Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

People need to realise the difference between a chairman and a ceo. They also need to understand what makes a really effective chairman, the responsibilities, functions and requirements of corporate governance. I could go through the desired criteria from AICD but the short answer is the polar opposite of LH.
 
momo_amp_medo said:
Had something to do with Barry in my working life.
Could not say I agree with this brainless statement.
Except takes one to know one.
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I wouldn’t say I agree with myself being a knob. Corrupt? Yes. Hey - I’m Latino. But not a knob.

I expect the Premier of the state to be smarter than that - or should I?

Next thing we will have Mark O’Neill back in as GM of football who was dismissed.

We have one chance to get this right.

Glad O’Farrell is only temporary.

All hail King Richo.
 
It’s unlikely Shane Richardson will approve 1 million dollar or higher offers for Luai or AFB based on his recent comments.
I agree with him, you need to plan and accommodate cap space long term, not just be short sighted thinking about the next season or two.
 
Todd Packer said:
A couple of things.
One, if you read the post it wasn't my opinion.
Two, it's Andrew Voss' opinion, an independent observer who has just pointed out what many players and agents would be thinking.

I'll add my own adendum that Richo is currently only a 6 month appointment. He also has a business that would take up most of his time.

Who knows if he'll continue after that.

That's instability. That's uncertainty if you're looking at it objectively.
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But it's obviously an opinion you agree with, hence posting it here. Anyway, I quite like Andrew Voss, but I wouldn't put him down in my list of rugby league business experts. Whatever, as you say it's certainly an opinion.

My point is: tell me what the alternative is? I notice that while you're happy to complain about this "uncertainty" you haven't yet supported any different approach, eg keeping the same bunch of proven losers in charge indefinitely or, say, replacing them mid-season. What do you (or Andrew Voss) suggest the owners should have done differently?

That's before we even get to the palpably ludicrous idea that any player would be more willing to sign for a club that is demonstrably run by muppets than one that is in the process of overhauling its governance.
 
Vicious said:
It’s unlikely Shane Richardson will approve 1 million dollar or higher offers for Luai or AFB based on his recent comments.
I agree with him, you need to plan and accommodate cap space long term, not just be short sighted thinking about the next season or two.
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Be great to see Richardson and Fulton butt heads now! I know who will win out of that.
 
weststigerman said:
We'll see I guess. Paying 1M for Ben Hunt didn't drag St George from the bottom.

The sides that have come good in recent times have been sides with players over performing relative to their pay packet. SJ for Warriors, Walsh/Mam for Broncos etc. None of those guys were on massive money this year.
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Agree with those players. Howfullly bula can be our player like that.

However broncs did have haas on big $$ for eg.
 
Vicious said:
It’s unlikely Shane Richardson will approve 1 million dollar or higher offers for Luai or AFB based on his recent comments.
I agree with him, you need to plan and accommodate cap space long term, not just be short sighted thinking about the next season or two.
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If you saw him talking about the Tigers on James Grahams podcast it won't happen and he also thinks the Tigers are a sleeping giant who shoot themselves in the foot
 
Todd Packer said:
Andrew Voss just made the point that any player who was considering signing with us will probably look elsewhere due to the upheaval and instability. There's just too much uncertainty for any manger to point his players our way.
It's hard to argue he's wrong.
I feel sorry for Benji. The events of yesterday probably mean the squad he has now is the squad he'll have to make work.
I like having Shane Richardson running the show, but it's at the expense of the '24 and 25 seasons.
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Andrew Voss will just have the same knee jerk reaction the media normally do with us and bash the club. Last year we were a laughing stock, now they're all lining up for the inside goss on what's going on. Iv not heard one media personality say it's a move that's needed to happen for a while. Even if we miss out on a few players short term pain for long term gain in my eyes. Andrew Voss isn't a member / fan he's got no skin in the game so he couldn't care less if the Tigers got the spoon for eternity.
 
Todd Packer said:
Andrew Voss just made the point that any player who was considering signing with us will probably look elsewhere due to the upheaval and instability. There's just too much uncertainty for any manger to point his players our way.
It's hard to argue he's wrong.
I feel sorry for Benji. The events of yesterday probably mean the squad he has now is the squad he'll have to make work.
I like having Shane Richardson running the show, but it's at the expense of the '24 and 25 seasons.
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I think it's quite the opposite actually. Our board and CEO were well known basketcases, everyone knew it, yet we continued to plod along with them.
No we've shown accountability, strength and determination to clean things up and putting in place strong leaders in the meantime is a sign that we're moving forwards as a club, and any fears that players may have had about our management should be subdued now.
 
Tiger-ferret said:
You obviously don’t rate luai. He’s worth a mil easy in this halves market and the new salary cap. I’m sick of waiting for a work in progress.
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This is the silly logic on this thread. Blind faith in talented young players over a proven half with heaps of achievements. How many times has a talented next big thing been average come first grade compared to how people rate them? Suaalii a great example given his past year. Penrith lost Isaiya Katoa and people thought it was a massive mistake but look how he played for Dolphins this year. Below average. We are not Penrith. We aren't going to magically have a great juniors base where players in lower grades transition with ease. Penrith dominate in all grades. If people think we don't need a marquee going forward, that's on them. We can accept mediocrity after hitting rock bottom or we can aim higher. How many marquee players have we missed out on? The one time we have a decent chance of landing one and we're putting blind faith in youngsters to drag us out of a back-to-back wooden spoon mess
 
Lestronge said:
It’s not about rating him or not , I just don’t get the whole investing in Fainu Hyperbole last season , for a distinct right turn to luai . … not to mention Sullivan as well , and obviously. Galvin .
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There's three of them. That means that with 2 halves in a team, one of them would miss out anyway. There is no guarantee that all 3 will turn out good. You think starting with 2 young halves at a club which has struggled for a decade is the way to go? No one to guide them around? Fainu I think will most likely be a great player, but Galvin is very young currently (not ready for 2025 to be paired with another early 20s player), and Sullivan has been inconsistent and injured so far in his NRL career. There's nothing wrong with competition in halves
 
Vicious said:
It’s unlikely Shane Richardson will approve 1 million dollar or higher offers for Luai or AFB based on his recent comments.
I agree with him, you need to plan and accommodate cap space long term, not just be short sighted thinking about the next season or two.
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It’s ok we will pay Seyfarth $500k a year instead.

Like cmon signing Luai and AFB aren’t short term views. They are min 3-4yr term of which both will struggle to start for another year (so it’s a 4-5yr view).

Richo will be under significant pressure to have results change year 2-3 if he stays on long term which both players hands down are better than anyone we have in same positions.
 
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Vicious said:
It’s unlikely Shane Richardson will approve 1 million dollar or higher offers for Luai or AFB based on his recent comments.
I agree with him, you need to plan and accommodate cap space long term, not just be short sighted thinking about the next season or two.
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He was just on 9 and mentioned the WTs have no recent history of winning and we have to win games.
 
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