I wonder if we even tried to sign him , I think he will be a good player . So here we go again watching all these clubs jumping in and getting player that I guess we don’t even try to sign , OH that’s right we got this great talent pool coming through that’s why reserve grade made the finals , OH they didn’t , well the junior teams made the grand finals , OH they didn’t , this obsession to play these kids who are never going to be 1st grade players has to stop , when I was at Penrith the rate was 1 in 100 made it . When ur at the bottom u got to buy hard heads and players who don’t like getting beat then when u start to win u can through a kid in here and thereThe Penrith Panthers have landed a significant coup, luring boom rookie Paul Alamoti to the club from the Bulldogs next season.
The back-to-back champions have been in discussions with Alamoti for the past week, agreeing to terms on a deal that will see the teenager fill the Panthers’ final spot in their top 30 roster for next season.
NRL young gun signs shock deal with Panthers
The Penrith Panthers have lured rookie Paul Alamoti to the club from the Bulldogs next season.www.smh.com.au
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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Tucker
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Reilly has surprised me, albeit with a very limited amount of game time. He is worth persisting with as I said.
Toa can play. He needs an attitude adjustment.
Tupou…he has a lot of holes in his game. If we keep going with him, he requires a shit tonne of attention as he is an identified weak link.
Staines is a threat in space but doesn’t do the hard yakka most modern wingers do.
Our halves are unknowns.
I think in its current form, it’s the worst backline in the comp. How you can say it’s a “very good backline” when they’ve just delivered a spoon baffles me.
I’ll hold 2024 judgement until they’ve had a hard offseason and start playing next year.
crazycat
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We should at least pick a direction.
Seyfarth, we played him a lot... So keep him!
If we are letting him go, don't play him all year.
Just like Joe O... a contract upgrade should not mean were going to punt you 3 months later.
CONSISTENCY!
ancient_magpie
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Has anybody heard how Ngutlik is coming along from I think an acl .He could be the answer on the wing big and fast..
I rate seyfarth , he’s as you say a junior and tiger through and through . But let’s be serious ! No way he’s in any team not named The dogs or dragons top 17 . At a good club he’s named at 21 come Tuesday all year round. At the dogs he will be first picked for the bench .
Look at the riff. They had eisenhuth ( a better seyfarth) garner , and at times when was fit Sorensen all playing Reggie’s .
Maybe at the storm they would extract every last drop of talent out of him as well . Like I said not a knock on him , but if the tigers can’t find a place for Alex in the run on squad , then that’s a good thing . It means hes exactly where in all fairness his talent says he is . 17-21 . And that by any measure makes him a very talented footy player who any club would love to have .
But if the dogs are offering him top 17 money and top 17 positions then he’d be mad to stay here , if only for the money .
The dogs brass would sell thier first born to have the pipeline of forward talent we have coming through . In the forwards we are blessed for the foreseeable future .
We’ve put all our chips in the Fainu/Galvin/ Sullivan basket . So we need to give them the weapons to win some games . Because that pack is well worthy of a top 8 position.
balmain boy
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You're entitled to think that.
You'd be wrong, but that's your right
Magpie_Magic
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Disappointed in To'a.
He owned Holmes one night then not sighted off Nobbys.
Not switched on.
balmain boy
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I'll have some of what you've been smoking
All three if those players are E currently fringe NRL players. All very weak defensively and with limited offensive output to date. Tupou is at least young
balmain boy
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Sums up his career. The occasional bit of brilliance but mostly produces nothing
Tiger_Yoshi
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Signed with the Riff...did we put an offer in?
Tiger_Yoshi
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From memory he is as slow as a snail.
pawsandclaws1
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Good post.
Roar_Power
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By far the worst backline in the NRL. Just trying to polish a turd. You keep Bula, Tupou (and hopefully Staines) and flick the rest to NSW Cup. Lets stop trying to tell ourselves it will all be ok with what we've got and do something we haven't done for over a decade which is go to market and UPGRADE THE BACKLINE!
king_sirro
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Maybe. I would be interested to see him on the left in that case. However, on the right, that left foot helps get him on the outside of his man then he has that great fend. I'd like to see what's more effective, left foot back on the inside, or left foot getting outside his man.
diedpretty
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The NRL making sure the top sides keep all their stars.
The NRL is set to implement a controversial “backflip” clause that will turn the player market on its head from next season, handing power to agents and opening the door for players to renege on contracts.
The Herald has obtained the NRL’s salary cap and contracting model document sent to all clubs and player agents over the past week.
The player market could be flipped on its head.
The most significant change – which will come into effect from November 1 – is the “last right of negotiation” clause added into the agreement that will give incumbent clubs a 10-day period to convince a player not to join a rival club.
The document states that “every player must provide his incumbent club with a last right of negotiation for a 10-day period from the date of notice that the player has received an offer from a rival Club, and that offer has been submitted to the NRL, that he is prepared to accept.”
Under the NRL’s new rules, the incumbent club will be told when a player is willing to accept an offer elsewhere.
They won’t be told the terms of the deal with the rival club, but will then have 10 days to convince the player not to accept the rival offer.
“Every negotiation could have a Daly Cherry-Evans affect,” one player agent, talking on the condition of anonymity to protect his position in the game, told the Herald.
Cherry-Evans, the Manly captain, famously reneged on a four-year, multimillion-dollar deal with the Gold Coast Titans to accept a $10 million “lifetime contract” with Manly in 2015.
“Some managers and recruitment managers team up to make other successful clubs pay a higher price,” the agent said. “It could be crazy giving some managers this much power to influence an outcome.
What’s stopping a player from agreeing with a rival club without any intention of following through? This just opens Pandora’s Box.”
The NRL confirmed the changes in a meeting with clubs on Monday afternoon. Agents were sent the official document last week.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...shock-deal-with-panthers-20230912-p5e43b.html
There have been a number of player movements over the past 12 months which may have not have happened under the model set to be introduced next year.
Stephen Crichton accepted an offer from the Canterbury Bulldogs before hearing an offer from Penrith due to the club’s protracted contract negotiations.
Under the new rules the Panthers would have had 10 days to put forward an offer to Crichton and attempt to convince him to stay.
The new rules will make it almost impossible for a club to announce a player contract before it is released in the media.
The incumbent club will be informed of the player’s intention to sign with a rival club and could use the opportunity to spin the narrative in their favour.
The backflip is back: NRL’s controversial rule change set to transform player market
By Michael Chammas
September 12, 2023 — 7.44pm
The NRL is set to implement a controversial “backflip” clause that will turn the player market on its head from next season, handing power to agents and opening the door for players to renege on contracts.
The Herald has obtained the NRL’s salary cap and contracting model document sent to all clubs and player agents over the past week.
The player market could be flipped on its head.
The most significant change – which will come into effect from November 1 – is the “last right of negotiation” clause added into the agreement that will give incumbent clubs a 10-day period to convince a player not to join a rival club.
The document states that “every player must provide his incumbent club with a last right of negotiation for a 10-day period from the date of notice that the player has received an offer from a rival Club, and that offer has been submitted to the NRL, that he is prepared to accept.”
Under the NRL’s new rules, the incumbent club will be told when a player is willing to accept an offer elsewhere.
They won’t be told the terms of the deal with the rival club, but will then have 10 days to convince the player not to accept the rival offer.
NRL documentation: Last Right of Negotiation clause
Every player must provide his incumbent Club with a last right of negotiation for a 10-day period from the date of notice that the player has received an offer from a rival Club, and that offer has been submitted to the NRL, that he is prepared to accept. In order to give effect to this clause:- a) the player must provide notice to his incumbent Club that he has an offer that he will accept in 10 days’ time (subject to negotiations with his incumbent Club);
- b) the Club can then engage in contract negotiations with the player for a period of up to 10 days, or the Club may waive its rights in writing (at which point the player is free to sign with the rival Club);
- c) the offer from the rival NRL Club must be an official offer and submitted to the NRL Salary Cap Auditor (the contents of which will remain confidential, but the NRL Salary Cap Auditor can provide verification to the incumbent Club that an official offer has been received). The offer must remain open for acceptance for a minimum of 14 days, and for at least 48 hours beyond the expiry of the 10-day negotiation period with the incumbent Club. There is no requirement for the player to disclose the terms of the offer to his incumbent Club;
- d) at the expiry of the 10 days, the player may sign (or reject) the offer from the rival Club.
“Every negotiation could have a Daly Cherry-Evans affect,” one player agent, talking on the condition of anonymity to protect his position in the game, told the Herald.
Cherry-Evans, the Manly captain, famously reneged on a four-year, multimillion-dollar deal with the Gold Coast Titans to accept a $10 million “lifetime contract” with Manly in 2015.
“Some managers and recruitment managers team up to make other successful clubs pay a higher price,” the agent said. “It could be crazy giving some managers this much power to influence an outcome.
What’s stopping a player from agreeing with a rival club without any intention of following through? This just opens Pandora’s Box.”
The NRL confirmed the changes in a meeting with clubs on Monday afternoon. Agents were sent the official document last week.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...shock-deal-with-panthers-20230912-p5e43b.html
There have been a number of player movements over the past 12 months which may have not have happened under the model set to be introduced next year.
Stephen Crichton accepted an offer from the Canterbury Bulldogs before hearing an offer from Penrith due to the club’s protracted contract negotiations.
Under the new rules the Panthers would have had 10 days to put forward an offer to Crichton and attempt to convince him to stay.
The new rules will make it almost impossible for a club to announce a player contract before it is released in the media.
The incumbent club will be informed of the player’s intention to sign with a rival club and could use the opportunity to spin the narrative in their favour.
Tom Shines
Well-known member
The NRL making sure the top sides keep all their stars.
The backflip is back: NRL’s controversial rule change set to transform player market
By Michael Chammas
September 12, 2023 — 7.44pm
The NRL is set to implement a controversial “backflip” clause that will turn the player market on its head from next season, handing power to agents and opening the door for players to renege on contracts.
The Herald has obtained the NRL’s salary cap and contracting model document sent to all clubs and player agents over the past week.
The player market could be flipped on its head.
The most significant change – which will come into effect from November 1 – is the “last right of negotiation” clause added into the agreement that will give incumbent clubs a 10-day period to convince a player not to join a rival club.
The document states that “every player must provide his incumbent club with a last right of negotiation for a 10-day period from the date of notice that the player has received an offer from a rival Club, and that offer has been submitted to the NRL, that he is prepared to accept.”
Under the NRL’s new rules, the incumbent club will be told when a player is willing to accept an offer elsewhere.
They won’t be told the terms of the deal with the rival club, but will then have 10 days to convince the player not to accept the rival offer.
NRL documentation: Last Right of Negotiation clause
Every player must provide his incumbent Club with a last right of negotiation for a 10-day period from the date of notice that the player has received an offer from a rival Club, and that offer has been submitted to the NRL, that he is prepared to accept. In order to give effect to this clause:
The clause, giving the player the ability to change his mind at the end of the 10-day cooling-off period, has piqued the interest of player agents.
- a) the player must provide notice to his incumbent Club that he has an offer that he will accept in 10 days’ time (subject to negotiations with his incumbent Club);
- b) the Club can then engage in contract negotiations with the player for a period of up to 10 days, or the Club may waive its rights in writing (at which point the player is free to sign with the rival Club);
- c) the offer from the rival NRL Club must be an official offer and submitted to the NRL Salary Cap Auditor (the contents of which will remain confidential, but the NRL Salary Cap Auditor can provide verification to the incumbent Club that an official offer has been received). The offer must remain open for acceptance for a minimum of 14 days, and for at least 48 hours beyond the expiry of the 10-day negotiation period with the incumbent Club. There is no requirement for the player to disclose the terms of the offer to his incumbent Club;
- d) at the expiry of the 10 days, the player may sign (or reject) the offer from the rival Club.
“Every negotiation could have a Daly Cherry-Evans affect,” one player agent, talking on the condition of anonymity to protect his position in the game, told the Herald.
Cherry-Evans, the Manly captain, famously reneged on a four-year, multimillion-dollar deal with the Gold Coast Titans to accept a $10 million “lifetime contract” with Manly in 2015.
“Some managers and recruitment managers team up to make other successful clubs pay a higher price,” the agent said. “It could be crazy giving some managers this much power to influence an outcome.
What’s stopping a player from agreeing with a rival club without any intention of following through? This just opens Pandora’s Box.”
The NRL confirmed the changes in a meeting with clubs on Monday afternoon. Agents were sent the official document last week.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...shock-deal-with-panthers-20230912-p5e43b.html
There have been a number of player movements over the past 12 months which may have not have happened under the model set to be introduced next year.
Stephen Crichton accepted an offer from the Canterbury Bulldogs before hearing an offer from Penrith due to the club’s protracted contract negotiations.
Under the new rules the Panthers would have had 10 days to put forward an offer to Crichton and attempt to convince him to stay.
The new rules will make it almost impossible for a club to announce a player contract before it is released in the media.
The incumbent club will be informed of the player’s intention to sign with a rival club and could use the opportunity to spin the narrative in their favour.
this will help the Wests Tigers too…
Bula gets an offer to go to the Roosters and the club can tug at his sense of loyalty for 10 days instead of not knowing about it until it’s too late
Fallen Angel
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I read this forum, I see the amount of duds who play for us that our supporters talk up. It’s hard for supporters to be objective sometimes with so much passion.