Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

JB9918 said:
I wouldn't be opposed to JAC in for the next 2 years & moving Tupou onto the Dolphins straight away.

Keeps us at 29 in the top 30.

Sign Angus Crighton from the Chooks to make 30.

Hopefully release Tumeth as well to free the spot back up.

I would like to keep Matamua & give him a crack at 13.
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If Matamua is playing 13, It will be in Ressies (At best)

He's done nothing in any grade in 3 years to warrant his hype here,
reinforced by him seemingly being overlooked by the coaches...
 
Vicious said:
Does anybody think we should have a look at the possibility of signing Angus Crichton ?
I know he’s already rejected us, but he certainly now looks on the outer at the Roosters and he may have a point to prove.
Like any potential signing the cost would most likely be an issue, but if he wasn’t asking for ridiculously money he could be worth taking a risk on for 2024 and 2025.
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I'm actually a huge fan but he hasn't been the same since tbat mushrooms incident. I wonder if there's been some permanent damage which may have physical ramifications.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
He’s on the outer because he’s been ravaged with injuries and is going to union.
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Don't think the Western Force (who tried to sign him) won't be around and neither will the Rebels. The Brumbies and Qld won't sign him and the ARFU won't want another fiasco in the same year the Lions tour. If he's looking for another pay day he'll have to look at ESL.
 
Vicious said:
It’s been Melbourne Storm’s successful formula for many years.
Other teams trash become their treasure.
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The Storm also have the best coach in the League to get the most out of ”past it“ or average players they acquire ,,,the Tigers have rookie coaches
 
Tom Shines said:
Compared to Bellamy yes …what about the other three Tigers coaches ?
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The other 3 are all rookie coaches.
The one thing Bennett and Bellamy in particular appear to do better than most know how to man manage each player in their squad and keep them all motivated.
There is nothing to say a rookie coach cannot do the same, it comes down to personality, care factor and ego.
Many coaches choose to ignore players they believe are under performing or not contributing how they would like. The better coaches work even harder with these players to make them feel wanted, a part of the team and give them the motivation to work harder to get to where they need to be.
 
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re: Crichton, its obvious he has fallen down the ranks at the Roosters. They would probably not stand in his way if he wanted to leave...So I'd be offering him a 2 year deal, guaranteed starting 17 position and a mid size contract of not more than $400-$500k ...thats better than being #18 every week
 
Vicious said:
The other 3 are all rookie coaches.
The one thing Bennett and Bellamy in particular appear to do better than most know how to man manage each player in their squad and keep them all motivated.
There is nothing to say a rookie coach cannot do the same, it comes down to personality, care factor and ego.
Many coaches choose to ignore players they believe are under performing or not contributing how they would like, the better coaches work even harder with these players to make them feel wanted, a part of the team and give them the motivation to work harder to get to where they need to be.
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Bellamy has proven himself as one of the best coaches ( if not the best) coach in the game over the past 20 years … I rate him higher than Bennett over this period…

One of his strengths is that time and time again.. he has show that he can get the best performances out of past it or below average players …which is obvious when several have left to go to other clubs and cannot replicate the same form…

Comparing the ability of this Tigers coaching staff, including John Morris, to get similar results is very optimistic … if a player is getting moved on due to form concerns, then in my view given where our staff currently are, I don’t believe they should be targeting them..
 
Tiger_Yoshi said:
re: Crichton, its obvious he has fallen down the ranks at the Roosters. They would probably not stand in his way if he wanted to leave...So I'd be offering him a 2 year deal, guaranteed starting 17 position and a mid size contract of not more than $400-$500k ...thats better than being #18 every week
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That’s exactly how I see it.
Obviously if it was a chance to happen you would hope we do our due diligence to check there is no injury concerns or other issues that will prevent him from playing close to or at his best.
There are virtually no proven quality back rowers available anytime soon, so he could be well worth taking a risk on at the right price.
Rumours are he’s heading to overseas rugby, well you never know what could change his mind of you don’t ask.
 
Tiger_Yoshi said:
re: Crichton, its obvious he has fallen down the ranks at the Roosters. They would probably not stand in his way if he wanted to leave...So I'd be offering him a 2 year deal, guaranteed starting 17 position and a mid size contract of not more than $400-$500k ...thats better than being #18 every week
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Why would you offer him a guaranteed starting spot? You don’t offer that to anyone.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Why would you offer him a guaranteed starting spot? You don’t offer that to anyone.
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If Angus Crichton plays anywhere from 80-100% of his ability then he no doubt starts for us.
The Roosters are stacked for back row options and are clearly not interested in him moving forward. Wests Tigers don’t have that same luxury.
 
Vicious said:
That’s exactly how I see it.
Obviously if it was a chance to happen you would hope we do our due diligence to check there is no injury concerns or other issues that will prevent him from playing close to or at his best.
There are virtually no proven quality back rowers available anytime soon, so he could be well worth taking a risk on at the right price.
Rumours are he’s heading to overseas rugby, well you never know what could change his mind of you don’t ask.
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Fantastic there's more than one bloke here who sees a player that could get a million+ in a number of places
coming to play for the spooners for half that....

I love fantasy football
 
batboy said:
Fantastic there's more than one bloke here who sees a player that could get a million+ in a number of places
coming to play for the spooners for half that....

I love fantasy football
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Where’s his guaranteed million coming from ?
I realise overseas rugby has plenty of money to spend, but they are not just going to hand it out to anyone. He’d most likely play as a centre in rugby, what does he do better as a rugby centre than a thousand other players ?
As a back rower in league he still offers good, size and mobility, he can also be aggressive when he’s switched on.
 
Tom Shines said:
Bellamy has proven himself as one of the best coaches ( if not the best) coach in the game over the past 20 years … I rate him higher than Bennett over this period…

One of his strengths is that time and time again.. he has show that he can get the best performances out of past it or below average players …which is obvious when several have left to go to other clubs and cannot replicate the same form…

Comparing the ability of this Tigers coaching staff, including John Morris, to get similar results is very optimistic … if a player is getting moved on due to form concerns, then in my view given where our staff currently are, I don’t believe they should be targeting them..
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Yeah I feel the same...our coaches have enough on their plates with them all being inexperienced to having to work with a squad thats had no success at all the last few year bar winning two spoons

They dont need players with baggage on top of what theyre already having to deal with
 
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