Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Wiz]

Someone mentioned it on here a couple of months back. The elephant in the room was that Galvin was holding up Latu’s development. It’s only been a small sample size, but IMO Latu is at least as good as Galvin’s in all facets of the game, with the exception of endurance and health (so far).

We’ve actually done a Penrith here. Good player goes to market to seek top dollar, very suitable replacement already in house. ✅

 

[SwervinMervin]

It's smart business & the statement is clear. He will be with us until the end of 2026. Gives us the power & options going forward.

Moses will need to stick with rules of no negotiation before November 1. Obviously there will things happening in the background but this early move could get him unstuck.

We have the 3 x Fainus sorted, Richo will play the slow game & watch what falls out of the tree.

I would prioritize resigning Douiehi (1 year), Naden (1 year), Mason (2 years) & we have Makasini coming through. That's our backline sorted.

Main targets needs to be lock & 2nd row. Simples!

Agree. Moses clearly wanted to use us as a bargaining chip before signing his client elsewhere. The club / Richo has done the right thing by coming out early and controlling the narrative. He’s not taking up much salary cap so no need to release him. Nearly two seasons to go with a club who have no motivation to develop you but who can extract every last bit of value from you will not be a fun place to be. If he doesn’t like it, reserve grade, RMC beckons.

 

[The Chad]

hes a moses client you know it'll happen eventually

If it does- you drop him & pick the player that outperforms him.

But.....not BEFORE it happens.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I would be going hard to extend all the Fainu brothers and even talk to Mario Tartak about giving Manase an opportunity to T&T the 2027 season I think it is after he comes out of the clink. He'll only be 28/29 then.

Calm down old sport

 

[CashMoneyD]

Should Penrith have dropped Luai last year?

Completely different situation

 

[2041]

So you can win games. If he's the best 5/8 at the club, which he's shown to be, you pick him

It's much more important that the team wins game then just dropping one bloke because he wants to leave.

Dropping him out of pure pettiness makes the club seem extremely juvenile and unproffesional

Understand people thinking different as they're upset and emotional about the situation.

100% agree with this. The other thing no-one ever thinks of is how much dropping Galvin out of spite would piss off the rest of the squad. Players think differently about these things to fans: they know that people leave and that nine times out of 10 their colleagues are going to take the best offer on the table - whether they're playing with their mates or not. Dropping someone who most of the team seem to get on with and who they all know is talented would be a shocking decision for a squad that is for the first time in years showing some spirit and decent culture.

The interesting thing to me is how we use Fainu. If we'd kept Galvin I sincerely doubt we'd also have been able to keep Fainu, and in different circumstances he'd be wanting to start seeing some game time this season. Now he appears to be our best option in the long term, too. We also don't have a utility spot available as that is presumably TDS's for most of the season. There's actually a legit case that if Galvin's performances continue to be mediocre and Fainu can get and stay fit that he should be given a run of games. I don't envy Benji having to manage that.

 

[The Chad]

Completely different situation

Why?

We are talking about dropping our starting #6 because he's signed elsewhere.

 

[SwervinMervin]

hes a moses client you know it'll happen eventually

He can dog it in reserve grade, where no one will notice except his team mates.

 

[Blooey]

Galvin x Spencer Leniu trade? Thoughts?

 

[hammertime]

The whole system is lame. The guy is contracted to us until the end of NEXT YEAR.

He has flagged this when we are 3 and 3 off the back of a win in April the year prior. Absolute joke. Really hope this does not derail our season.

And how is it he can announce this now?

Why keep him here now? Let him go but we need to get an awesome trade in this instance. This a Luke Doncic like moment. We have to trade well.

It looked like it derailed the last game. The system sucks.

If he signs elsewhere, then maybe we can get some upside and release early. But he's on a cheap contract, I'm not sure if we can get upside beyond that. If we can't, then we should keep him, even for cup. He's on less than Latu who is currently playing there.

 

[Lestronge]

Galvin is going to the eels or manly for sure . Either with Moses’ nephew or or his project team .
Latu is a better half . Galvin is a better athlete . I said it before Galvin will be the generational talent , probably at backrow . Latu will be the better half .
Who cares . We are extremely fortunate that we have the Fainus and they’re invested in the club.
For me , when Latu comes back Galvin goes to Reggie’s . There’s absolutely no reason to develop him any further . Latu is a better defender , he’s a calmer head, and he’s a better ball player .
He needs to pick up his energy around the ball , work on his kicking game ,and definitely needs to fix his issues with injuries but I always remember the fact that Latu , NOT GALVIN was the heir apparent in the halves .And if he was fit to go last year for round 1 , we would have been talking about Latu not Galvin . The real issue with all this , is we lost the Large brothers .
If I was the club I’d honestly refuse to deal with Moses . He’s a blight on the game .

 

[hammertime]

So happy that Richo came out and put the spotlight on him, his parents, and the manager - who are the parties that are dealing in bad faith.

He has Benji and Luai as mentors here, a starting grade spot in a competitive team and a world-class COE. I honestly can't see a better place for his development at any other club.

 

[crazycat]

Should Penrith have dropped Luai last year?

Ofcourse they should of!

Look you got to maintain your standards. If you are gone, you are dropped. Only those staying at the club should be picked each week. Just because you told a player they were not wanted, it's no excuse when they sign elsewhere...

They should have forsaken the 2024 Grand final victory and pushed Luai to reserve grade!
Dinnit they learn anything from Justin Pascoe?
*sic*

 

[liltiger]

do we want to relive the mitchell moses saga, i don't want to see "our" 6 tanking games to get out

We won't, Richo has handled this completely differently, we kept Moses contract on the table for around 12 months while they were in the background bidding other clubs up against our offer. They said he wouldn't re-sign, Richo pulled the deal. Question is, you have a 5 year 5 million dollar deal on the table and can't start negotiating with other clubs till November 1 yet already know your not taking the deal. If the N.R.L don't seriously looking at Isaac Moses now they never will. Only reason they have flat out said they won't take it is because they have an offer elsewhere ready to go. By pulling the offer Richo takes control of the narrative and now Galvin is in the spotlight as looking greedy and or ungrateful before his manager can come out and put his spin on it. Richo knows Latu is still on the background waiting. I'm just hoping he hasn't gotten fed up with the club prioritising Galvin, I doubt he has, he seems like a real level headed humble guy, there's still heaps of time to fix any issues with the club he might have. The club need to tell him and Galvin now Latu is the priority and Galvin can now play the supporting roll. We'll played Richo. Nice having a pro in the driving seat. That million a year will upgrade our keepers and pool in to attract more talent. Also for the next 1.5 years we have a raw but handy back up half on 300k.

 

[HowDugWT]

Galvin is going to the eels or manly for sure . Either with Moses’ nephew or or his project team .
Latu is a better half . Galvin is a better athlete . I said it before Galvin will be the generational talent , probably at backrow . Latu will be the better half .
Who cares . We are extremely fortunate that we have the Fainus and they’re invested in the club.
For me , when Latu comes back Galvin goes to Reggie’s . There’s absolutely no reason to develop him any further . Latu is a better defender , he’s a calmer head, and he’s a better ball player .
He needs to pick up his energy around the ball , work on his kicking game ,and definitely needs to fix his issues with injuries but I always remember the fact that Latu , NOT GALVIN was the heir apparent in the halves .And if he was fit to go last year for round 1 , we would have been talking about Latu not Galvin . The real issue with all this , is we lost the Large brothers .
If I was the club I’d honestly refuse to deal with Moses . He’s a blight on the game .

I don't think he goes to either.
Parra are chasing Lykhan King togia extremely hard to replace Brown.
Manly have Joey Walsh who they have signed until 2028 plus Onitoni Large who can play in the halves.

I actually think Galvin has messed this up. His suitors are dropping quickly and I don't think he will get 1m at any other club.

 

[liltiger]

@kade7 any news or rumours to cheer us up today? Think lots including myself could use it

Don't stress this is a good thing imo. After 1.5 years we all now know where our future and direction lie. No more will he won't he. We know our future now is Luai and Latu. Let's hope tomorrow Benji acts on this and Latu is at 6 and Galvin on the bench or reserves.

 

[hammertime]

Just a thought with the Galvin news. Should we enter the conversation for DCE for 2 years. Maybe offer Galvin early to Manly for Olakau’atu?

Latu continues as understudy with a view of him taking over from DCE who he has a great relationship with.

I like this idea. DCE and Luai? Daymn...... You can see the Brisbane model of 2 gun, experienced halves. But I think DCE already has the dolphins sorted.

The one thing we wouldn't want to jeopardise is Latu.

 

[bptiger 0]

Has Galvin been dogging it on the field throughout that time?

No but that’s not the point , if benji had not given him the chance he would still be playing nsw cup or lower, just saying he has crapes on the club

 

[liltiger]

100% agree with this. The other thing no-one ever thinks of is how much dropping Galvin out of spite would piss off the rest of the squad. Players think differently about these things to fans: they know that people leave and that nine times out of 10 their colleagues are going to take the best offer on the table - whether they're playing with their mates or not. Dropping someone who most of the team seem to get on with and who they all know is talented would be a shocking decision for a squad that is for the first time in years showing some spirit and decent culture.

The interesting thing to me is how we use Fainu. If we'd kept Galvin I sincerely doubt we'd also have been able to keep Fainu, and in different circumstances he'd be wanting to start seeing some game time this season. Now he appears to be our best option in the long term, too. We also don't have a utility spot available as that is presumably TDS's for most of the season. There's actually a legit case that if Galvin's performances continue to be mediocre and Fainu can get and stay fit that he should be given a run of games. I don't envy Benji having to manage that.

It's about the future, Benjis motto is whatever is best for the team. Getting Latu in as soon as he is ready for his development in the long term is what's best for the team. No point in Luai and Galvin working on their combo's only for him to leave in 18 months and then needing to start again with Latu, just bite the bullet now. Latus D is top shelf it'll just be his combo with Luai and timing in game shall need work but it will come with time on the pitch.

 

[The Chad]

I don't think he goes to either.
Parra are chasing Lykhan King togia extremely hard to replace Brown.
Manly have Joey Walsh who they have signed until 2028 plus Onitoni Large who can play in the halves.

I actually think Galvin has messed this up. His suitors are dropping quickly and I don't think he will get 1m at any other club.

I actually think Manly makes sense. Story comes out Brooks can leave. Turbo has 13 seconds of game time in him.

Walsh @ 7
Galvin @ 6
Large @ 1

With Seibs doing whatever Moses tells him to do.

How could that go wrong?