LIVE GAME Round 2 versus Eels

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Long Read: 4 minutes on attacking structures

There has been a bit of chat about how flat our attack is. While I agree that it doesn’t look pretty, I expect it is the foundation of what Benji is trying to build. While we aren’t there yet, I think I can see where he is headed with it

Playing a “Flat 4” is all about short passing options, quick ball movement, direct running and engaging defenders in tight spaces. It is about everyone pushing up to create and exploit opportunities. It works well against a compressed defence, so a quick PTB is a key enabler. You can expect to see teams really try to slow down our PTB speed as we develop this style of attack.

The biggest weakness of this type of attack is that it can be shut down by a rushing defence. While this is a weakness, it also provides attacking opportunities for guys like Luai and Galvin who tend to play what they see. If opportunities present, they can potentially pick the rushing defence apart.

Yesterday we saw, in the last ten minutes of the first half and for a lot of the second, what unstructured attacking players can achieve when working within a framework. Players always pushing up, running holes and trying to make an opportunity from nothing.

I know Sam F and the Baby Giraffe are looking lazy in attack– but I don’t think they are. It is hard to see on the TV, but I am pretty sure that they are running the lines that allow our unstructured players to compete. What I mean is they, and others, are providing the structure that allows a “Flat 4” attack to work.

They may only be getting the ball once or twice but that is based on the selection made by their halves partner. Their job is to run lines at spaces, and always be pushing up on the play. If the space that they are running at is filled because it draws someone across, they have created an opportunity for exploitation elsewhere. If the defence then starts to lay off them, they have also created an opportunity. They will get more ball as they, and the system, mature together.

This type of attack takes time to bed in and even more time to perfect, but can look like poetry in motion when it all comes together and everyone is pushing up. Skelton’s try off the kick is an example of it; not a great one but we are developing. AD’s kick for the Galvin try, while coming from broken play, is an example of what can happen with structure; ie everyone is pushing up on the inside even though they were in no position to support directly.

This is the type of play we see from several teams in the red zone. However, for the most part, in the middle third of the field we are used to seeing players standing deep behind the ball, players in motion, and lots of block plays to try and create opportunity. When executed well it is very effective, but it gives the defence time to slide off and nullify the attack. Most defensive structures are designed around handling this type of attack.

Our attack appears to be what Benji wants to develop as our key point of difference. Anyone else hear “Tigers DNA”?

It is early days, and it looks clunky, as players are adapting to it – plenty of players in the right place but at the wrong time and guys, like Sam F, not getting into the game in attack. Frustrating to watch; but I for one am very keen to see where this goes in a few weeks. This is a much more complex attacking structure to get right and will take time to develop properly. I expect we will see someone youthful overplay his hand again as we develop, but that in itself won’t be a bad thing – we appear to be a learning side.

If we get it right we will trouble plenty of teams. If we don’t, it is going to look like we have no idea what we are doing and we will look impotent in attack. We tried to play this style of footy with Brooks as a half – remember the hospital and no look passes with poor kick choices and sets that just fizzled out? Round peg/square hole.

I think Romey and Galvin are square pegs – this could become exciting!
I think you have seen what I was alluding to after last weeks game. Last week Galvin passed the ball to Sam. Finau who inevitably got smashed. I suggested a double pump and cut out pass. Sam. should be used as a decoy if he attracting all the attention. With Bula chiming in it worked a treat. Sam went missing in the stats but was there to create space for the backline. I noticed Seyfarth do it also on the other side. 2 busy mobile 2RF helping confuse the D.
Good one Benji, you read my post; and well executed Tigers.
 
Another big improvement from last week was PTB speed. We knocked about 0.4 seconds off last week's average and on the other side of the coin held Parramatta to a similar number.

After a horror start wtih errors, from both teams, we ended up with 83% completion rate and an 86% tackle efficiency.

These are all stats that can improve, but given how we started the match to get back to an 83% completion rate shows how well we controlled things from the 20 minute mark.

Despite the smart arse comments from Cronk, given both sides suffered with poor ball control early, the conditions clearly played their part.

We need more improvement to defeat the phins at home, but good hands and a fast start will go a long way to getting there.
 
I think you have seen what I was alluding to after last weeks game. Last week Galvin passed the ball to Sam. Finau who inevitably got smashed. I suggested a double pump and cut out pass. Sam. should be used as a decoy if he attracting all the attention. With Bula chiming in it worked a treat. Sam went missing in the stats but was there to create space for the backline. I noticed Seyfarth do it also on the other side. 2 busy mobile 2RF helping confuse the D.
Good one Benji, you read my post; and well executed Tigers.
You are on the money, Galvin overplayed his hand a bit but we are definitely starting with a Flat 4 approach. I'm looking forward to seeing what it develops into as the season progresses. If we can pull together a few wins on the trot both confidence and execution will continue to improve.
 
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I’d love it if they are cashed up, coming last, and Gal say no thanks I wanna wins games. 🤭
Very strong chance of that think Brown is just the first to head to the exit if more leave they will end up in the rutt the tigers were for years, the only players that will end up there is the dreggs of the competition, it will get worse if the loses pile up so don't worry about our halves going there the place will be on the nose.
 
Amazing stat we have the least points against after 2 rounds that's 16
Next best Storm 18 but they have only played 1 game
We kept opposition scoreless round 1 51 mins round 2 79 mins
Defence is an attitude and we seem to have found some of it
 
Improvement on last week with a win - can't ask for anything more.

Still not a completely well oiled machine, but no team is the complete product in round 2. If we continue building each round we will have a successful year.
 
I went to the game, then watched on replay last night.
Perspective from being there was that the game speed was really slow, but on the rewatch it didn’t seem to be. The heat really was oppressive so I think any criticism around handling errors isn’t fair.
We were really well organised defensively - parra were not as poor as made out. Toa made a huge difference.
So many positive signs out of the game, especially given it was Toa, Bula and Apis first game back. They will only get better from here, as will Luai and Galvin.
 
For a coaches perspective on yesterday's win I encourage you to listen to the Wests Tigers Life podcast with Adel Hage their new post-game analyst.

Very insightful! Well done lads!

 
Very strong chance of that think Brown is just the first to head to the exit if more leave they will end up in the rutt the tigers were for years, the only players that will end up there is the dreggs of the competition, it will get worse if the loses pile up so don't worry about our halves going there the place will be on the nose.
Moses; I wanna win games.

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Really enjoyable game to watch (past about the 25 minute mark). It's a really poor Eels team but you can only play what is in front of you and as soon as they cleaned up the errors you could really see what to expect from "Benji Ball". Highlights for me were
- Our recruits have hit the ground running. All of them were outstanding. So far away from what we are used to where the recruits seem to drop to the level of the club, rather than bring the standards up.
- Api seemed to play with a weight off. Not feeling the need to overplay his hand because of a combination of the recruits and a backup hooker on the bench.
- If that is the Bula we are going to get all year, we will be pushing the 8
- Halves looked 10x better this week. The Luai and Galvin combination has promise and I think Benji has put together a game plan to suit their styles

It's a long season, Parra were an abomination, but the signs are good.
 
Another big improvement from last week was PTB speed. We knocked about 0.4 seconds off last week's average and on the other side of the coin held Parramatta to a similar number.

After a horror start wtih errors, from both teams, we ended up with 83% completion rate and an 86% tackle efficiency.

These are all stats that can improve, but given how we started the match to get back to an 83% completion rate shows how well we controlled things from the 20 minute mark.

Despite the smart arse comments from Cronk, given both sides suffered with poor ball control early, the conditions clearly played their part.

We need more improvement to defeat the phins at home, but good hands and a fast start will go a long way to getting there.
I remember one DH commentator (johns?)
saying how all the Tigers forwards are stuck in the mud, can’t lift their feet, just look at Hunt”

Hunt had only been on for about 3 seconds, and the next minute it was 14 nil.
 
Galvins instinct to be where he needs to be when there is an opportunity is next level. He is constantly competing. He won't always get it right but given where he is at his age he is way beyond any potential hype tag from where I sit.
 
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