SO has this been a successful season now???

I'd give us a C+. Obviously, you need to weight the organisation heavily by the results of the top grade.

Top grade: C-. Not a terrible season. Would have made the top 8 in almost any other year with a 50% win rate and a positive for and against. We were heavily favoured as wooden spooners at the beginning of the year so surpassed the experts' expectations.

Balmain: A+. Can't do better than where they are at the moment. If they win this weekend, it will be A++

Under 20s: A+. Same as Balmain.

Wests Magpies: B. Made the finals but couldn't go on.

I haven't kept a close eye on the lower grades, so my views are based solely on where they finished the season. That may be misleading for one reason or another…
 
@philgood said:
Just how was this season successful?

Was it the fact the side missed out on the finals a 4th year in a row?

The fact that it took a **7 game** losing streak to force Sheens to move Morris out of the halves and bring in Gallant to Fullback and Moltzen into half?

The fact that Longmuir got sacked because he wanted to hold the coaching stuff accountable for their performances?

Breaking up a halves pairing of Moltzen/Marshall after the side had won 6 successive games?

The fact that we were over the salary cap and had problems assembing a 25 man squad because of this? Having to loan Fulton to ESL to lessen the cap pressure?

Oohh did i mention missing the finals again?

Yeah what a great season! :unamused:
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Pretty much spoton Philgood, there is a faint light at the end of the tunnel….....
 
2009 the FG side went a hell of a lot better than I and may other expected. Was the year a success or failure ??? In many ways a success, their for and against was the best since 2005, the defense improved out of sight, no real blowouts,the emergence of some real good young players and of course they still played that style of football that people love to see. Of course the negatives to bomb out again and a frustrating loosing streak mid season. Their are plenty of excuses, injuries etc, but good teams make their own luck. To have a team with Galloway, Ellis,Farah,Marshall,lawerence in your ranks and come ninth could be classed as a failure.

Things look good for the near future, maybe Noyces "Man U" quote might start to happen and some glory days are ahead, but its foolish to take anything out of 2009 and think it will transfer automatically to 2010, it never seems to work that way, every year is a new year and some teams will exceed expectations and others fail to deliver. One things for certain every year its getting tougher, with the salary cap kicking in, the bottom teams and the top teams are getting a lot closer.

Anyway I say 2009 was a good year ,that could have been a great year, that I expected to be a bad year
 
Just because there's a better chance that next year will be successful doesn;t mean this year was.
Good luck & well done to the lower grades but as far as i'm concerned this season was not successful.
Thankfully however it wasn;t an abject failure just a failure.
 
On the money softlaw.Im happy for the 20's & for BRET but it does'nt ease the pain in the slightest
This year was a disaster.We should have been in the 8 no excuses.
As for next year,YES it looks promising but i say nothing until we start the season
 
With the success of ALL the lower grade sides, the cleanout and the ''recruitment'' - term used lightly though we havent yet finished here i believe…..I wonder what excuses can be used for next year should we miss the eight again?

Put simply, we MUST make the semis next year or Sheens MUST go.

Lowers have been good....but....thats not what its about.
 
ever since morris moved out of half very successful.
Yes the top 8 wasnt kind, missed by 1 point which we would of made it every other year.
But what can you do, im over the angry stage your still in philgood, now we just have to cringe while we wait for summer to pass.

However, im super excited about the trials, with all these new players and what not its going to be exciting who plays in what position :smiley:!!
 
There were some positives in that Benji stayed injury free (except one game out with the flu), Moltzen found his feet and is starting to show the hype he was surrounded by, Ayshford made a successful start to his NRL career - not the flashiest debut in 2009 but still was very consistent and can only get better, Tuiaki was on FIRE, Ellis proved to be an exceptional buy, we cleared out alot of the deadwood, there's plenty of promise from blokes in the U20s - some making the step up to NRL.

But with so many positives, we still didnt play September footy which is a huge shame.

Except for the 05/06 off season, this one has me most excited for next year.
 
I don't think you can classify it as a successful year.

Plenty of highlights - Ellis, Benji, Moltzen & Ayshford all performed above expectations. The lower grades have also obviously been very successful. There has also been a clean out which should leave us better positioned in the future.

This has to be counterbalanced with not making the finals again, poor team selections at times (especially Morris in the halves), Farah performing below expectations & some key forwards notably Payten & Heighno having poor years.

It is a year of promise and we look real good for the next couple of seaons however you can't take that for granted.
 
in a competiton where 8/16 teams make the finals and usually winning 2-3 games more then you lose will guarentee you into week 2, missing the finals is a failed season and deserves a big fat "F".

weve had way to many F's as a club
 
No, it wasn't successful. Where did the first team make success?

The late shifting of Moltzen into the halves should of been done from Round 1 and when the changes brought results, it was too late to make anything from it.

In saying that, the "cleanout" and the club being proactive in the market should hopefully see some positive change in our run for finals footy next season.
 
OK, I’ll get sprayed for this, but here goes.

Not sure why we even ask this question year after year?
Did we have a successful 2024?
Richo and Benji think so, but many would disagree, and why is that?
If our goal was to collect a third spoon and lose a few of our best players then break out the champagne!
Just had a horrible thought? Is the reason we keep asking this question due to us not knowing?
I suppose in the wash up the only measure of improvement is seen in hindsight. Can we truly know if 24 was successful until we see 25?
 
twentyforty said:
OK, I’ll get sprayed for this, but here goes.

Not sure why we even ask this question year after year?
Did we have a successful 2024?
Richo and Benji think so, but many would disagree, and why is that?
If our goal was to collect a third spoon and lose a few of our best players then break out the champagne!
Just had a horrible thought? Is the reason we keep asking this question due to us not knowing?
I suppose in the wash up the only measure of improvement is seen in hindsight. Can we truly know if 24 was successful until we see 25?
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Did Richo and Benji say season 2024 was a success? Surely thats not true? It was a disaster again.
Its interesting to read back through this thread and see that even though we were all dissappointed, we were pretty much unanimous that season 2010 was going to be a good year. As it turned out, we overachieved and probably should have made the GF that year.
Do we have the same feeling about the upcoming season? No for mine, but I am more interested than I have been for the past god knows how many years....
 
F = Fail
on all fronts
boys club for coaching didn't work at all.
boys club for coaching just been swapped around , 1 in 1 out for 2025
Richo all bark no bite .
loosing players / players wanting out .
coach way out of his depth , very inexperienced, poor performance .
1 good player recruit from 4 purchases
Luai.
Hunt , Skelton , Bird , Turuva = average / Turuva looked good at Penrith .
 
Tucker said:
Did Richo and Benji say season 2024 was a success? Surely thats not true? It was a disaster again.
Its interesting to read back through this thread and see that even though we were all dissappointed, we were pretty much unanimous that season 2010 was going to be a good year. As it turned out, we overachieved and probably should have made the GF that year.
Do we have the same feeling about the upcoming season? No for mine, but I am more interested than I have been for the past god knows how many years....
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If Richo did say Wests Tigers and successful year in the same sentence then he and Benji have a planned approach which is working to some degree, but we don’t know about it.
 
426Tlgerland said:
F = Fail
on all fronts
boys club for coaching didn't work at all.
boys club for coaching just been swapped around , 1 in 1 out for 2025
Richo all bark no bite .
loosing players / players wanting out .
coach way out of his depth , very inexperienced, poor performance .
1 good player recruit from 4 purchases
Luai.
Hunt , Skelton , Bird , Turuva = average / Turuva looked good at Penrith .
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I think Richo and Benji are smart operators with plenty of NRL experience, so our issues may not be in those 2 positions?
 
twentyforty said:
I think Richo and Benji are smart operators with plenty of NRL experience, so our issues may not be in those 2 positions?
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I can’t agree , both were in charge of our 2024 season and it was a failure in the nrl and reserve grade men’s , ladies NRLW , and some juniors as well , ni improvement at all. Benji may be a smart operator on field but so far has shown zero as a coach
 
twentyforty said:
OK, I’ll get sprayed for this, but here goes.

Not sure why we even ask this question year after year?
Did we have a successful 2024?
Richo and Benji think so, but many would disagree, and why is that?
If our goal was to collect a third spoon and lose a few of our best players then break out the champagne!
Just had a horrible thought? Is the reason we keep asking this question due to us not knowing?
I suppose in the wash up the only measure of improvement is seen in hindsight. Can we truly know if 24 was successful until we see 25?
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definitely not a success in any capacity.

there were some positives, sure. Richardson coming to the club and the upward development of multiple players was great, but the wins and losses columns were atrocious again.
 
Kelce68 said:
2024 was an (small) improvement.

But last, or near last for that matter, is never a success.
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A lot of importance is placed on ladder position. Is it possible that we may improve over the next 2 seasons and have 5 spoons?
We have failure in..
man management.
retention. Huge failure.
player agent management.
recruitment. Jury is out until late 25.
Coaching is on the improve, but at a slow rate.
Sacking of the board with no clear direction provided. This can only be seen as another fail until positions are resolved.
If only we had put up a fight in our last game? We were playing for the spoon and so were the Eels and we had 60 points put on us.
 
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