to recommend their players come to us.
I would love Morris but I think that's a pipe dream. Why would he leave Souths to come here??

I wonder when the club is going to announce the signings of Sullivan or Sezer or are they having 2nd thoughts now.
 
Well to address your first point - I understand the frustration based around being sold the same vision and continued failure. However, in fairness to the club Ivan was the perfect candidate and if it wasn't for his undiscovered lack of integrity he could've been the guy to turn this club around. We were winning games and competing every week and it would've worked long term. However, he left us high and dry with 3 of arguably the clubs worst ever contracts in history to crawl back to Penrith. That's not on the board that's on Ivan.

Unfortunately, those 3 terrible contracts were long term and transitioned into Madge's tenure. Having Packer, Reynolds and Mbye combine for around $2.6 million dollars and at one point all become unplayable derailed everything and it dug us into a hole in which thankfully Madge had eventually dug us out of. However, because of this results dipped and Madge was struggling to recruit players when we had finally become financially capable of making an impact in free agency. The club making the call on hiring Madge at that time was the right decision - he was a former premiership wining coach who was a no nonsense type and pretty much got rid of the junk. Madge isn't the most marketable coach but his methods work and his success is usually what sold players to join him - when you take the success away from Madge it took away his appeal from players to want to play for him. He pretty much just cleaned up Ivan's mess and helped install a very very successful junior nursery that I think we will all be thanking him for in the next 5 years. So on-field wise yes it wasn't a great period but overall Madge had done some good things as well that has been overlooked.

Benji has now been handed the keys to a successful junior system (arguably one of the best in the league), a mentor with the experience and pedigree in Sheens and has now been given a fresh clean salary cap. Early signs aren't as negative as previously mentioned. Recruitment wise we've attracted some serious talent Api, Papalili, Bateman, Klemmer, Sullivan, Seizer, Fainu brothers and doesn't seem like we're slowing down. All reports are that the culture is shifting and players are buying into the vision Benji is setting. Lately when we've finally had capable halves pairing we've been performing strongly even against the top teams so there's something to take away and build on. Another pre-season with the same team with fresh exciting halves and continued training with Benji in sole control will improve us I believe. I think this is the time we finally start to shift into a strong club but maybe we don't that's Rugby league.

Those first 7 games were due to chemistry issues and players learning to play with each other - I think Matty Johns said it well on his podcast with Cronk. We started to get to a period after those 7 games where our attack was clicking and players understood each other better. This isn't fantasy football you don't just switch up majority of your team and expect immediate success hence why the Dogs are having the same issue. Especially with someone as unique as Api, playing next to him takes time to adjust and our attack looked lost. However, attack isn't our issue right now it's currently our edge defence and I think that should be focussed heavily next preseason if we can clean that up we can make some serious steps.

However, if this Benji era doesn't end up working out best believe heads will roll. Deservingly so.
Here is the thing about the Madge era.

Madge had connections with Souths.
He practically could choose one player, and choose Doueihi.
He knew Adam Reynolds contract would be coming up. He could have set up a raiding. plan.

We never saw that.
We never saw Madge build a gritty side while our talent wasn't available.

I see how the Bulldogs were coming last, but still defending tough. (ok they then fired their staff and moved their players on). But you saw actual defense building. Here we see nothing, no long term improvement.
 
im expecting an announcement tomorrow for sullivan

i mentioned morris about a month ago, basically wanted the lead assistant role, interest from both parties

furner expected to exit stage left, no word on any other assistant

Salty announcement today, so some sugar next with the Sullivan one.
 
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