Jarome Luai

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Theres one thing that I think will get Jarome Luai here.
Its not just money.
Its not just security through length of contract.
It is the respect he craves.

This guy has been instrumental in Penrith reaching 4 grand finals in a row yet has to sit to the side while everyone praises Nathan. In the WC he led Samao to the final and spoke some shit about besting Cleary, only for Nathan to play like a legend and flog him. In last year's GF he played busted and likely hoped that he would be spoken about as Cronk was when he played busted against Melbourne and won. In the end he had to come from the field with Penrith in deep poop, only to watch Nathan engineer an astonishing comeback and gain all the glory once again. He has acted a little catty towards Cleary with outing his secret relationship and copped a public backhander from his father.

I dont think he'll stay there. Having said that, coming here is a huge risk, however there are some decent players here already and potentially more yet to be unearthed. He is likely weighing up his chances of leading this joint back to the finals and how that will look for his legacy. The fact he will be better rewarded finacially is probably the sealer. My concern is whether he can do it outside that Penrith system.
 
Tucker said:
Theres one thing that I think will get Jarome Luai here.
Its not just money.
Its not just security through length of contract.
It is the respect he craves.

This guy has been instrumental in Penrith reaching 4 grand finals in a row yet has to sit to the side while everyone praises Nathan. In the WC he led Samao to the final and spoke some shit about besting Cleary, only for Nathan to play like a legend and flog him. In last year's GF he played busted and likely hoped that he would be spoken about as Cronk was when he played busted against Melbourne and won. In the end he had to come from the field with Penrith in deep poop, only to watch Nathan engineer an astonishing comeback and gain all the glory once again. He has acted a little catty towards Cleary with outing his secret relationship and copped a public backhander from his father.

I dont think he'll stay there. Having said that, coming here is a huge risk, however there are some decent players here already and potentially more yet to be unearthed. He is likely weighing up his chances of leading this joint back to the finals and how that will look for his legacy. The fact he will be better rewarded finacially is probably the sealer. My concern is whether he can do it outside that Penrith system.
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Very well articulated. If I was him, I'd want to leave too, but the risk of coming here is very high. I reckon it comes down to one thing in the end. Obviously family will be huge, but knowing footy players, fame, success and money is their main motivation. He has to choose the 'toxic' environment of playing under Coach Ivan who can publicly devalue him whenever he wants and get a pass from the media with little resistance as Nathan is the best player in the game and receives favouritism from Dad. Or he can come to the toxic environment of the Tigers where the unknown is huge with leaks and dysfunction from the board, coaches and players. It's hard to say which is the easier option. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
 
rugbygoated said:
Very well articulated. If I was him, I'd want to leave too, but the risk of coming here is very high. I reckon it comes down to one thing in the end. Obviously family will be huge, but knowing footy players, fame, success and money is their main motivation. He has to choose the 'toxic' environment of playing under Coach Ivan who can publicly devalue him whenever he wants and get a pass from the media with little resistance as Nathan is the best player in the game and receives favouritism from Dad. Or he can come to the toxic environment of the Tigers where the unknown is huge with leaks and dysfunction from the board, coaches and players. It's hard to say which is the easier option. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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There’s nothing damned about him staying at Penrith and building on the greatest dynasty since the Dragons in the 60’s. It’s a desperate narrative that some are painting, claiming he can do it himself here. I don’t think that will motivate him in the slightest. The only reason he come here is for money, nothing else. Don’t kid yourself.
 
rugbygoated said:
Very well articulated. If I was him, I'd want to leave too, but the risk of coming here is very high. I reckon it comes down to one thing in the end. Obviously family will be huge, but knowing footy players, fame, success and money is their main motivation. He has to choose the 'toxic' environment of playing under Coach Ivan who can publicly devalue him whenever he wants and get a pass from the media with little resistance as Nathan is the best player in the game and receives favouritism from Dad. Or he can come to the toxic environment of the Tigers where the unknown is huge with leaks and dysfunction from the board, coaches and players. It's hard to say which is the easier option. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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If he sees success here, its likely he will be given the credit for it.
Api, Klem, Paps, Bateman and Bula all played here last year and achieved didly squat.
If he comes here and gets us firing, those guys wont get the credit even though they will be up to their necks in it.
Having said that, he has achieved a fair bit already, but certainly hasnt filled his bingo card yet:
  • Played in a Grand Final? - Yes (4)
  • Won a Premiership? - Yes (3)
  • Won a Clive Churchill Medal? - No
  • Won Dally M Positional Award? - No
  • Won Dally M Player of the Year Award? - No
  • Played SOO? - Yes (7)
  • Won a SOO Series? - Yes (1)
  • Won a Brad Fittler Medal? - No
  • Won a Wally Lewis Medal? - No
  • Played International Football? - Yes (11)
  • Played Tier 1 Test Football? - No
  • Won a WC Final? - No (runner up)
  • Won a Golden Boot Award? - No
Is he more likely to tick some of those off sticking with Penrith? Yes Id say so...
 
Teddy23 posted some mail in the other thread.

What's plan B if Luai stays with Penrith?

I still think we need an experienced half from 2025 on.
 
Tucker said:
If he sees success here, its likely he will be given the credit for it.
Api, Klem, Paps, Bateman and Bula all played here last year and achieved didly squat.
If he comes here and gets us firing, those guys wont get the credit even though they will be up to their necks in it.
Having said that, he has achieved a fair bit already, but certainly hasnt filled his bingo card yet:
  • Played in a Grand Final? - Yes (4)
  • Won a Premiership? - Yes (3)
  • Won a Clive Churchill Medal? - No
  • Won Dally M Positional Award? - No
  • Won Dally M Player of the Year Award? - No
  • Played SOO? - Yes (7)
  • Won a SOO Series? - Yes (1)
  • Won a Brad Fittler Medal? - No
  • Won a Wally Lewis Medal? - No
  • Played International Football? - Yes (11)
  • Played Tier 1 Test Football? - No
  • Won a WC Final? - No (runner up)
  • Won a Golden Boot Award? - No
Is he more likely to tick some of those off sticking with Penrith? Yes Id say so...
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Most of those things he hasn't ticked off are individual awards. He's a backup role player at penrith and is coached by Ivan to play that way, perhaps now he wants some individual recognition? As we have seen with Nicho Hynes and Jack Wighton, you can win a Dally M in a team where not many players take points off you and with less good players around you. At Tigers the only two I could see taking Dally M points off Luai if he were to succeeed would be Koroisau or Bula. Forwards don't get many points unless their name is Haas or Fisher-Harris. I thought he was very unlucky to not get the Golden Boot award last year. Manu got it because of that 400 metre game in the middle of the year when Luai played origin. Luai was essentially the best player of the world cup along with Addo-Carr. Based on all of that. I'd say he is less likely to win individual awards at Penrith. He is not important to penrith. I'd have in order of importance to Penrith: 1. Cleary, 2. Edwards, 3. Yeo, 4. JFH, 5. To'o, 6. Leota, 7. Martin, 8. Luai
 
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rugbygoated said:
Most of those things he hasn't ticked off are individual awards. He's a backup role player at penrith and is coached by Ivan to play that way, perhaps now he wants some individual recognition? As we have seen with Nicho Hynes and Jack Wighton, you can win a Dally M in a team where not many players take points off you and with less good players around you. At Tigers the only two I could see taking Dally M points off Luai if he were to succeeed would be Koroisau or Bula. Forwards don't get many points unless their name is Haas or Fisher-Harris. I thought he was very unlucky to not get the Golden Boot award last year. Manu got it because of that 400 metre game in the middle of the year when Luai played origin. Luai was essentially the best player of the world cup along with Addo-Carr. Based on all of that. I'd say he is less likely to win individual awards at Penrith. He is not important to penrith. I'd have in order of importance to Penrith: 1. Cleary, 2. Edwards, 3. Yeo, 4. JFH, 5. To'o, 6. Leota, 7. Martin, 8. Luai
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Will he score more Dally M points here? Maybe.
Will we make him a better player? Maybe.
One thing is for sure though. We make the semis and he'll get the credit for it....the same has rarely ever been said at Penrith.
 
Tucker said:
Will he score more Dally M points here? Maybe.
Will we make him a better player? Maybe.
One thing is for sure though. We make the semis and he'll get the credit for it....the same has rarely is ever been said at Penrith.
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Yeah I agree with you. That was my point actually if I didn't express it clearly. If he does get us to finals of course it won't be just him. We need to create an environment for him to succeed. And motivate him. He is a player that thrives off of haters. Media, fans, his coach motivates him. But we won't make finals without the million dollar man firing. It can't be a Ben Hunt situation where he's trying hard every week but doesn't have the talent. Or Nicho Hynes who fails in big games largely because of his forwards not playing well enough and the coach playing too attacking and less defensive
 
rugbygoated said:
Most of those things he hasn't ticked off are individual awards. He's a backup role player at penrith and is coached by Ivan to play that way, perhaps now he wants some individual recognition? As we have seen with Nicho Hynes and Jack Wighton, you can win a Dally M in a team where not many players take points off you and with less good players around you. At Tigers the only two I could see taking Dally M points off Luai if he were to succeeed would be Koroisau or Bula. Forwards don't get many points unless their name is Haas or Fisher-Harris. I thought he was very unlucky to not get the Golden Boot award last year. Manu got it because of that 400 metre game in the middle of the year when Luai played origin. Luai was essentially the best player of the world cup along with Addo-Carr. Based on all of that. I'd say he is less likely to win individual awards at Penrith. He is not important to penrith. I'd have in order of importance to Penrith: 1. Cleary, 2. Edwards, 3. Yeo, 4. JFH, 5. To'o, 6. Leota, 7. Martin, 8. Luai
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Most want to win comps & play rep footy.
They don’t care about individual awards.
Luai is a very very good team man.

The reality is for him to choose us it will be 80% cash & length the cash runs for v opportunity.

People are looking way too much into the legacy & prove himself rubbish because us fans are desperate and want winners/quality here. Luai has proven himself regardless what he does next.
 
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