Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tiger Stripes]

I imagine if all our juniors were playing in their respective age teams we’d be going much better.

Is that what the other clubs do?-------------How unfair.
Maybe we need to take note and then maybe we develop a happy culture where they want to stay together and play together as a team? Just dreaming!
Maybe we need to poach some successful talent scouts and coaches before we chase mediocre players?

 

[Lestronge]

Is that what the other clubs do?-------------How unfair.
Maybe we need to take note and then maybe we develop a happy culture where they want to stay together and play together as a team? Just dreaming!
Maybe we need to poach some successful talent scouts and coaches before we chase mediocre players?

It’s a legacy of kids from the west and their parents as much as anyone , viewing wests especially, as a stepping stone to something else. The area itself is full of people who have migrated there from other suburbs and have prior allegiances. It’s going to take years .

 

[bptiger 0]

Where has Tom Amone gone ?

Back to England

 

[Buttface]

We jizz all the time about our juniors. Maybe let's realise our juniors are average. We talk them up a little too much

And then Gus puts a million dollar price tag on them after their first good game just to over inflate their ego so it makes us pay just that little bit more.

 

[Tcat]

And then Gus puts a million dollar price tag on them after their first good game just to over inflate their ego so it makes us pay just that little bit more.

Don't even get me started on Gus. How the NRL allows him to be in his positions at the dogs and channel 9 is a joke.

 

[fainty]

Bulldogs won’t sign him. They have a young superstars half who they have enormous raps on in the making, a couple of years away from first grade. If they sign Galvin that will block this kid. They won’t push Burton to the centres and sign him cause they have xerri and chrighton. I think dogs are more chance of getting DCE for a couple of years

 

[tigerbenji]

Not sure that’s ever been a thing, but would be interesting if it ever was for sure lol

Never been a thing or a thought.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

WTs has assembled one of the finest young fullback, halves and hooker combinations in the NRL. All have made their NRL debuts at WTs. That is a record to be proud.

Bula - Galvin - Fainu - Da Silva Plus Koroisau and Luai.

 

[Tom Shines]

I imagine if all our juniors were playing in their respective age teams we’d be going much better.

Well… they must have let the good ones go and keep the ordinary ones then

 

[Tom Shines]

It’s a legacy of kids from the west and their parents as much as anyone , viewing wests especially, as a stepping stone to something else. The area itself is full of people who have migrated there from other suburbs and have prior allegiances. It’s going to take years .

They manage to keep some juniors though and even sign them to Top 30 deals … and a lot of them don’t amount to anything NRL wise … the players they decide to keep is just as big of an issue as the ones they let go

 

[crazycat]

At the moment they are, we need to remember, it's only been a little over 12 months since the club under Richardson's vision has really started to target the Macarthur / Campbelltown region, it'll take about 4 - 5 years for the production line to start churning out good reliable juniors ready to make the step up. I say only over 12 months cause let's be honest prior to Richo arriving the Wests Tigers survived through dumb luck with some of the muppets we had running the joint.

Bravo Richo.

 

[Lestronge]

They manage to keep some juniors though and even sign them to Top 30 deals … and a lot of them don’t amount to anything NRL wise … the players they decide to keep is just as big of an issue as the ones they let go

Definitely mate. There’s plenty of stories of guys getting picked for rep teams that shouldn’t. Coach playing favourites, family, legacy surnames , politics , ethnicity ( what happened with Balmain a couple of years ago) . Also playing style has a big part to play. Sometimes it’s mum and dad can’t afford to get you to training 3-5 nights a week.
It’s where clubs like manly really have a great “in” with certain parents . The kids are picked up and dropped off door to door , there’s no catching buses , trains etc .Also there’s tutors available, and support staff like psychs , career advisors etc.. So the parents can feel secure. And unfortunately they have a reputation of developing kids ( they basically just pluck the best 17 year olds from west Sydney ). So if you’re a struggling parent , to have all the thinking done for you , it’s pretty advantageous .
I hope wests have come into the 21st century with their duty of care , and external support they offer , because manly and the roosters , and the riff as well , have all this type of stuff well covered. Wests didn’t as recently as 5-10 years ago.

 

[Bones]

It’s a legacy of kids from the west and their parents as much as anyone , viewing wests especially, as a stepping stone to something else. The area itself is full of people who have migrated there from other suburbs and have prior allegiances. It’s going to take years .

I don’t disagree, people used to make the same comment about the Penrith district. I grew up playing in the Penrith JL and hardly anyone went for Penrith. Most of the kids now are Panthers fans. Winning certainly helps.

It not always about the kids you have in the area though. Sometimes it’s about getting the best kids to come to you like the Panthers have with Yeo, Martin and Edwards.

 

[Needaname]

What have our juniors got to do with our poor NSW Cup results, todays team had 4 juniors starting and one on the bench, the rest were recruits.
If we had a team of only our own juniors they would not be going any worse.
The point is it is our Recruitment/Talent ID, Coaching and Player Development that is the problem, not our juniors.

Depends what you class as juniors?
Some could say debut club makes them juniors of yours.
As in anything below NRL are recruited into the pathways system is it not?

 

[user118245]

Elliot and Crossland won’t be suspended

 

[Demps]

Elliot Crossland could be suspended

He looks like an Elliot

 

[colinbh]

We could do with one or two centers. Samrani from the Eels looks a goer. Anyone else?

Hunt needs to play longer. His defence in the middle is good. He's also a big body so can stop a lot of post contact stuff. Thoughts?

 

[liltiger]

Definitely mate. There’s plenty of stories of guys getting picked for rep teams that shouldn’t. Coach playing favourites, family, legacy surnames , politics , ethnicity ( what happened with Balmain a couple of years ago) . Also playing style has a big part to play. Sometimes it’s mum and dad can’t afford to get you to training 3-5 nights a week.
It’s where clubs like manly really have a great “in” with certain parents . The kids are picked up and dropped off door to door , there’s no catching buses , trains etc .Also there’s tutors available, and support staff like psychs , career advisors etc.. So the parents can feel secure. And unfortunately they have a reputation of developing kids ( they basically just pluck the best 17 year olds from west Sydney ). So if you’re a struggling parent , to have all the thinking done for you , it’s pretty advantageous .
I hope wests have come into the 21st century with their duty of care , and external support they offer , because manly and the roosters , and the riff as well , have all this type of stuff well covered. Wests didn’t as recently as 5-10 years ago.

It's smart, if I'm running the Tigers, my goal for my junior academy, is basically the same as the European soccer clubs junior academies, get the best of the crop about the top 30 of every age, they live at Campbelltown or Concord where ever the academy is, with full time tutors, physios, coaches, dieticians. They are educated and trained on-site fulltime, home on the weekends. With university or trade pathways provided through a deal between the club and a few universities and tafes in the area for anyone who doesn't make it. All higher education tuition, healthcare, sport and development and competition fees covered by the club through sponsorship initiatives.

 

[Needaname]

We could do with one or two centers. Samrani from the Eels looks a goer. Anyone else?

Hunt needs to play longer. His defence in the middle is good. He's also a big body so can stop a lot of post contact stuff. Thoughts?

I agree. I’d maybe start to consider playing May at lock.
Hunt and Pole to start with May as the third middle. That way Hunt gets 2 stints. Could be anywhere from 10-20mins each and build to longer minutes.
We have the side to do this. May has proven he is a long minutes player, let the others do the grunt work and he supports until about about midway through the first half when the replacements come in.
Now Twal isn’t your ideal impact player but can play the May way when May isn’t on the field.
Shouldn’t we try and keep a consistent threat all game?

Something like the following.

16. Hunt, 15 on replaced with Bird (into 13)
10. Pole, 25-35 on replaced with Twal.
8. May, however long but max 50mins replaced with Sione.

Hunt, May and Pole back on with 15 to go to close the game out.

 

[The Chad]

Elliot Crossland could be suspended