Australia Day

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cochise said:
I'm not fighting for anything mate, I am stating an opinion. I will be involved in Australia Day tomorrow, others say it isn't a day they can celebrate. I don't think listening to those opinions, compromising and finding a way so everyone can be included is that big a deal. It appears that you disagree which is your right.
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If you think you'll find anything on the planet that everyone will be happy with, you are describing a Utopia. That does not exist.

Driving a wedge isn't the way this will be sorted. Parroting others grievances won't help. Sometimes you have to ignore the noise.
 
weststigers said:
If you think you'll find anything on the planet that everyone will be happy with, you are describing a Utopia. That does not exist.

Driving a wedge isn't the way this will be sorted. Parroting others grievances won't help. Sometimes you have to ignore the noise.
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I'm not trying to drive a wedge, just think the actual date of Australia Day is irrelevant for me and others find it offensive, so I am happy for it to be another day. I actually like the idea others have raised of not attaching it to a date and having something like the last Friday in January or first Friday in Feb, something like that would work well in my opinion and we could have an Australia Day long weekend every year.
 
cochise said:
I'm not trying to drive a wedge, just think the actual date of Australia Day is irrelevant for me and others find it offensive, so I am happy for it to be another day. I actually like the idea others have raised of not attaching it to a date and having something like the last Friday in January or first Friday in Feb, something like that would work well in my opinion and we could have an Australia Day long weekend every year.
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Tradition is important. It's what makes things meaningful. The day is the day. It will never change. It happened.

Don't entertain it. Just ignore it.

Stop pulling everything down. We don't need to change everything because a few people have an issue. It's a slippery slope.

You've got a good heart, but you're being played.
 
We can also reflect on how far Australia has progressed in relation to the rights of women. We have some way to go yet but my father reminded me that when he began teaching in the late 50s, female teachers doing the same job received 75% of the pay he did. In addition, if they were pregnant they lost their jobs.

A big shout out to Gough Whitlam who changed the landscape of Australia with his many changes to Australia including -

Abolished the White Australia Policy and passed the Racial Discrimination Act
Made the pill affordable and accessible
Implemented free higher education
Legislated for no fault divorce
Abolished conscription and the death penalty
Introduced Medicare to allow universal healthcare for all Australians
Championed Aboriginal Land Rights returning land to the Gurindijii people in the NT
Reopened the equal rights pay case, championed the rights of women to work and to be fairly compensated
The first Western Leader to visit China.

Gough Whitlam during WW2 was a navigator in 13 Squadron RAAF which flew Ventura and Hudson bombers against the Japanese. Whitlam was a huge man, well over 6ft, so you can imagine getting out of the cockpit in an emergency would be difficult.
 
dazza65 said:
Not mine but totally agree.
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Vandalising statues of Captain Cook and Queen Victoria to protest colonisation is more evidence of the total IGNORANCE of these FOOLS.

This land mass was NEVER going to stay isolated and disconnected from the rest of the world. The Dutch, Portuguese and French had all been here - and the French arrived just days after the First Fleet. If it wasn't the British, it could have and would have been any number of other countries.

As for their vandalism....the vandals need to do a bit of reading. Captain Cook had been dead for nearly 10 years before the First Fleet arrived and Queen Victoria reigned 50 years after the arrival of the First Fleet.... from 1837 and fleets stopped arriving in 1840 so she had nothing to do with the First Fleet either.

Australia Day as a national holiday is celebrated on January 26th because that's the date the 'Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 became law and the term ‘Australian citizen’ was used for the first time. (The First Fleet actually arrived about the 17th ....and then they moved locations to what is now Sydney Cove on January 26th 1788).

We are ALL beneficiaries of the arrival of the Europeans - and I am grateful it was the British who settled.

I will be celebrating Australia Day - loudly!”
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Thank you for thses great words
 
Can’t change the past. Keep Australia Day as today and rebrand it as First Fleet day. First Nations to vote on a First Nations Day they choose. Then have a vote for Australia Day.

Pretty easy.

Quite personally, I would do these dates sequentially and make it like Carnival in Brazil.

Oh Tito, you magnificent marketing genius!
 
Mines starting out good.... Got me. Weetbix and peaches

We will head into the city later on, hope to get a ride on one of. The vintage double deckers buses over the coat-hanger... Then we'll.play it by ear see what we find,. Some lunch somewhere no doubt maybe check out the ferry races... Might find a protest or two 🤣
Have a goodn everyone
 
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hank37w said:
Wish everyone could.
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If you were to look historically on a date to be offended by you'd have thousands of years to search. For example, if a Jewish person had a birthday on September 1, would that mean they don't celebrate their birthday because it was the start of World War 2? No. But you could go down the rabbit hole of endlessly arguing how it 'offends' someone and is insensitive to celebrate on the same date. It's different when it's recent. 9/11 a great example
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
We can also reflect on how far Australia has progressed in relation to the rights of women. We have some way to go yet but my father reminded me that when he began teaching in the late 50s, female teachers doing the same job received 75% of the pay he did. In addition, if they were pregnant they lost their jobs.

A big shout out to Gough Whitlam who changed the landscape of Australia with his many changes to Australia including -

Abolished the White Australia Policy and passed the Racial Discrimination Act
Made the pill affordable and accessible
Implemented free higher education
Legislated for no fault divorce
Abolished conscription and the death penalty
Introduced Medicare to allow universal healthcare for all Australians
Championed Aboriginal Land Rights returning land to the Gurindijii people in the NT
Reopened the equal rights pay case, championed the rights of women to work and to be fairly compensated
The first Western Leader to visit China.

Gough Whitlam during WW2 was a navigator in 13 Squadron RAAF which flew Ventura and Hudson bombers against the Japanese. Whitlam was a huge man, well over 6ft, so you can imagine getting out of the cockpit in an emergency would be difficult.
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He certainly made some changes but you forgot to add 'sent the country broke' lol... that's why he was booted.
Met him on a few occasions in informal situations and found him to be the most pompous person imaginable.
 
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