LIVE GAME Round 4 vs. Eels

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Vicious said:
Well for the past 100 years anyone who is 10 or 20kgs lighter than the player they are tackling has used their weight as leverage to pull the bigger man to the ground.
It hasn’t been a problem for the past 100 years and quite often the smaller man would slide down to the legs to make a one on one legs tackle which has always been perfectly safe. When tackling you cannot stop a much bigger and more powerful man from behind one on one without this type of action.
Just another way to try and make playing the game near impossible for smaller players, why ?
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If you re-read what you have wrote you will get your answer. Sliding down to the legs is safe. A hip drop tackle does not involve sliding down to the legs. It is maintaining your grasp around the waist and dropping your body onto the legs.
Why is it an issue now? Because it wasn't being done prior to wrestling coaches teaching the now outlawed method and we are too often seeing the consequences of the action.
 
gregjm87 said:
If you re-read what you have wrote you will get your answer. Sliding down to the legs is safe. A hip drop tackle does not involve sliding down to the legs. It is maintaining your grasp around the waist and dropping your body onto the legs.
Why is it an issue now? Because it wasn't being done prior to wrestling coaches teaching the now outlawed method and we are too often seeing the consequences of the action.
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A simple solution is to classify a one on one legs tackle as a dominant tackle and not allow the attacking player a fast play the ball without allowing time for the defender to get to marker.
 
Vicious said:
A simple solution is to classify a one on one legs tackle as a dominant tackle and not allow the attacking player a fast play the ball without allowing time for the defender to get to marker.
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That’s not what Galvin did though.

He grabbed around the waist and used his body weight (he came off the ground) to pull Kelma down.

It is dangerous to the ball carrier & good reason why it’s being phased out of the game
 
resilience was personified by 15 men who wore black white and gold this afternoon.

six sets on our own line, a 10-3 penalty count, our starlet in the sin bin followed by an 11 point turnaround, and a field goal to clinch it. some performance. the “reject” from PNG via Melbourne goes alright too.

football, bloody hell.
 
Vicious said:
A simple solution is to classify a one on one legs tackle as a dominant tackle and not allow the attacking player a fast play the ball without allowing time for the defender to get to marker.
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there is no need for your solution. Just make the tackle around the legs as they have done for years, not by dropping their body weight onto someones legs.
 
We’ve got a couple of very winnable games in the next few weeks against the Phins and Drags. Short turnaround this week will be a challenge. Could see some changes on the bench.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
We’ve got a couple of very winnable games in the next few weeks against the Phins and Drags. Short turnaround this week will be a challenge. Could see some changes on the bench.
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this weekend is going to be super tough. five day turnaround plus travelling is going to be a test. Twal back helps the middles but Sullivan likely coming onto the left edge makes the assignment tougher.

Redcliffe won’t be an easy task. they hang in games and play to their strengths, which is the speed and exuberance of their backline. our middles should run riot thru the central corridor, but backing up after a brutal Easter Monday is going to be arguably our toughest challenge this year.
 
TigerNeddyK said:
He has not fallen off mine, and I’m absolutely certain that Benji has not forgotten about him… the way they are treating him with kid gloves in reserve grade suggests to me he is well within their plans..
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Good.
I meant the fanbase though...no one is putting him in their teams for next year.
 
Vicious said:
Well for the past 100 years anyone who is 10 or 20kgs lighter than the player they are tackling has used their weight as leverage to pull the bigger man to the ground.
It hasn’t been a problem for the past 100 years and quite often the smaller man would slide down to the legs to make a one on one legs tackle which has always been perfectly safe. When tackling you cannot stop a much bigger and more powerful man from behind one on one without this type of action.
Just another way to try and make playing the game near impossible for smaller players, why ?
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Its not smaller players who are doing it. Its generally forwards...Galvin has a big frame also. Its poor technique that leads to bad injury. We need it stamped out.
 
Vicious said:
A simple solution is to classify a one on one legs tackle as a dominant tackle and not allow the attacking player a fast play the ball without allowing time for the defender to get to marker.
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I dont see how this is relevant.
A hip drop tackle is not your classic legs tackle in any way, shape or form.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
We’ve got a couple of very winnable games in the next few weeks against the Phins and Drags. Short turnaround this week will be a challenge. Could see some changes on the bench.
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might need to use the whole bench this week
 
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davey_farrell said:
kent was hating we won on 360 tonight, he was grimmicing when even Rothfield was very com limentary on the tigers win today. Very quick to say Galvin was in big trouble for his indiscretion. Yes im biased but cmon Kenty have a smile on your face for a few tigers wins
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And Kent is a member too.
Who'd have thunk?
 
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Tucker said:
I dont see how this is relevant.
A hip drop tackle is not your classic legs tackle in any way, shape or form.
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It’s relevant as coaches are not wanting their players to make traditional legs tackles as when doing this the attacking player can generally get up and play the ball before the legs tackler can get back to marker, meaning the defence is now a man down for the next play.
Allowing the referees to classify a one on one legs tackle as a dominant tackle and allowing the defender a fair & reasonable amount of time to get back to marker before the attacking player can play the ball will eliminate the need for these hip drop types of tackles.
 
Vicious said:
It’s relevant as coaches are not wanting their players to make traditional legs tackles as when doing this the attacking player can generally get up and play the ball before the legs tackler can get back to marker, meaning the defence is now a man down for the next play.
Allowing the referees to classify a one on one legs tackle as a dominant tackle and allowing the defender a fair & reasonable amount of time to get back to marker before the attacking player can play the ball will eliminate the need for hip drop types of tackles.
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A hip drop tackle begins as an upper body ball and all attempt that transforms into some hybrid rodeo wrestle to quickly get them to ground using your weight and gravity against them.
The legs tackle issue you raise is a subject for another debate.
 
Now I never got an answer to my question last week so will ask again.
After the game where do the team go to celebrate/commiserate these days ? Is it Wests Ashfield or somewhere else ?
 
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