Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

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Why are people so down on Dennis's looks or anyone's looks for that matter.

If your comment was a one-off comment, I would realise you were attempting humour, but there have been so many people putting him down it just aint funny anymore.
With your attitude I can imagine you making disparaging comments about someone who wears a turban next.

The real measure of a person is not how intelligent they are, or how sexy a girl looks or if a bloke is handsome like Adonis, it's what's in a truly decent person's heart and how caring they are about their flock that matters the most.

But I guess if you or anyone else has criticized everything about a person's personality, the only thing left is their looks to have a crack at.
And I would be truly surprised if you knew Dennis well enough to judge him fairly.
The majority of directors in Australia brush their hair and have it near and tidy. Respect for the role should go without saying. I wouldn't get away with dennis hair in my job, and it's far less prominent.

.. and maybe the lack of respect is steming from his lack of respect for others. If he fixed that maybe people wouldn't have such a problem with his hair.
 
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Seriously???

You continue to ignore the context of the gross over-representation of a small group of faceless debenture holders on the HBG Board - where they are able to install a permament voting block of FIVE directors with only two popularly elected Directors representing the members!

The debenture holders are NOT the sole OR majority owners of HBG - but STILL control 71.4% of Board appointments!

The HBG ownership includes the 17 active debenture holders - and 27,000 voting members of the registered club under the Registered Clubs Act 1976...

Meaning that on a per capita basis the current debenture holders represent 0.0006% of the total ownership - but have a 71.4% controlling stake in the Board!

As @BZN likes to repeat - surely any fair-minded, unbiassed individual can see that this archaic governance model where 17 debenture holders (20 when at full capacity) - have exactly 2.5X the representation on the Board compared to the 27,000 financial members with just 2 is prone to abuse and is entirely unrepresentative of the broader ownership!

All Directors are still bound by the HBG constitution and their Directorial fiduciary duties under ASIC regulations plus the Registered Clubs Act - and that is where Liquor & Gaming NSW will focus any investigations.

Given there are currently public allegations that:

1) The Board acted improperly in suspending the two elected Directors on trumped up & petty charges - due to an undisclosed private agenda

2) The Board did not mandatorily report/investigate an inappropriate workplace incident between a continuing Board member & a club staffer at Ashfield (as per Rick Wayde on Youtube)

3) The Board unanimously voted for a governance review into their subsidiary asset WT (following a petition) - but one Director did not avail herself to the review and has been obstructive to implementation of the recommendations (while making public statements to the contrary)

4) The Chair has since sent threatening emails to the new WT CEO to ensure that the interim Board remains in limbo while the HBG Board continue to undermine the independent skills-based selection process that they publically endorsed).

5) The Board failed in its fiduciary duty when it cancelled the recruitment contract for the Independent WT Directors due to internal politics. With a second tender process leading to re-appointment of the same company who won BOTH contracts on merit!

Note: This duplication not only further delayed the implementation of the independent WT Board - but the huge financial cost of two contracts with the recruitment company and a second tender comes from the members funds (NOT the debenture holders)!

6) Dennis Burgess is an agitator for a Magpies revival - and is unfit as a Director

FACT: The new Chair reinstated Dennis Burgess as the WSDRLFC rep on the WT Board against the review recommendations when the debenture rep Directors executed a coup against Andreacchio!!

While I am happy to stress that points 1-6 above are all just "allegations" - Liquor and Gaming NSW have plenty to sink their teeth into.... and the petition will only help to bring it to their attention!

To those sitting on the fence - ask yourself this:

If any of the above allegations that besmirched them (published in SMH and podcast via Youtube) were GENUINELY untruthful & defamatory to the "Gang of 4"- why haven't Denny and Julie et al - OR HBG as a legal entity engaged a legal team to have the articles/podcast taken down under a concerns notice??

Hint: truth & public interest are defence in a defamation suit!

If not for the initial petition (& I was a doubter) = and subsequent independent governance review - the Axis of Mediocrity aka Hagipantelis/Pascoe would still be at Concord and our 2025 squad would still have fricking Nofa on $500K....

Get that into your thick skulls!!
Nailed it. Maybe one more point around the chairman neglecting duties by missing board meetings and unclear public communication around the direction of Holdman Barnes.
 
Why are people so down on Dennis's looks or anyone's looks for that matter.

If your comment was a one-off comment, I would realise you were attempting humour, but there have been so many people putting him down it just aint funny anymore.
With your attitude I can imagine you making disparaging comments about someone who wears a turban next.

The real measure of a person is not how intelligent they are, or how sexy a girl looks or if a bloke is handsome like Adonis, it's what's in a truly decent person's heart and how caring they are about their flock that matters the most.

But I guess if you or anyone else has criticized everything about a person's personality, the only thing left is their looks to have a crack at.
And I would be truly surprised if you knew Dennis well enough to judge him fairly.

You can't trust a man with hair like that. It's delusional and out of date. A 70s throwback, but not in a good way. He looks less like Jeff Beck and more like a cartoon pirate. Jon English the pirate king left under a car windshield in the sun for too long. The worst thing is of all is that on that old WT board, Lee Hagipantelis was NOT the worst dressed individual. Remarkable.

But even if he had a crew-cut, his track record on the old WT board was absolutely abysmal. I can waIk and chew gum at the same time. I'm allowed to dislike his looks AND his track record.

I'm with the lads on the Wests Tigers Podcast. As they so eloquently put it, knowing things in clubland, (as he likely does, playing in crap cover bands for most of the last 30 years), isn't enough, and doesn't entitle you to control (and lets be honest, actively undermine) a modern NRL Club, via any means, let alone a Debenture.
 
It definitely is quite worrying that there is still off field noise regarding the Tigers board but two things give me confidence. One is Richo himself and his way of doing things, the second is his connections to NRL HQ after working for them. I’d be pretty confident that if he feels there is some stuff going on behind the scenes he will have no issue directly or indirectly showing these issues to the NRL; more likely being Peter Vlandys. It’s very hard who to believe in this as it seems like everyone has an agenda. I’d say at some point either Richo or the NRL will go to the CEO of HBG Simon Cook asking for a “please explain” as to why these issues are happening and so publicly. Maybe the NRL offers a ultimatum in being either you completely separate yourselves from the club as a whole entity simply acting as an owner but no connection to the club or just fix the issues. Wishful thinking and maybe a bit too logical for the dimwits at HBG. I guess time will tell.
G'day WestsTigers4VR... sounds to me like you are putting the whole blame on the Magpies for the current kerfuffle i.e..."you completely separate yourselves from the club as a whole entity simply acting as an owner but no connection to the club".

That aint gunna happen my good man.

I feel there is a good chance that some possibly unknown dudes from the Balmain side of our JV purposely caused the current major destabilization kerfuffle within the board and club generally, to unseat Magpie board members then put their own stooges in along with some supposed neutral stooges to enable them to take control of WTs board.
As I said, that aint gunna happen.
And by the way, do you feel anyone on here has pushed the idea that the Magpies are the cause of the current troubles?
 
I’ve just wasted my time flicking through this thread only to be reminded why I take long spells away from this place. Why do posters feel the need to constantly antagonise, berate and manipulate the words of others? We all allegedly support the same team.
Well said BalmainJnr 👍
A very refreshing post and much needed 🙂.
 
I really, really doubt this will ever be an issue but if there’s a Western Suburbs Magpies playing zero games at Leichhardt and another team called the Tigers wearing an orange jersey playing 7 games at Leichhardt, there’d likely be a significant amount of people who’d jump ship. I think you underestimate the danger there.

On the other hand, there is basically zero clamour from this from the former Balmain fan base. Even BDRLC members aren’t pushing this.
I doubt they would call it the Tigers. It's a Kiwi team and they want to make some weird connection to Sydney and expect either Balmain or Christchurch fans to follow that team...yeah nah.
 
we have just over 10k in members I would estimate if the club became wests magpies membership would dive down to 5k
the club is stupid ... don't think they are that stupid

as for a balmain / south island team I don't think that would work either
 
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G'day WestsTigers4VR... sounds to me like you are putting the whole blame on the Magpies for the current kerfuffle i.e..."you completely separate yourselves from the club as a whole entity simply acting as an owner but no connection to the club".

That aint gunna happen my good man.

I feel there is a good chance that some possibly unknown dudes from the Balmain side of our JV purposely caused the current major destabilization kerfuffle within the board and club generally, to unseat Magpie board members then put their own stooges in along with some supposed neutral stooges to enable them to take control of WTs board.
As I said, that aint gunna happen.
And by the way, do you feel anyone on here has pushed the idea that the Magpies are the cause of the current troubles?
Your unconditional love and support for these people is admirable mate. Gosh, this kinda reminds me of the Hachiko story.
These people have been deceiving you to gain a personal advantage.
While you paid for your membership they sent out 9000 free memberships to kids. Then had the temerity to boast about how well the club was advancing under their guidance.
 
we have just over 10k in members I would estimate if the club became wests magpies membership would dive down to 5k
the club is stupid ... don't think they are that stupid
The reason the club has 3 wooden spoons is because they are that stupid

That's the problem with this club

It doesn't matter how low they go they always manage to go lower with the next idea that comes into their heads

They need to be moved on

I don't know what the answer is but surely the NRL stepping in and taking over the running of the club would be better than letting the slimy grubs running now to continue to do do
 
G'day WestsTigers4VR... sounds to me like you are putting the whole blame on the Magpies for the current kerfuffle i.e..."you completely separate yourselves from the club as a whole entity simply acting as an owner but no connection to the club".

That aint gunna happen my good man.

I feel there is a good chance that some possibly unknown dudes from the Balmain side of our JV purposely caused the current major destabilization kerfuffle within the board and club generally, to unseat Magpie board members then put their own stooges in along with some supposed neutral stooges to enable them to take control of WTs board.
As I said, that aint gunna happen.
And by the way, do you feel anyone on here has pushed the idea that the Magpies are the cause of the current troubles?
So you are now saying that the recruitment agency is acting unprofessionally and not recommending the most qualified people?
 
G'day WestsTigers4VR... sounds to me like you are putting the whole blame on the Magpies for the current kerfuffle i.e..."you completely separate yourselves from the club as a whole entity simply acting as an owner but no connection to the club".

That aint gunna happen my good man.

I feel there is a good chance that some possibly unknown dudes from the Balmain side of our JV purposely caused the current major destabilization kerfuffle within the board and club generally, to unseat Magpie board members then put their own stooges in along with some supposed neutral stooges to enable them to take control of WTs board.
As I said, that aint gunna happen.
And by the way, do you feel anyone on here has pushed the idea that the Magpies are the cause of the current troubles?
Here's the thing BNZ. Balmain guys are the magpies, the magpies are balmain. When I look at WT now, I dont see two entities. I see ashfield as the owners of WT. Thats it. Not as a some seperate magpies kerfuffle.

When people talk about out leadership. They are talking wests tigers. HBG are the leadership of the wests tigers. Anyone else is irrelevant.

We really need you to see this perspective. Buf I fear you are too far gone and set in your ways
 
Here's the thing BNZ. Balmain guys are the magpies, the magpies are balmain. When I look at WT now, I dont see two entities. I see ashfield as the owners of WT. Thats it. Not as a some seperate magpies kerfuffle.

When people talk about out leadership. They are talking wests tigers. HBG are the leadership of the wests tigers. Anyone else is irrelevant.

We really need you to see this perspective. Buf I fear you are too far gone and set in your ways
some people are stuck in the past
 
Here's the thing BNZ. Balmain guys are the magpies, the magpies are balmain. When I look at WT now, I dont see two entities. I see ashfield as the owners of WT. Thats it. Not as a some seperate magpies kerfuffle.

When people talk about out leadership. They are talking wests tigers. HBG are the leadership of the wests tigers. Anyone else is irrelevant.

We really need you to see this perspective. Buf I fear you are too far gone and set in your ways
You might wanna update the Balmain Kiwis on that perspective.
Seems they might've missed the memo.
 
You might wanna update the Balmain Kiwis on that perspective.
Seems they might've missed the memo.

There are about 2-4 people who would support that from the Balmain side which is about the same amount of ex magpie people who would support the return of the Magpies,the vast majority of supporters within our club support the WT and want it to stay that way and for the idiots who don't to p off and stop trying to destroy our club.To use the old saying "If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem"
 
FYI I spoke with the agency running the recruitment of independent directors.

Told me off the record it’s a shit show and a stitch up.

So there you go.

I know the guy running it.

The simple fact is Romero and burgess are an issue.

The HBG structure is an issue.

Until it gets resolved it’s never going to be smooth sailing.

As for people like BZN - I’m all for free speech - but maybe would be good to block or cull anyone on this forum who supports a magpies or Balmain revival.

Cheerio
 
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