John Bateman #268

[king_sirro]

On the odd occasion this is correct. If we drilled down into every squad members penalties and infringements we'd be coming up with similar claims.

Absolutely disagree. Batemans penalties are blatant and absurd stupidity. Real team demoralising plays

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Comparing those players to Bateman is laughable

One team. One dream.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

I'm not too sure anyone is saying he doesn't put in. I'm probably his harshest critic and even I say he tries hard.

Just on the penalties situation, its more the timing and complete stupidity of the penalty that's the problem. He has a habit of doing it on the 4th tackle when we have just had a good defensive set, and it often looks completely deliberate. Take our first game this year against Canberra, we defend our line, Canberra don't look like scoring, and on 4th tackle Bateman gets up at marker and deliberately hits the ball out of the player playing the ball. It was mind boggling. They then kick the goal, and score next set after bad defence by Toa. 8 nil just like that because of brain dead stupidity. We should have had the ball coming out of our end at nil all, instead it's 8 nil.

He has costs us badly like that all year. The amount of times I've screamed "bloody 4th tackle and he does it again". They aren't 50/50 penalties, they are blatant and sell sabotaging.

Responsibility lies with coaching staff

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Absolutely disagree. Batemans penalties are blatant and absurd stupidity. Real team demoralising plays

Maybe trying too hard.????

 

[king_sirro]

Responsibility lies with coaching staff

And then have taken action this week

 

[king_sirro]

Maybe trying too hard.????

I don't think so. I fail to see how deliberately giving penalties away late in the tackle count can be put down to trying too hard

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Deliberately giving away penalties??? - is that confirmed???

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

And then have taken action this week

Hence the player will remain the scapegoat not the coaching staff... gotta blame someone I guess

 

[Tucker]

It's simply not facts at all. It's your opnion

LOL this is where you are showing your true colours.
YOU have been waging a war on ths bloke and what you are saying is proven to be bullshit.
Your hatred for the guy is masking you from what he is doing well and that makes your claims laughable, simplistic and very very misleading.
Cut it out.

 

[Tucker]

Absolutely disagree. Batemans penalties are blatant and absurd stupidity. Real team demoralising plays

Well thats because you hate the guy and refuse to see reason.
I suggest people on here stop listening to your bullshit and look into his game with a neutral perspective.
Even I was surprised how wrong you have been.

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

LOL this is where you are showing your true colours.
YOU have been waging a war on ths bloke and what you are saying is proven to be bullshit.
Your hatred for the guy is masking you from what he is doing well and that makes your claims laughable, simplistic and very very misleading.
Cut it out.

Or maybe you can never accept your opinion isn't fact & pretty ironic for you to be claiming about someone else waging a war on a player when your hatred for Galvin is pathetic & laughable.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

LOL this is where you are showing your true colours.
YOU have been waging a war on ths bloke and what you are saying is proven to be bullshit.
Your hatred for the guy is masking you from what he is doing well and that makes your claims laughable, simplistic and very very misleading.
Cut it out.

Its called Cognitive Dissonance

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Or maybe your ego is too damn big that you can never accept your opinion isn't fact & pretty ironic for you to be claiming about someone else waging a war on a player when your hatred for Galvin is pathetic & laughable.

Is that true Tucker?

 

[Tucker]

Or maybe your ego is too damn big that you can never accept your opinion isn't fact & pretty ironic for you to be claiming about someone else waging a war on a player when your hatred for Galvin is pathetic & laughable.

I am using verifiable sttistics. Its not opinion. What you are saying IS OPINION and its all incorrect.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

So you would be happy for Galvin to leave according to statistics?

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

I am using verifiable sttistics you clown. Its not opinion. What you numbskulls are saying IS OPINION and its all incorrect.

You use statistics to suit your narrative yet when people bring up statistics for Stefano you say statistics never tell the full picture so which one is it mate?

 

[Tucker]

Is that true Tucker?

Of course not. I am not waging a war on the man. He is playing well above his experience level, is very busy and is having a go. Ive said as much all year.
I am saying he is not a 5/8 and facts are facts. We have won 3 games with him runnin our attack - which is the second worst in the competition. I dont want his sacked or his contract torn up...I simply want to see others in that role so we can compare ability as we have Luai coming next year and we need to know who to partner him with for maximum effectiveness.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Cant argue with that. Afterall 3 cannot fit into 2. Luai, Galvin and Latu

 

[Tucker]

So you would be happy for Galvin to leave according to statistics?

No and Ive expressed why many many times

 

[Tucker]

You use statistics to suit your narrative yet when people bring up statistics for Stefano you say statistics never tell the full picture so which one is it mate?

Ive never said that, Ive maintaned that for a bloke who wants near a mill per season, he is not producing anywhere near enough to warrant paying him that.