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Not sure.

But they would all feel that there is an attempt to somehow change the identity of the country and cancel the influence of probably many parts of its development under British colonisation by a date change.

Probably a reflexive push back against that.
This is where I'm 50/50. I can understand that 26th of January is a significant day for Aboriginals that is no doubt linked to the arrival of the First Fleet which led to genocide and forced colonisation of land lived on by Indigenous people. So, a date change I can agree to. But I'm also completely against the redefining of our Aussie culture which has been developed over 200 years by British Western civilisation as well as other cultures from Europe or Asia in the 1900s. If Australia was inevitably colonised by France, we could have a very different culture, language and history. We were actually founded by the Dutch in the 1600s. How different our culture could have been. Similar to South Africa perhaps with the White and Indigenous majority. But none of that matters, it's about reality. We are a multicultural nation now. We have great culture. Let's not ruin that by removing important historical influences
 
Why would anyone want our national day to be celebrated on a day that proportion of our country doesn't feel it can celebrate?
My be because there only less than 2-3 % of the population, and we celebrate there days 27 days a year , and I am sure a larger proportion don’t feel like they like want to do that
 
Can't stand the word 'woke', overused like the
word 'anti-semitic'. Now which one of you
bogans on here are going to be wearing rubber
aussie flip flops with flags & cheap plastic cups
made in China? Lmao. Such a beat-up holiday
Its our National day of celebration you clown.
Such a chip on your shoulder because someone spoke mean to you once…grow up.
 
Everyone has a right to express themselves. This isn't a communist society... yet. But that also means that you are not free from consequences. There's a thing called hate speech that is redefined every day which can be as simple as refusing to accept new language that is absurd and an insult to reality and science. By 'keep your head down' I didn't mean everyone should be robots, I mean go about your work and day without seeking attention and sooking about your situation constantly when there are far bigger issues at hand
Seeking attention, could also be called raising awareness....is how we learn and progress.
Yes I agree with you to an extent , there are fruitloops out there wasting peoples time, but there are different people with differing opinions on things that are valid and their "sooking" or raising awareness is how we learn
Your bigger issues may not be everyones bigger issues
 
I heard on the radio that Woolworths have a aboriginal advisory body and that is why they scrap aust day stuff
Well if that is the reason I'm 100% against it. Intention is everything. People should still be able to celebrate their country while a date change is still a possibility. I don't think someone purchasing some thongs with a Union Jack on them automatically makes them a racist that hates Indigenous people
 
Why would anyone want our national day to be celebrated on a day that proportion of our country doesn't feel it can celebrate?

Because like it or not the identity of the nation was forged on that day....................

.....all the good and not so good.

We can't cancel it or disown it.

None of us would be here and everything we know about the Australian identity would not be here without the momentous events that began on that day .

Any reconciliation with aboriginal peoples must come from a genuine respect........not as an attempt to disown our history or attempt to rewrite it in order to appease special interest groups.

Any acceptance that that day was in effect an aggressive invasion when most of the continent was unsettled mean that everything has to be undone and everyone must leave (bar full breed aboriginals )because it is illegitimate.

I feel for the tremendous sense of loss aboriginal people must have felt when their world was turned upside down with European settlement. I can only imagine what that felt like.

But subsequently they and everyone else have lived under British and later local rule for better or worse.

We have to recognise the positive contributions that began on that day also.

Its always going to be part of our identity.
 
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I heard on the radio that Woolworths have a aboriginal advisory body and that is why they scrap aust day stuff

Was it Ray Hadley or Ben Fordham? Haha. The
truth is, nobody was buying the cheap trinkets,
they're a business & were losing money off the
merchandise. People on the right complain about
cancel culture, but they're quick to cancel Woolies.
Same happened to Kmart last year when they
decided to pull Australia day items - the truth
is, is that they just weren't selling. Peter Dutton
was calling for a boycott of Woolies just the
other day, look what happened to this Woolies
store in QLD early this morning. Bloody activists

 
My be because there only less than 2-3 % of the population, and we celebrate there days 27 days a year , and I am sure a larger proportion don’t feel like they like want to do that
Their days, our days?

So you are ok with 2-3% of OUR population not being able to celebrate the national day?
 
I don't really remember it being a thing either. I think 88' The Bicentennial is when it took off and went hard core in the 90s. The lamb ads of the 2000's and now apparently its a lefty talking point to be outraged about for a couple of weeks in January before they go back to not giving a shit. 1st world problems. Whatever one can find to give themselves some sort of self importance I guess.
It’s a carryover from their failed attempts to cancel Christmas the month previous. They go quiet then for a while until the Kings Birthday or something similar.
 
Seeking attention, could also be called raising awareness....is how we learn and progress.
Yes I agree with you to an extent , there are fruitloops out there wasting peoples time, but there are different people with differing opinions on things that are valid and their "sooking" or raising awareness is how we learn
Your bigger issues may not be everyones bigger issues
Good point. Being woke is not just about 'learning' or educating though. It is an attitude of unnecessary and overexaggerated progressivism. The opposite of bogans/boomers who are too unwilling to change. People in privileged positions are usually the ones 'protesting' these things. University professors, celebrities, public servants, politicians. Many of these types have no idea of the reality that faces everyday Aussies that work hard for little in comparison and come from areas which aren't as privileged yet speak for them. It is arrogance. There are levels to raising awareness. I have joined groups for social issues in society such as government law changes as well as social justice issues. What is wrong, is using sport as an avenue to push 'inclusiveness'. Sport is an escape from the harsh realities of life. Not a place to bring politics in to which brings division and disagreement and takes away from the thing we came to, basically destroying the whole purpose of why people watch sport, for entertainment. It is the same with watching movies, the movie industry is being corrupted with woke revisionism of redefining storylines to suit a political agenda. Even video games. Things people use as an escape route from the world today. There's a difference between being a good virtuous person and being woke. A good virtuous person leads by example through their action and backs up what they say. They also don't shove their opinions (right or wrong) in other people's faces. A woke person is a hypocrite who typically is consistent with their values only in principle but not practically. They force their view on others and if you go against the hivemind or trend then you are cancelled for having a different opinion. They are very hypocritical. Having a neighbour who is exactly like this makes it even more clear to me
 
What proportion?
Activists?
I live in aboriginal communities. They are not saying it. Who are you referring to?
Why does it matter who is saying it? If there are a group of people saying the day is a day they can't celebrate then why would you want our national day on that day?
 
Because like it or not the identity of rhe nation was forged on that day....................

.....all the good and not so good.

We can't cancel it or disown it.

None of us would be here and everything we know about the Australian identity would not be here without the momentous events that began on that day .

Any reconciliation with aboriginal peoples must come from a genuine respect........not as an attempt to disown our history or attempt to rewrite it in order to appease special interest groups.

Any acceptance that that day was in effect an aggressive invasion when most of the continent was unsettled mean that everything has to be undone and everyone must leave (bar full breed aboriginals )because it is illegitimate.

I feel for the tremendous sense of loss aboriginal people must have felt when their world was turned upside down with European settlement. I can only imagine what that felt like.

But subsequently they and everyone else have lived under British and later local rule for better or worse.

We have to recognise the positive contributions that began on that day also.

Its always going to be part of our identity.
It was forged long before that day, 236 years ago
 
Good point. Being woke is not just about 'learning' or educating though. It is an attitude of unnecessary and overexaggerated progressivism. The opposite of bogans/boomers who are too unwilling to change. People in privileged positions are usually the ones 'protesting' these things. University professors, celebrities, public servants, politicians. Many of these types have no idea of the reality that faces everyday Aussies that work hard for little in comparison and come from areas which aren't as privileged yet speak for them. It is arrogance. There are levels to raising awareness. I have joined groups for social issues in society such as government law changes as well as social justice issues. What is wrong, is using sport as an avenue to push 'inclusiveness'. Sport is an escape from the harsh realities of life. Not a place to bring politics in to which brings division and disagreement and takes away from the thing we came to, basically destroying the whole purpose of why people watch sport, for entertainment. It is the same with watching movies, the movie industry is being corrupted with woke revisionism of redefining storylines to suit a political agenda. Even video games. Things people use as an escape route from the world today. There's a difference between being a good virtuous person and being woke. A good virtuous person leads by example through their action and backs up what they say. They also don't shove their opinions (right or wrong) in other people's faces. A woke person is a hypocrite who typically is consistent with their values only in principle but not practically. They force their view on others and if you go against the hivemind or trend then you are cancelled for having a different opinion. They are very hypocritical. Having a neighbour who is exactly like this makes it even more clear to me
Public servants are privileged people with no idea about everyday life? That's an incredibly ignorant take. You can give a RN a serve next time you’re in hospital about how much of a woke elitist they are.
 

Just found this article on the interwebs.

Good article WC. It's a bit old (2018) but good
background on the day. Would be interesting
to see the results of this poll 6 years on in 2024

"Australians don't appear to be particularly
fixated on maintaining the 26 January date.
A recent poll found that 56% of those
surveyed didnt mind when it was held as long as
there was a national day of celebration. Nearly half (49%) believed Australia Day should not be on a day that is offensive to indigenous people".
 
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