Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kelce68]

We came last in NRL, NSW cup, WNRL, Ball and Matt's.

That's failure.

Only one team made the finals. That's extreme failure.

We came last in NRL, NSW cup, WNRL, Ball and Matt's.

That's failure.

Only one team made the finals. That's extreme failure.

Fine.

But that's wasn't your original point, so don't try to drag me into an argument now that you've shifted the goalposts.

We also came 2nd, 8th and 7th in Matts, Ball and Flegg. Those results are not extreme failures.

Why did you leave those out of your assessment?

 

[jadtiger]

Lazarus would have gone close ....webcke also

Imho neither had his ball skills,they were both excellent props though.That is the joy about opinions we all have different ones

 

[happy_tiger]

Imho neither had his ball skills,they were both excellent props though.That is the joy about opinions we all have different ones

I wasn't old enough to see Artie as a younger player .....was he a better back rower than prop ??

 

[WT46]

Madge won’t let go of Kobe.. especially to us..

 

[jadtiger]

I wasn't old enough to see Artie as a younger player .....was he a better back rower than prop ??

In his younger days yes he was,Beetson was the catalyst for making props into the modern style rather than just big blokes lacking ball playing skills.When he first came to Balmain from Qld he was rated as a centre believe it or not

 

[happy_tiger]

In his younger days yes he was,Beetson was the catalyst for making props into the modern style rather than just big blokes lacking ball playing skills.When he first came to Balmain from Qld he was rated as a centre believe it or not

Yeah he played centre for Redcliffe in the mid 60s

 

[boonboon]

Coaches confirmed for 2025

Wests Tigers are pleased to welcome several new coaching staff to the club ahead of the 2025 season.

www.weststigers.com.au

Interesting to see the Harold Matt's coaching group. If Wests Tigers really want to improve their defence then John Muggleton is the best defensive coach in the last 30 years of Rugby Union.

 

[tiger_one]

In his younger days yes he was,Beetson was the catalyst for making props into the modern style rather than just big blokes lacking ball playing skills.When he first came to Balmain from Qld he was rated as a centre believe it or not

I reckon Arty was to prop what Elias was to hooker.
Game changers - a whole different approach to what these positions could do.

 

[user118245]

Interesting to see the Harold Matt's coaching group. If Wests Tigers really want to improve their defence then John Muggleton is the best defensive coach in the last 30 years of Rugby Union.

Has he coached league before? Could be a plan to get him familiar with the game the promote him slowly up until NRL pending results

 

[user118245]

Madge won’t let go of Kobe.. especially to us..

Somethings gotta give at Bronx. Hopefully it’s willison, Kobe or kotoni and they fall into our lap, just a waiting game tbh

 

[boonboon]

Has he coached league before? Could be a plan to get him familiar with the game the promote him slowly up until NRL pending results

He played Origin and Test rugby league for Australia and did coach some league. He is 64 now so mayby he is just a mate of the guy coaching Matt's because if he wanted to coach professionally he would be snapped up tommorrow. They should get him in to provide some guidance at nrl training if they can.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

When thinking offloading you also need to remember we don't have anyone who supports the play. Bula is nowhere near the ruck, ever, too unfit and lazy. Needs a real kick up the ass. Mason is far superior to Bula on that one regard. Even Galvin is superior.
If there's no one to pass to you can't offload...!

Yes great perspective. I had that around the wrong way cheers.

 

[coivtny]

Has he coached league before? Could be a plan to get him familiar with the game the promote him slowly up until NRL pending results

I was really surprised to see his name and see it so far down the coaching lists. My memory was that he was a terrific defensive coach in rugby.

 

[coivtny]

Added to my previous post I checked him out. Since 2015 he's been defensive coach of the Parramatta Two Blues so now I'm not as enthusiastic.

 

[BZN]

Lazarus would have gone close ....webcke also

My suggestion is for Mighty Magpie John Donnelly.

 

[boonboon]

Added to my previous post I checked him out. Since 2015 he's been defensive coach of the Parramatta Two Blues so now I'm not as enthusiastic.

Kids these days

 

[Juice]

I don’t see how Broncos could keep both Willison & Ben Te Kura, both of those guys will be rep players of the future & are worth investing in if a chance arises

 

[Chipofftheoldblock]

Interesting to see the Harold Matt's coaching group. If Wests Tigers really want to improve their defence then John Muggleton is the best defensive coach in the last 30 years of Rugby Union.

I saw that - Muggo is a great coach and I am surprised no one has picked him up over the years since he was back from Ireland and Japan.
He firsts coached under Peter Louis at North Sydney Bears before moving into rugby coaching. Top bloke.

 

[jirskyr]

One thing that I did get out of that article on play the ball speeds was that it confirmed what I have thought for a long while now is that there are so many players that don't touch the ball with their foot when they play the ball.

People were telling me that I was wrong and I was starting to think that I was imagining things, but no, this article basically confirmed what I suspected and that was that players were not playing the ball correctly.

The NRL changed the interpretation a few years ago that you have to "make a genuine attempt" to play the ball with your foot, so lack of foot contact (alone) is no longer an indiscretion. You still can't simply roll it between your legs.

I don't mind, I always thought it a bit pedantic. Same as how you used to have to stop and place the ball on the ground for a tap restart, which is also no longer required.

 

[jirskyr]

I think that the last few years, this year especially, our control of the ruck (and those intangibles above), have contributed HEAVILY to our issues with the pack, rather than statistical output alone. I'd include line speed in D (or lack thereof) as another glaring shortfall; again, hard to quantify.

Man, this season watching several matches per week including Tigers and other lower-ranked teams, then watching only Finals teams this past month and seeing the HUGE difference in line speed across 80 minutes from the best sides.

The GF, I have no doubts, will see both Storm and Penrith race up off their lines in D for as long as the score is close. I could only dream of Tigers being that consistently aggressive.