Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Tcat said:
After reading about the dogs offer for Luai, it's safe to say that Gus will pursue anyone from the Panthers and tell the rest of the world he's not interested. Only issue is, will Gus be re-assembling his old troops only to realise that once they are out of the Panthers system, they may not be the players they once were. It may pay off but Dogs supporters should be very wary of Gus trying to replicate a system that may be abit dated by the time its in place. Just an old Panthers MKII team.
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He doesn't have the Penrith nursery, Panthers are in such a good position they loose one and replace with a like for like replacement it's crazy. I hope it bites him in the arse to be honest
 
Unfortunately with us pulling out of the contest to sign AFB .. that could effect the decision of Luai joining us .. we already have the money for Luai in the bank .. and would have to move some others on to accommodate AFB .. but im pretty sure this could work against us. If i was Luai or AFB .. and hearing one or the other wasnt joining, would certainly make me think differently or have my mind thinking should i join now .. !!

I still think that Luai is just waiting his time to see if the Bulldogs are prepared to match our offer .. as him re-joining some of Riff mates and Ciraldo at the Dogs would suit him better.

(once again we're being played .. 😡)
 
Tucker said:
That’s asking for trouble.
If you let a young coach desperate to make his mark have the final say on recruitment and retention everyone would end up over paid. We’d be chasing the 5 best players in the comp and offering them the world.
Cap management would fall to pieces.
The coach should have the final say on what type of players he wants I.e. middles who play big minutes, fast halves, tall wingers, defensive centres etc…then we procure them following guidelines set by the administration.
Managing the cap is the domain of the business world and those budgets have to be looked after by the CEO.
Therefore the coach cannot have final say, the CEO does…as has been demonstrated by Richo pulling the AFB offer.
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Benji will have final say on recruitment/retention within reason.
A good CEO such as Richo will advise on how much a player is worth in relation to our Salary Cap and will not approve paying what he believes is too much for any one player.
A big part of our past failures has been paying much more than the true value when recruiting. I think previous management succumbed to the pressure of being labelled a club that nobody wanted to sign for and succumbed to paying well above the market value for far too many recruits in the past.
It appears someone like Richo will not let that be the case while he’s in charge.
I still can’t see how Luai is worth 1 million dollars per season, but that’s another story.
 
carltonleach said:
He doesn't have the Penrith nursery, Panthers are in such a good position they loose one and replace with a like for like replacement it's crazy. I hope it bites him in the arse to be honest
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But surely .. this is something we should be able to do out in the Campbelltown area as it grows bigger and bigger .. create a nursery and develop kids just for the Tigers .. !!
 
The-moP said:
But surely .. this is something we should be able to do out in the Campbelltown area as it grows bigger and bigger .. create a nursery and develop kids just for the Tigers .. !!
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There is no doubt the Panthers would happily swap 10 of the best current Wests Tigers players aged 16-19 for their best 10 players in the same age bracket if they had the opportunity to do so.
Our top 10 in this age bracket are rated extremely highly and would have no trouble walking into any of the other 16 NRL clubs if we did not have them contracted.
 
Tucker said:
Why won’t he have say? He is the money man.
I can’t see any situation where Benji has full control that makes sense.
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You’d be foolish to think he wouldn’t have any say that’s not what I meant - more so that Benji regardless of the situation will have final/majority say and if he wants a certain player I don’t think Richo should be involved in telling him who’s right or isn’t for Benji’s vision on how he wants to orientate this football team.

From a financial perspective he should have majority say in regards to what we offer and how long we offer due to his expertise and significance experience in that field though. However, in terms of the particular players I don’t think he should have much input in that department as he’s not the one coaching the team.

There’ll be times where Richo will give his opinion and it’s up to Benji to agree/disagree - and I think we saw that first hand with AFB.
 
Dennisspicer1 said:
Get stuffed.

Is that acceptable language for you to understand,
And not complain about my writing ability, if I have not met your writing standards, please feel free to insult me again.
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LOOK...I am genuinely confused and have no intention to insult. DO I capitalise the first letter of the word when starting a new sentence? OR the first word entirely?

NONE of this answers my question. FORGIVE me.
 
Question for the forum just curiosity - if you had the option of offering Luai to 2 deals.

1 - 4 years for $4.8 million
2- 5 years for $5.5 million

Which deal do you do? Cause if true that Dogs have offered that extra year at a reduced $ per season. Would you be tempted giving that extra year and dropping 100k each season from our previous offer so we still marginally beat the Dogs offer?

That might be the deal to get it done - not saying we should do it just curious on everyone’s thoughts?
 
teddy23 said:
Question for the forum just curiosity - if you had the option of offering Luai to 2 deals.

1 - 4 years for $4.8 million
2- 5 years for $5.5 million

Which deal do you do? Cause if true that Dogs have offered that extra year at a reduced $ per season. Would you be tempted giving that extra year and dropping 100k each season from our previous offer so we still marginally beat the Dogs offer?

That might be the deal to get it done - not saying we should do it just curious on everyone’s thoughts?
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I would offer him the deal which gets it done. We need a recruitment win and the bigger the better. This one would be huge for WTs.
 
All clubs have a Head of recruitment or something the same ?
The Head Coach talks to the CEO
and if agreed upon that they want to offer a player a contract they notify the Head of recruitment who goes through the figures and informs them how it can be done.
e.g
Do we have the money ?
Do we have the space ?
Do we need to let players go to make this happen ?

All are involved in some way in getting the players they want.
 
teddy23 said:
Question for the forum just curiosity - if you had the option of offering Luai to 2 deals.

1 - 4 years for $4.8 million
2- 5 years for $5.5 million

Which deal do you do? Cause if true that Dogs have offered that extra year at a reduced $ per season. Would you be tempted giving that extra year and dropping 100k each season from our previous offer?

That might be the deal to get it done - not saying we should do it just curious on everyone’s thoughts?
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I'd go option 1.
We have been burnt far too many times by LONG expensive contracts and in the scheme of things the extra $100k per year wouldn't even cover a minimum wage top 30 contract, but having an extra $1.2m in year 5 and the extra flexibility, would provide much better value.
 
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