Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

[Lestronge]

Plausible, implausible you may be right. I'm just going on what our CEO said. He called it ridiculous and petty.
I'm gonna go with him, not with people outside the organisation.
I don't think it caused harm either, never said it did. I actually said last week that all it did was cause a forum argument. It had no effect on the club.

Maybe … it wouldn’t surprise if it did make its way to the club is all I’m saying .
It doesn’t really matter anyway. The goal is achieved . The ends justifies the means

 

[gallagher]

Maybe … it wouldn’t surprise if it did make its way to the club is all I’m saying .
It doesn’t really matter anyway. The goal is achieved . The ends justifies the means

Absolutely, onwards and upwards. Hopefully I never have to read the word debenture again. 😁

 

[Lestronge]

Absolutely, onwards and upwards. Hopefully I never have to read the word debenture again. 😁

Me too mate ! I know I was into HBG , but all I really wanted was yesterday to happen . Now it has I don’t really care what happens with HBG . The monies the WT get from various revenue streams should be enough to run the business separate of HBG .
With them only needing to chip in on huge infrastructure projects or expansion projects like the big push into Campbelltown last year and local engagement .
Hopefully that was a huge up front cost , with the business being able To that moving forward , as I’d hate for that to be deemed an unnecessary cost by someone in a few years time if HBG are fitting most of that bill . It’s too important . This all speculation . But yea I hope the club can sustain itself without too much external tipping in .
And I think it does by and large .

 

[BZN]

Me too mate ! I know I was into HBG , but all I really wanted was yesterday to happen . Now it has I don’t really care what happens with HBG . The monies the WT get from various revenue streams should be enough to run the business separate of HBG .
With them only needing to chip in on huge infrastructure projects or expansion projects like the big push into Campbelltown last year and local engagement .
Hopefully that was a huge up front cost , with the business being able To that moving forward , as I’d hate for that to be deemed an unnecessary cost by someone in a few years time if HBG are fitting most of that bill . It’s too important . This all speculation . But yea I hope the club can sustain itself without too much external tipping in .
And I think it does by and large .

You weren't being critical of HBG were you Lestronge, I don't believe it.

You'll have to explain it to me...is WT now seperate from HBG or will be soon?

You don't really care what happens to HBG now as the monies WT get from various revenue streams should be enough to run the business seperate from HBG, ok.

Then you went on to say something about huge infrastructure cost, ok...but does that mean huge infrastructure costs and expansion projects from the past or in the future?
If you mean in the future, what sort of infrastructure and expansion do you envisage and what are HBG fitting most of the bill for?

 

[Lestronge]

You weren't being critical of HBG were you Lestronge, I don't believe it.

You'll have to explain it to me...is WT now seperate from HBG or will be soon?

You don't really care what happens to HBG now as the monies WT get from various revenue streams should be enough to run the business seperate from HBG, ok.

Then you went on to say something about huge infrastructure cost, ok...but does that mean huge infrastructure costs and expansion projects from the past or in the future?
If you mean in the future, what sort of infrastructure and expansion do you envisage and what are HBG fitting most of the bill for?

Are you being facetious?
There’s one HBG board member on the WT board . 4 independents .stapleton and Montgomery . Complete separation now from HBG. The old model was the whole HBG board was the same as the WT board . There was no difference . As the saying goes “turkeys don’t vote for thanksgiving” .
As for the the infrastructure projects . There’s the upgrade to Campbelltown COE, there’s the offices in Campbelltown, there’s LO .
There’s what those offices mean re. Massively expanding the wests tigers footprint in the south west . That costs money . I’m only assuming as these are new projects that have been signed off in the last year , that more money would have needed to be kicked in external of the revenue share from the nrl , and revenues of wests tigers , based on Richo and Barry talking about the monies HBG have kicked in . As I’m pretty confident the grants form the nrl cover nearly all day to day to operations costs, and salaries.
But I don’t know , I’m connecting dots here .
The good thing is now the day to day operations are signed off on by the WT board and any things that need money external of the club , then obviously Barry will have to take that to HBG .
This is completely different to 2023 and previous where the same people who would approve the money HBG were the same people deciding the WT day to day . There’s no separation .
So I’m sure you were up to no good with your post , but I’ve just outlined why I think this will be good for wests tigers, and why getting people on the board with real corporate governance experience , was essential . I’ve told you 100 times . I only ever focused on HBG because they weren’t implementing the changes for WT . Now that’s happened I’m happy for Julie and the rest to go back and scrap over wests Ashfield .
I only care about the business in concord . Not the one on Ashfield .

 

[twentyforty]

Agree - I was replying to the same comment you replied to by expanding on your comment.
the previous garbage was ignorant.

The Magpies blowhards are trying to convince everyone there was no issue with the board
- when half their board just sacked the other half (in what seems like a long thought out process, with instances from years back)
after the remaining group took the chair from the ousted group members a year or so prior.
And most of these folks involved have served the WT's board at this time...

Yeah right - no issue at all!!

Thanks for explaining that. It makes sense now.
No issue with the board?! What are they smoking?
I used to have a good laugh at the previous admin hiring a group dynamics guru to help them find leadership in the squad, while the boards avoided the spotlight. 😂
Will be very interesting to see how the new WT board performs.

 

[batboy]

Thanks for explaining that. It makes sense now.
No issue with the board?! What are they smoking?
I used to have a good laugh at the previous admin hiring a group dynamics guru to help them find leadership in the squad, while the boards avoided the spotlight. 😂
Will be very interesting to see how the new WT board performs.

For sure....
the Blowhard deflected (As they do)

Usually it's a what about Balmain...

 

[BZN]

The 'bunch of old dudes' did keep the club afloat when it was not far off being booted from the comp after Balmain went belly up: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...s/news-story/c1ad29c94b88eb024686ebc1daf5c98a

I wonder how many people from the Balmain side of our JV read this news article Papacito.
Doesn't seem like any did to me, or if they did, they weren't impressed as no one from that side gave it a thumbs up.
I wonder what this tells us? 🤔

 

[Spartan117]

Seriously guys,

I don't understand how some of you can be bothered with endless repetition.

Reminder
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also Please feel free to use the ignore function

 

[Spartan117]

I wonder how many people from the Balmain side of our JV read this news article Papacito.
Doesn't seem like any did to me, or if they did, they weren't impressed as no one from that side gave it a thumbs up.
I wonder what this tells us? 🤔

I was a Balmain fan since 8yo, never lived in the area. Just liked Wayne Pearce, Benny, Siro, blocker, Mick Neal etc

Balmain is dead to me and my kids

Im a Wests Tigers Fan and I just want to win.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I wonder how many people from the Balmain side of our JV read this news article Papacito.
Doesn't seem like any did to me, or if they did, they weren't impressed as no one from that side gave it a thumbs up.
I wonder what this tells us? 🤔

Unfortunately, I think it's gone past that now.

Given HBG ( formerly the Wests Group) has invested substantial funds approaching 14 million towards our Balmain partners to sustain their involvement, maintain their archives and fund their juniors of which scarcely a 1st grader has evolved from recently, and obviously this funding is ongoing, following the negative publicity towards HBG from Gary Leo's media release year and the recent Kea talk, and now the petition which has been authored by people in order to pressure HBG, perhaps it is time for a paring back of grants given to our partners.

14 million for treachery and delinquency is a very poor ROI. Furthermore, this negative publicity could impact the groups revenue going forward.

Probably not advisable for the group to encourage bad behaviour towards its benevolent provider.

 

[Lestronge]

Unfortunately, I think it's gone past that now.

Given HBG ( formerly the Wests Group) has invested substantial funds approaching 14 million towards our Balmain partners to sustain their involvement, maintain their archives and fund their juniors of which scarcely a 1st grader has evolved from recently, and obviously this funding is ongoing, following the negative publicity towards HBG from Gary Leo's media release year and the recent Kea talk, and now the petition which has been authored by people in order to pressure HBG, perhaps it is time for a paring back of grants given to our partners.

14 million for treachery and delinquency is a very poor ROI. Furthermore, this negative publicity could impact the groups revenue going forward.

Probably not advisable for the group to encourage bad behaviour towards its benevolent provider.

How is any of that relevant to 2025 ? I once lent someone 1000 dollars ten years ago . Now they owe me forever even though I’ve been a massive jerk to them and mistreated them . Like huh ?
You can be appreciative of the past , and accept it’s bad for your future . Like dating someone who was amazing for you 10 years ago , but as time goes on you drift apart .
The things you say mate ….. are just I dunno !

 

[BZN]

The charge that the directors and management of HBG lack qualifications or skills is groundless when these people have been involved in a positive growing entity.....decades of experience can't be ignored.

Penrith and Cronulla recently got into a decent financial mess with people in charge that may meet your matrix but failed in practice.

It appears you are a minority who is unhappy at

Seriously guys,

I don't understand how some of you can be bothered with endless repetition.

Reminder
No personal attacks or Swearing (Disguised or otherwise)

also Please feel free to use the ignore function

Thanks for this reminder to 'everyone' re. personal attacks and swearing.
Does this have anything to do with the couple of posts I 'reported' this morning?
And if so, has any action been taken?

 

[twentyforty]

I wonder how many people from the Balmain side of our JV read this news article Papacito.
Doesn't seem like any did to me, or if they did, they weren't impressed as no one from that side gave it a thumbs up.
I wonder what this tells us? 🤔

I think it’s great that Wests and Balmain were able to reach agreement to save WT from dissolving. However, it marked a moment in time when things went pear shaped following the NRLs withdrawal, of their 2 year involvement to restructure WT.
I don’t understand how anyone could want more of what was dished up during the last decade?

 

[twentyforty]

Unfortunately, I think it's gone past that now.

Given HBG ( formerly the Wests Group) has invested substantial funds approaching 14 million towards our Balmain partners to sustain their involvement, maintain their archives and fund their juniors of which scarcely a 1st grader has evolved from recently, and obviously this funding is ongoing, following the negative publicity towards HBG from Gary Leo's media release year and the recent Kea talk, and now the petition which has been authored by people in order to pressure HBG, perhaps it is time for a paring back of grants given to our partners.

14 million for treachery and delinquency is a very poor ROI. Furthermore, this negative publicity could impact the groups revenue going forward.

Probably not advisable for the group to encourage bad behaviour towards its benevolent provider.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

How is any of that relevant to 2025 ? I once lent someone 1000 dollars ten years ago . Now they owe me forever even though I’ve been a massive jerk to them and mistreated them . Like huh ?
You can be appreciative of the past , and accept it’s bad for your future . Like dating someone who was amazing for you 10 years ago , but as time goes on you drift apart .
The things you say mate ….. are just I dunno !

Very relevant.

There is an ongoing commitment to Balmain. They have a seat on the WT board.......all because of HBG (formerly the Wests Groups) benevolence.

This doesn't have to continue given Balmains recent attempts to dissolve the JV however feeble they were.

It's a business and currently Balmain is a black hole providing nothing but bad publicity.

Partners have legal responsibilities re their behaviours.

A non financial partner providing negative publicity to the group is bad business and this will need to be looked at.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I think it’s great that Wests and Balmain were able to reach agreement to save WT from dissolving. However, it marked a moment in time when things went pear shaped following the NRLs withdrawal, of their 2 year involvement to restructure WT.
I don’t understand how anyone could want more of what was dished up during the last decade?

Mate, this will be about the future not the past.

 

[hammertime]

Unfortunately, I think it's gone past that now.

Given HBG ( formerly the Wests Group) has invested substantial funds approaching 14 million towards our Balmain partners to sustain their involvement, maintain their archives and fund their juniors of which scarcely a 1st grader has evolved from recently, and obviously this funding is ongoing, following the negative publicity towards HBG from Gary Leo's media release year and the recent Kea talk, and now the petition which has been authored by people in order to pressure HBG, perhaps it is time for a paring back of grants given to our partners.

14 million for treachery and delinquency is a very poor ROI. Furthermore, this negative publicity could impact the groups revenue going forward.

Probably not advisable for the group to encourage bad behaviour towards its benevolent provider.

It's starting to sound like North Korea in here.

 

[Lestronge]

Very relevant.

There is an ongoing commitment to Balmain. They have a seat on the WT board.......all because of HBG (formerly the Wests Groups) benevolence.

This doesn't have to continue given Balmains recent attempts to dissolve the JV however feeble they were.

It's a business and currently Balmain is a black hole providing nothing but bad publicity.

Partners have legal responsibilities re their behaviours.

A non financial partner providing negative publicity to the group is bad business and this will need to be looked at.

Who gives a flying you know what about Balmain . Thier seat is tokenistic and you’re being paranoid . FOR THE 1 BILLIONTH TIME…. Wests Tigers is not the same as Balmain . And in actuality , having the board diminish Balmain even further to just 1 guy now is actually good for wests magpies as well . I don’t see your issue . Why cause people on the outside are complaining they’re on the outside ? Who cares ….

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Who gives a flying you know what about Balmain . Thier seat is tokenistic and you’re being paranoid . FOR THE 1 BILLIONTH TIME…. Wests Tigers is not the same as Balmain . And in actuality , having the board diminish Balmain even further to just 1 guy now is actually good for wests magpies as well . I don’t see your issue . Why cause people on the outside are complaining they’re on the outside ? Who cares ….

Bad business for the group. Can't keep sinking funds into a black hole providing little but bad publicity for the group.

No offence