Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

rugbygoated said:
Interesting to see Woodsy tip us for the spoon this season again. I can't see it happening. With a fresh style and new presence at the club, I think it will motivate the boys to play harder. I think the double spoons were a stale culture of not changing things and having toxic figures having too much power. I still think we finish bottom 3 tbh but I've got Raiders finishing last. Fogarty will be the most under pressure player in 2024, given Rapana, Whitehead and Papali'i are retiring joining Croker, and other than Tapine, the rest of the team are very inexperienced
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Raiders won't finish last to much talent in that team
 
Odessa said:
Raiders won't finish last to much talent in that team
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I think after the Dragons they have one of the worst rosters. Don't have a fullback. Rapana is a winger and plays at FB. Xavier Savage has to be there or a new guy called Chevy Stewart. Rookie 5/8 in Kaeo Weekes. Fogarty with all the pressure on him. Woolford/Levi hooker not too good. Spine out of 10 is a 4. Forward pack is ok with Tapine but Papali'i has regressed heaps. Hudson Young was consistent until origin last year then fell off a cliff. Other than that, they don't have a lot of talent. The biggest thing for me is their boys club culture. It's very similar to Dragons and successful teams don't have the old boys involved messing things up and doing only what they want (similar to how Benny Elias is here). I also think Manly might finish near the bottom and that's not because I think Brooks will fail, but mainly because I think DCE won't be able to replicate his great 2023 season and Seibs is a fraud
 
rugbygoated said:
I think after the Dragons they have one of the worst rosters. Don't have a fullback. Rapana is a winger and plays at FB. Xavier Savage has to be there or a new guy called Chevy Stewart. Rookie 5/8 in Kaeo Weekes. Fogarty with all the pressure on him. Woolford/Levi hooker not too good. Spine out of 10 is a 4. Forward pack is ok with Tapine but Papali'i has regressed heaps. Hudson Young was consistent until origin last year then fell off a cliff. Other than that, they don't have a lot of talent. The biggest thing for me is their boys club culture. It's very similar to Dragons and successful teams don't have the old boys involved messing things up and doing only what they want (similar to how Benny Elias is here). I also think Manly might finish near the bottom and that's not because I think Brooks will fail, but mainly because I think DCE won't be able to replicate his great 2023 season and Seibs is a fraud
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manly as always hinges on turbo being fit, the addition of Brooks at 6 as opposed to Schuster or Jacob Arthur makes them a much better team than last year. Seibold however can't coach but if DCE and turbo stay fit they make the 8 easy and could grab 4th or 5th
agree with dragons finish last
think sharks might miss the 8
 
rugbygoated said:
I think after the Dragons they have one of the worst rosters. Don't have a fullback. Rapana is a winger and plays at FB. Xavier Savage has to be there or a new guy called Chevy Stewart. Rookie 5/8 in Kaeo Weekes. Fogarty with all the pressure on him. Woolford/Levi hooker not too good. Spine out of 10 is a 4. Forward pack is ok with Tapine but Papali'i has regressed heaps. Hudson Young was consistent until origin last year then fell off a cliff. Other than that, they don't have a lot of talent. The biggest thing for me is their boys club culture. It's very similar to Dragons and successful teams don't have the old boys involved messing things up and doing only what they want (similar to how Benny Elias is here). I also think Manly might finish near the bottom and that's not because I think Brooks will fail, but mainly because I think DCE won't be able to replicate his great 2023 season and Seibs is a fraud
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Interesting perspective. I have Manly top 6.
 
Tito Santana said:
Tito reckons we shouldn’t be bothering with the following players and remove them immediately and let other kids have a crack as the following are lame:

- Toa
- Staines
- Kepaoa
- Tumeth
- Feledy
- Tupou

Sukkar intrigues me for some reason.
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I see what Tito is saying, but I also wonder who he would utilise in lieu of;
Toa - Starting Right Centre
Staines - Starting Right Wing
Kepaoa - Small forward/Outside back utility
Tupou - Starting Left Wing

I also think Sukkar has got something...
 
I really hope (which may sound weird) that we play in the same style as our previous game. I hope for a better outcome but similar style. The way we played in the first 20-30 minutes was pretty good footy, patient, consistent and most importantly reliable (besides Tupou ofc). It’s when we lose our direction for e.g Api and Sezer where we look lost. Don’t really put to much value on trial games as all previous winnings tend to not amount to much but a decent win here will put us in good stead for the seasons start. In all honesty a landing of 10-14 would be a very good season in my opinion. Comparing to the teams that made the top 8, who will fall out and the bottom 8 who will rise, I just don’t think we have the roster right now to compete. Where do you think we’ll land?
 
AdelaideTiger said:
I see what Tito is saying, but I also wonder who he would utilise in lieu of;
Toa - Starting Right Centre
Staines - Starting Right Wing
Kepaoa - Small forward/Outside back utility
Tupou - Starting Left Wing

I also think Sukkar has got something...
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Sukkar does have something doesn’t he? And I’m not even Arab.

Ahem, I would replace the above oxygen thieves with:

Toa to Taafaape
Staines to Lobb
Kepaoa to Sukkar
Tupou to Alimalo
 
Roar_Power said:
Interesting perspective. I have Manly top 6.
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I'm backing Brooksy to have a really good season but I think their issues are quite deep. Culturally they have some issues. Bad coach. And they have too many players on big money. DCE (1.1 million). Turbo (1 mil), Jurbo (950K), Olakautu (850K for 6 years), Schuster (800K) and now Brooks on 700K
 
Tito Santana said:
Sukkar does have something doesn’t he? And I’m not even Arab.

Ahem, I would replace the above oxygen thieves with:

Toa to Taafaape
Staines to Lobb
Kepaoa to Sukkar
Tupou to Alimalo
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I agree with your Staines and Kepoa choices but I haven’t seen Alimalo play and I’m hoping Starford has a big season.
 
Vicious said:
As much as I hate them both, Manly and Souths are both definite for the top 4.
If Hunt stays injury free the Dragons will jump a few spots, just hope we can jump more.
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If Souths haven't fixed their player unrest they could drop dramatically. Illias a big issue too, he just isn't a halfback IMO.
 
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