Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon shot, bystander dead - assassination attempt

[balmain boy]

People might recall Alex Jones was sued for arguing Sandy Hook school massacre was staged.

There's a dude now who is reciprocating and filing a lawsuit against prominent people who are arguing the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon shooting was staged.

Two completely different scenarios.

One had undeniable facts at the time the comments were made, and made to a large audience.

The other are raising questions immediately after an event, questions that need to be answered so the public know what really went down.

However I severely doubt the truth will ever come out, regardless of what happened. Too much politics and power plays in the US, it's sickening....

 

[Stevec]

I lived and worked in USA on 3 different occasions 73/74 in Sanfrancisco then Connecticut in 87 then Florida in 89/90
Enjoyed my time there but its seems the place is just plain crazy now
Nearly 400 mill from which to pick a president and they come up with the old man with early onset dementia vs the sleazebag .Wow what a choice !

 

[colinbh]

There is in fact zero evidence it was rigged but nothing is ever Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon’s fault right? Lose the vote? Election is rigged. Courts say that's rubbish? Courts are rigged...

Hunter Bidens laptop cover up. Joe Biden getting more black votes than Obama. Video showing democrat official stuffing bags of completed voting forms into a street drop box. Close call ? No problem there are some uncounted boxes under that desk. 100% democrat.
The potus of any party has a constitutional duty to ensure that elections are above board. President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was carrying out his duty.
Do I think that the election was above board. No way.

 

[TillLindemann]

Two completely different scenarios.

One had undeniable facts

🤣

Both were clearly real shootings.

 

[colinbh]

Maxwell Smart had a saying which is quite fitting here....

Surely now Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will come down hard and ban all automatic guns in the US if he wins?

And its just so bizarre that someone who's a convicted criminal, rapist and paedophile, has cheated on his wives, and sent many businesses into bankruptcy can somehow be redeemed as a 'hero' because he got clipped by a bullet. He's not a hero, he's a deranged psychopath, who may or may not be a victim of a horrible crime. He is still an evil, selfish man of bad character.

The whole event hasn't been conclusively proven to be a staged publicity stunt or the real deal yet either. There are so many 'coincidences' with this situation. Police and SS officers advisers informed of guy with gun on roof, no one does anything. Footage of SS starting to herd people away from behind Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon moments before the shots take place. The snipers on the roof observing the shooter taking position but waiting for him to shoot first before they pull the trigger in response? Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon being allowed to stand up and pose for a photo seconds after being 'shot'. Last time a gun was pulled at one of his events he was whisked off stage in seconds. That an American flag somehow was moved in seconds and was suddenly above him on a different angle than it was at previously. The fact he put his hand to his ear doesn't disspel that he could have added some fake blood either. There are just so many questions that need to be answered....

The saddest part of the event has also largely been ignored, the passing of Campeorale, who was shielding his family when fatally wounded. He should be front page news, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon

You should really get back on your medication.

 

[TillLindemann]

The whole event hasn't been conclusively proven to be a staged publicity stunt or the real deal yet either. There are so many 'coincidences' with this situation. Police and SS officers advisers informed of guy with gun on roof, no one does anything. Footage of SS starting to herd people away from behind Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon moments before the shots take place. The snipers on the roof observing the shooter taking position but waiting for him to shoot first before they pull the trigger in response?

If this is the angle you're going, it's indicative of a wider conspiracy for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to be shot, rather than being a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon-organised publicity stunt. There is not a man alive who would willingly arrange such a stunt at such a high risk of death.

But I don't think there's any conspiracy by either side, I think more likely it's just a lone nutter and the things you point out above are just human failings, because life is not a movie. People make mistakes, people get scared, people want others to make decisions.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Read Mein Kampf first before you comment on Hitlers ideology.

Frankly...he had a very complicated and nuanced political ideology and way too many wikipedia pages and news outlets wrongly label it as far right. So complicated in fact that he hated Marxists because he though it was a Jewish plot to covertly capitalise the world (quite a contradictory set of values), yet he was particular to ensure the separation of the socialist ideology and the Marxist ideology because on the surface they seemed so similar. It's an interesting topic if you dig deeper and stop reading the headlines.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding on what Right and Left political ideology actually is and where it came from. These concepts are rooted in the 1700's in France. Well before Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini etc. Racism plays no role in either ideology. It is a separate set of values that can form part of ones world view.

For instance, he did not outright nationalise the economy, however he said - and these are his own words:

"I tell German industry for example, “You have to produce such and such now.” I then return to this in the Four-Year Plan. If German industry were to answer me, “We are not able to”, then I would say to it, “Fine, then I will take that over myself, but it must be done.” But if industry tells me, “We will do that”, then I am very glad that I do not need to take that on."

This is private control in name only. It is the total erosion of ownership because the state can tell you what to produce and when. This is hardly capitalist in nature, but rather socialist.

If you want to change it from right wing to Nazism, then fair enough, but Nazism is not very right wing economically or socially if you happen to understand what right and left actually mean in a historical and ideological context...not just the last 20 years of political discourse.

Today's "doctors' wives" "issues" are 99.999% non-LEFT, their ideology is more like a party of doctors'/solicitor'/accountants' wives".😉
Their issues are anti-nuclear, AGW, LGBTQ, pro-S/W, gender/pronouns, abortion, anti-free speech, pro-busters, anti Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)... ... ...
IMHO, the "doctors' wives' party" departed the LEFT with Gramsci/Lukaczs/Adorno/Foucault.

 

[Dr_Ice]

After 2 days of back and forth I'm sure you're all much closer to accepting each other's opinions as correct.

The comment in this thread I can agree with most. Could have been all finished in one page, the same people arguing their same position over and over with no chance of changing.

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

there was plenty of evidence the 2020 election was rigged .The trouble was all the courts are run by lefti judges pai for by Sorous.

Hahaha

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Hunter Bidens laptop cover up. Joe Biden getting more black votes than Obama. Video showing democrat official stuffing bags of completed voting forms into a street drop box. Close call ? No problem there are some uncounted boxes under that desk. 100% democrat.
The potus of any party has a constitutional duty to ensure that elections are above board. President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was carrying out his duty.
Do I think that the election was above board. No way.

Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's campaign team had ample opportunity to present credible evidence of voter fraud in court - before many republican appointed justices no less - and failed dismally at ever turn.

And for your education, voting is administered at the state, rather than federal level in the US. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon doesn't have a constitutional duty to ensure the integrity of elections. I would avoid using phrases you evidently don't understand.

 

[Betterdays22]

Read Mein Kampf first before you comment on Hitlers ideology.

Frankly...he had a very complicated and nuanced political ideology and way too many wikipedia pages and news outlets wrongly label it as far right. So complicated in fact that he hated Marxists because he though it was a Jewish plot to covertly capitalise the world (quite a contradictory set of values), yet he was particular to ensure the separation of the socialist ideology and the Marxist ideology because on the surface they seemed so similar. It's an interesting topic if you dig deeper and stop reading the headlines.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding on what Right and Left political ideology actually is and where it came from. These concepts are rooted in the 1700's in France. Well before Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini etc. Racism plays no role in either ideology. It is a separate set of values that can form part of ones world view.

For instance, he did not outright nationalise the economy, however he said - and these are his own words:

"I tell German industry for example, “You have to produce such and such now.” I then return to this in the Four-Year Plan. If German industry were to answer me, “We are not able to”, then I would say to it, “Fine, then I will take that over myself, but it must be done.” But if industry tells me, “We will do that”, then I am very glad that I do not need to take that on."

This is private control in name only. It is the total erosion of ownership because the state can tell you what to produce and when. This is hardly capitalist in nature, but rather socialist.

If you want to change it from right wing to Nazism, then fair enough, but Nazism is not very right wing economically or socially if you happen to understand what right and left actually mean in a historical and ideological context...not just the last 20 years of political discourse.

The definitions of left and right have evolved from the 18th century though. If we can't agree on the semantics of those 2 terms then its impossible to agree on where Hitler falls. If your sole measure of left and right is government intervention, then yes Hitler is left wing. As is Donald Trumps border policy or climate policy, but it isnt, because there are a core set of ideologies that have evolved with the terms "left" and "right".

 

[weststigers]

The definitions of left and right have evolved from the 18th century though. If we can't agree on the semantics of those 2 terms then its impossible to agree on where Hitler falls. If your sole measure of left and right is government intervention, then yes Hitler is left wing. As is Donald Trumps border policy or climate policy, but it isnt, because there are a core set of ideologies that have evolved with the terms "left" and "right".

Oh i see...so if they have evolved, can you show me the definitions of what left and right means to you so we can agree on a foundation for debate?

I think you'll find they mean the same now as they did before, but people gut feel the real meanings and label things right or left based on minimal scrutiny.

 

[Tito Santana]

With all these wings, who’s playing fullback?

I’ve never understood the wings.

Anyhow, vote Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon!

The King!

 

[Betterdays22]

Oh i see...so if they have evolved, can you show me the definitions of what left and right means to you so we can agree on a foundation for debate?

I think you'll find they mean the same now as they did before, but people gut feel the real meanings and label things right or left based on minimal scrutiny.

So your telling me that the current accepted definitions for left and right have had zero change since the 18th century? Hitlers obsession with the Aryan race and purging impurity with a return to traditional values is an extreme right ideolgy. His means of achieving this certainly have features of the left

 

[Tucker]

I said to my wife on election night 2016 that he'd be assassinated during his term, so I was surprised he made it to 2020.

My 12 year old daughter greeted me with "guess what happened to Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon?" when I awoke yesterday morning. I didn't have him being shot on my bingo card.

To those of you that are disappointed at the poor aim of the alleged shooter: you really need to have a long hard look at yourself.

There’s a lot of scum out there mate who hate someone they don’t know so unconditionally they will publicly celebrate their death.
The ramifications of this guys death could have been terminal for that country and by extension, the rest of us.
We should ALL be glad the assailant missed.

 

[Kaito]

I’ve done it over and over. You are too pig ignorant to understand someone else’s viewpoint.
I agree, go away, you bore me to death you rancid moron. Blocked.

How does this guy tucker have a pass to constantly
call people names like moron, retard, idiot etc etc.
on here. Most self-absorbed prick around haha.

Making it all about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is ridiculous, it's the US
as a whole that has a history of violence. This
assassination attempt is typically American, with already four presidents assassinated.

It is a uniquely violent society, both internally and
in the way it acts around the world. Acting as if it
started with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and making this partisan is
gaslighting people about American realities...

 

[Tucker]

So your telling me that the current accepted definitions for left and right have had zero change since the 18th century? Hitlers obsession with the Aryan race seems to me the purest form of traditionslism and conservatism there is.

Was Hitler really left or right? Or was he some sort of twisted hybrid and something completely different and to his own?

 

[Kaito]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will win, nothing will change unfortunately.
This trend of hero worshipping politicians is pathetic.

 

[Tucker]

How does this guy tucker have a pass to constantly
call people names like moron, retard, idiot etc etc.
on here. Most self-absorbed prick around haha.

Making it all about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is ridiculous, it's the US
as a whole that has a history of violence. This
assassination attempt is typically American, with already four presidents assassinated.

It is a uniquely violent society, both internally and
in the way it acts around the world. Acting as if it
started with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and making this partisan is
gaslighting people about American realities...

Same way you get to be racist so much I guess.

 

[Kaito]

Same way you get to be racist so much I guess.

That's not true bro. You know that's not true lol