Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

WestsEffTheRest said:
He comes with a lot of controversy, do you think we as a club can get the best out of him? We are already in the media as it is.
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It’s a great question.

When I was told about this I questioned the fit and my source corrected me pretty quickly.

The culture Benji introduced this preseason is very family oriented focussed and for all the boys to be together extremely similar to Penrith. Benji continuously promotes all the players family members to all meet each other and to form a togetherness within the squad. He also apparently frequently organises a lot of club events to help push this.

Very similar to what the Bulldogs have done this year and it’s paying dividens with Critta and Ciraldo pushing a top 4 charge. Their effort areas and ability to play for each other is so evident and it’s winning them games.

The formula works, you just need the right players to build it.

The reason Luai was thrown the serious money he was even before his latest form push which has silenced a lot of people questioning his price tag was to be the face of this vision Benji is trying to push. Look at the impact Critta has made at the Dogs, by all accounts Luai is the face of that culture and can provide x2 of what Critta is from a leadership perspective.

Now to answer your question more directly, even though Taylan off the field may have made mistakes which I’m not looking past or accepting. But he’s also reportedly a very local leader and big on family and not letting the boys down which is probably why Benji likes the fit and thinks it might work. He’s also a serious serious talent.

I’m not saying it’s right but one of May’s incident crossed my brain when a couple of seasons ago the Penrith boys were out and Cleary was getting harassed at some bar. From all reports this bloke wouldn’t leave Nathan alone pestering him all night and was told politely to bugger off. The bloke kept grabbing Cleary and May come from behind and pulled him off. Protective instincts with his team mate kicked in and he got charged for that from memory. I’m not saying it’s right and May should be more publicly aware, however I can definitely see Taylan being the type of player that would fit into what Benji is trying to push and could take his game to another level with more responsibility.
 
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teddy23 said:
It’s a great question.

When I was told about this I questioned the fit and my source corrected me pretty quickly.

The culture Benji introduced this preseason is very family oriented focussed and for all the boys to be together extremely similar to Penrith. Benji continuously promotes all the players family members to all meet each other and to form a togetherness within the squad. He also apparently frequently organises a lot of club events to help push this.

Very similar to what the Bulldogs have done this year and it’s paying dividens with Critta and Ciraldo pushing a top 4 charge. Their effort areas and ability to play for each other is so evident and it’s winning them games.

The formula works, you just need the right players to build it.

The reason Luai was thrown the serious money he was even before his latest form push which has silenced a lot of people questioning his price tag was to be the face of this vision Benji is trying to push. Look at the impact Critta has made at the Dogs, by all accounts Luai is the face of that culture and can provide x2 of what Critta is from a leadership perspective.

Now to answer your question more directly, even though Taylan off the field may have made mistakes which I’m not looking past or accepting. But he’s also reportedly a very local leader and big on family and not letting the boys down which is probably why Benji likes the fit and thinks it might work. He’s also a serious serious talent.

I’m not saying it’s right but one of May’s incident crossed my brain when a couple of seasons ago the Penrith boys were out and Cleary was getting harassed at some bar. From all reports this bloke wouldn’t leave Nathan alone pestering him all night and was told politely to bugger off. The bloke kept grabbing Cleary and May come from behind and pulled him off. Protective instincts with his team mate kicked in and he got charged for that from memory. I’m not saying it’s right and May should be more publicly aware, however I can definitely see Taylan being the type of player that would fit into what Benji is trying to push and could take his game to another level with more responsibility.
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Love your posts teddy

Wish the club performed as well as you post lol
 
teddy23 said:
It’s a great question.

When I was told about this I questioned the fit and my source corrected me pretty quickly.

The culture Benji introduced this preseason is very family oriented focussed and for all the boys to be together extremely similar to Penrith. Benji continuously promotes all the players family members to all meet each other and to form a togetherness within the squad. He also apparently frequently organises a lot of club events to help push this.

Very similar to what the Bulldogs have done this year and it’s paying dividens with Critta and Ciraldo pushing a top 4 charge. Their effort areas and ability to play for each other is so evident and it’s winning them games.

The formula works, you just need the right players to build it.

The reason Luai was thrown the serious money he was even before his latest form push which has silenced a lot of people questioning his price tag was to be the face of this vision Benji is trying to push. Look at the impact Critta has made at the Dogs, by all accounts Luai is the face of that culture and can provide x2 of what Critta is from a leadership perspective.

Now to answer your question more directly, even though Taylan off the field may have made mistakes which I’m not looking past or accepting. But he’s also reportedly a very local leader and big on family and not letting the boys down which is probably why Benji likes the fit and thinks it might work. He’s also a serious serious talent.

I’m not saying it’s right but one of May’s incident crossed my brain when a couple of seasons ago the Penrith boys were out and Cleary was getting harassed at some bar. From all reports this bloke wouldn’t leave Nathan alone pestering him all night and was told politely to bugger off. The bloke kept grabbing Cleary and May come from behind and pulled him off. Protective instincts with his team mate kicked in and he got charged for that from memory. I’m not saying it’s right and May should be more publicly aware, however I can definitely see Taylan being the type of player that would fit into what Benji is trying to push and could take his game to another level with more responsibility.
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Bullshit!

Cleary approached the victim to delete a video - and Taylan dog-shotted gim from behind...

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teddy23 said:
If May and Turuva both join the club in 2025 that’s a serious upgrade on our outside back depth.

Both players also very familiar with Luai and Api who are gonna be the two most influential players in our spine next year running the attack.

For low $ it’s a no brainer for me.
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How likely is it though? Have we actually spoken with him and he shown an inclination to come here?
 
Teddy not question your sources or their correct intentions of the Benji's family orient focus, Taylan May is a first grade player no doubt, but is a hot head who belted his missus, let's not forget that fact.
 
teddy23 said:
The media will never tell two sides of the story, whatever makes the player look worse will be put into the article to sell stories. I doubt all he did was record a video.

Once again not saying it’s right, but just highlighting his protective instincts over his teammates.
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100% agree with first sentence
 
teddy23 said:
Their recruitment strategy seem to be pretty obvious - recruit players from good systems and hopefully they buy into what Ciraldo is trying to do at the dogs and create a positive hard working environment.

Unfortunately, the players they're signing or looking at this year are the rejects of those teams that might not actually change on-field results and are pretty ordinary. Jaemon Salmon, Blake Taafe, Connor Watson, Drew Hutchinson, Siosiua Taukeiaho all come from strong systems however personally don't think they'll change much in terms of their ladder position from this year.

They did this last year but with talented players and it hasn't changed much if not made things worse - Burton, Mahoney, JAC and Kikau so something must be wrong with Ciraldo's coaching or beyond that within the club. If/when this fails and the dogs are in the same spot next year - expect Ciraldo sacking reports being thrown around.
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Cheers for your earlier response to the question mate. Just looking at what you said here & has got me thinking if we recruit the same way for next season do you think we will improve?
 
tigermate said:
Bateman, paps, Steff, klem, api - all playing worse under Benji

Think about it - how many players have left Bellamy, Bennet, robinson bc they were playing “below their potential”?

None that I can think of

How many players go to those coaches and improve? Heaps

Therefore if the senior players are playing poorly it’s a reflection of the coach.

I don’t think benji is a hardened first grade coach.

Just my honest opinion

On the matty Johns show last week - galvin says “Benji lets me play what I see”

5 minutes later matty Johns is reviewing the storm game that week and he said “that’s the thing about Bellamy, even if he brings in a youngster, everyone KNOWS their role”.

It was so awkward when he said that, because I have never heard one tigers player say this year “we know our role”.

There’s no structure, discipline.

How the hell can we drop the ball on the first set after scoring a try 3 times last week? 3 times!

Don’t you think after the first one - the message would be “play one out and get to the kick”.

I just think Benji has too much sheens “play what you see” and too much Bennet “players don’t need coaching they just need to feel good” in him and he’s taking the two most simplest things those coaches say and he’s missing the years and years and years of hard work and respect this coaches have gotten that players respect them in a deep and different way.

Benji has tried to short cut what other coaches have spent decades or more building up.

He’s finished man.
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Look at what happened to brooks when he wasn't able to play what he saw.

You can know your role and still play what you see.

Poor analysis imo.
 
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