Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

pawsandclaws1 said:
I would suggest Lomax is a good player, a possible SOO player. But we are in the early days of our new centre combination of Olam and Faataape. I would like to give them the opportunity to form a combination before potentially paying out $800k In addition, we have Makasini, Galvin, Pole and co so we need to keep our powder dry. Paying overs may compromise our development programme.
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Also I don't know why so many think we are strapped for cash in our cap. It was said multiple times last year how much space we have left and we have added nothing.

We didn't spend all our money on Luai, the club was looking to sign Moses to a contract of the same value and re-sign Brooks + Doueihi. We spent less on all of our halves than we were going to and arguably have ended up with better value.

We didn't spend all our money on Olam either, the club released Nofa for pretty much the exact same value. We did upgrade Bula though.

All those moves were being made while also entertaining the thought of Addin Fonua Blake at 800k. However, we decided then to focus on our junior forwards instead. most clubs operate on a % of cap space spent per position. i.e., 30% on your spine, 40% on forwards, 30% on backs.

So on that logic id guess that AFB would of tipped the scale in the direction of too many high paid forwards, so the club backed off in case anything else of value popped up in the backs. (Us constantly being linked with different quality outside backs also shows to me that we are indeed looking to invest in at least 1 more quality outside back). Richardson is also frequently talking about moving more players on this year and he wouldn't do that if he didn't have ideas of who he wanted in to replace them.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
That is a good reply. I like Lomax and it may be that he ends up at WTs. If so, I won't be disappointed.
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The best part is that he loves the Tigers and I believe it is another case of Benji being one of his favourites growing up. He isn't going to come here to shirk his responsibilities and make a quick buck. He already has the contract and as everyone can see he still isn't content, this isn't about money for him at all.. he has a point to prove.
 
teddy23 said:
I posted late last year that we approached him and were knocked back as Turuva had stated he only wanted to negotiate with Penrith at that moment of time and If negotiations stalled we’d be the first club contacted.

Seems like we’re at that stage…… still think it’s a ploy to get Penrith acting quicker but if he was to leave then we’ll be in box seat with not only the Api connection but Luai too.
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I agree, my first thought was this was just to get Penrith to hurry up. However, the more I think about it the more I can see him just feeling slighted and genuinely considering his options. Taylan May got a deal before he did and has been out for a year and been nothing but bad press.

Turuva has come out repeatedly saying he loves Penrith and wants to stay yet is the last one they are dealing with and they are maxing out at 350k a season which I believe both Tago and May are getting more than.
 
jrtiger said:
forget Lomax, Turuva comes from a winning system, is younger, comes with less baggage and is cheaper. he would walk backwards into that right centre position. special talent. no doubt Api would be on the phone to him and his Uncles trying to get him across.
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Just get either of them and we are a much more competitive team. Get both of them and suddenly we are very real threats. Turuva pricing himself at 500k signals to me he is content being a winger in the short term. Would still be very happy if we land Turuva and miss Lomax though.

A back 5 of:
1. Bula
2. Turuva
3. Olam
4. Lomax (Kicker)
5. Staines

Would at least be on par with the best back 5 we have ever had. Staines 500k / Naden 500k / Starford $? contracts end next year and that's 1.2 - 1.3 mil of cap space free for the backs at least. Lomax / Turuva / Lobb could fill those positions for the exact same value. The best part about signing those 2 is that it is a lot easier to bring any junior winger with potential on the other side without ruining the balance of the team.

Turuva / Makasini / Lomax could compete for centre spots in future once Olam is either injured / cooked / gone. Our backline would also be quite flexible if an injury occurs at any time. Turuva can easily shift to Centre / Fullback mid game and Lomax could easily shift to Wing / Fullback
 
FrodoTBaggin said:
There have actually been rumblings for a few weeks that NAS wants out and club officials will be more than happy to see the back of him. Honestly a higher chance than them landing Tulagi.
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Time will tell.
Have been rumblings for nearly 12mths.
Most of it is BS
If Storm wanted him gone he would’ve been gone by now just like Olam.
I could be wrong but I just don’t see him heading to Sydney if he was to leave.
 
FrodoTBaggin said:
www.smh.com.au

He just scored his first hat-trick … and now Turuva is on the market

The agent of the NRL’s 2023 rookie of the year recently met with the Panthers to inform them that he would now seek offers from rival clubs after negotiations stalled.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au

Just came out that Turuvas manager informed penrith that he will be now talking to other clubs, seems penrith have stalled for too long. We need to get him as he can play anywhere in the back 5. Hopefully Api's connection gets him over the line.
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Wanted him before he made his nrl debut.
He can play center, wing and fullback - has a high work rate.

Bet May’s cash needed to be topped up impacting what they can offer Turuva.
 
teddy23 said:
The notion he’s a bad trainer is the most made up lie in the league, I still don’t know where that came from.

He’s actually arguably the hardest trainer at the club from what I’ve been told and is the ultimate professional with his diet/training.

EDIT: I don’t know the reasons why we’re chasing him but we’re after quality in the backline and that’s certainly him.
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Lomax and Suruva in.

Tupou and Toa out.

That'll do me....
 
teddy23 said:
1. Jahream Bula
2. Charlie Staines
3. Justin Olam
4. Zac Lomax
5. Sunia Turuva

With the long term vision of:

1. Jahream Bula
2. Alex Lobb/Luke Lualili
3. Heamasi Makasini
4. Zac Lomax
5. Sunia Turuva

Sign me up!

It’s the long weekend…. let me dream a bit.
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If you’re the easter bunny make sure they are dropped off at the Wests Tigers sheds
 
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FrodoTBaggin said:
Just get either of them and we are a much more competitive team. Get both of them and suddenly we are very real threats. Turuva pricing himself at 500k signals to me he is content being a winger in the short term. Would still be very happy if we land Turuva and miss Lomax though.

A back 5 of:
1. Bula
2. Turuva
3. Olam
4. Lomax (Kicker)
5. Staines

Would at least be on par with the best back 5 we have ever had. Staines 500k / Naden 500k / Starford $? contracts end next year and that's 1.2 - 1.3 mil of cap space free for the backs at least. Lomax / Turuva / Lobb could fill those positions for the exact same value. The best part about signing those 2 is that it is a lot easier to bring any junior winger with potential on the other side without ruining the balance of the team.

Turuva / Makasini / Lomax could compete for centre spots in future once Olam is either injured / cooked / gone. Our backline would also be quite flexible if an injury occurs at any time. Turuva can easily shift to Centre / Fullback mid game and Lomax could easily shift to Wing / Fullback
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Surely this can't be right...
 
teddy23 said:
1. Jahream Bula
2. Charlie Staines
3. Justin Olam
4. Zac Lomax
5. Sunia Turuva

With the long term vision of:

1. Jahream Bula
2. Alex Lobb/Luke Lualili
3. Heamasi Makasini
4. Zac Lomax
5. Sunia Turuva

Sign me up!

It’s the long weekend…. let me dream a bit.
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Landing those 2 could have another effect on our squad. It might just add that little extra motivation for our senior brigade - Klemmer, Api, Bateman, Olam - knowing that finals well achievable during the next 2-3 years plus help with retention of Uto, Pole, iPap.
 
Roar_Power said:
Surely this can't be right...
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It's definitely around there.

The Naden Figure of 500k is as close to 100% right as you can get, we just took over his bulldogs contract.

We took over Charlie's last contract which was again 500k. I doubt he took too much of a cut considering he was talked to by a few clubs. I'd actually expect him to be closer to 400k.

There is also no chance Starford is on lower than 300k which takes us to that 1.2 minimum I mentioned. If he is on 350k then that makes 1.3.

So i'd wager my guess is pretty solid.

Edit: Just remember a lot of those panthers players have left the club on overs because that's what it took to get them away from the club. Naden has never been a 500k player, but the Dogs needed to pay him that much to be appealing.
 
FrodoTBaggin said:
It's definitely around there.

The Naden Figure of 500k is as close to 100% right as you can get, we just took over his bulldogs contract.

We took over Charlie's last contract which was again 500k. I doubt he took too much of a cut considering he was talked to by a few clubs. I'd actually expect him to be closer to 400k.

There is also no chance Starford is on lower than 300k which takes us to that 1.2 minimum I mentioned. If he is on 350k then that makes 1.3.

So i'd wager my guess is pretty solid.

Edit: Just remember a lot of those panthers players have left the club on overs because that's what it took to get them away from the club. Naden has never been a 500k player, but the Dogs needed to pay him that much to be appealing.
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We took over Naden's dogs contract but surely we didn't extend him for 3-4 years at $500k per season. That's shocking!
 
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