Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

liltiger said:
Luai had already won 4 comps and played in 5 grandfinals with Penrith, he easily repaid the faith showed in him, he told them he wanted to be the lead in a team to see if he could do it, a new challenge. The upstart in our team has played 1 season and 6 games and already thinks he's too good to be playing for us after we put our faith in him. He hasn't repaid us he's run the first chance he got.
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Exactly… not one Panthers fan is shitty with Luai or has a bad opinion of him, Tigers fans and Galvin … big difference
 
TigerNeddyK said:
Exactly… not one Panthers fan is shitty with Luai or has a bad opinion of him, Tigers fans and Galvin … big difference
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He’s gonna get hammered at LO against the sharks ! Not sure about the eels game … maybe ?
Tigers fans are brutal at times ! Especially at LO . Gonna be many a punter hurling abuse at him at LO , he won’t be able to hide like maybe the ambient noise at Comm bank might drown it out .
 
2041 said:
100% agree with this. The other thing no-one ever thinks of is how much dropping Galvin out of spite would piss off the rest of the squad. Players think differently about these things to fans: they know that people leave and that nine times out of 10 their colleagues are going to take the best offer on the table - whether they're playing with their mates or not. Dropping someone who most of the team seem to get on with and who they all know is talented would be a shocking decision for a squad that is for the first time in years showing some spirit and decent culture.

The interesting thing to me is how we use Fainu. If we'd kept Galvin I sincerely doubt we'd also have been able to keep Fainu, and in different circumstances he'd be wanting to start seeing some game time this season. Now he appears to be our best option in the long term, too. We also don't have a utility spot available as that is presumably TDS's for most of the season. There's actually a legit case that if Galvin's performances continue to be mediocre and Fainu can get and stay fit that he should be given a run of games. I don't envy Benji having to manage that.
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If Lachy was a proven FGer sure but he is a rookie and for every good thing he does their is probably two rookie errors. You don't give rookies the keys and 5mill unless you see them in your future.
He has made clear we are not in his so I think all the players would prefer to be lining up with a player that would benefit from the transition to FG and use Lachy when and if their are no better options.
 
Lestronge said:
He’s gonna get hammered at LO against the sharks ! Not sure about the eels game … maybe ?
Tigers fans are brutal at times ! Especially at LO . Gonna be many a punter hurling abuse at him at LO , he won’t be able to hide like maybe the ambient noise at Comm bank might drown it out .
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Pretty crappy fans if so.
 
Telltails said:
If Lachy was a proven FGer sure but he is a rookie and for every good thing he does their is probably two rookie errors. You don't give rookies the keys and 5mill unless you see them in your future.
He has made clear we are not in his so I think all the players would prefer to be lining up with a player that would benefit from the transition to FG and use Lachy when and if their are no better options.
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This is where I don't think the "drop him immediately" view is accurate. Players aren't stupid (well, kinda). If the club offers someone five million bucks then drop him the next week it's pretty obvious that they didn't suddenly decide he's not up to first grade. If he was the best 5/8 at the club last weekend he still will be next weekend.

Think of it from a player's perspective. They're busting a gut to win now, why would they be anything but pissed off if the club - in their eyes - made that less likely by dropping the best option in a position (and one the club clearly also rates as it just offered him a big contract)?

As I say, the complicating factor is Fainu because he offers a similar profile to Galvin - talented but raw, basically - and it might help offset the disquiet in the squad thing that he's got two brothers there. On the other hand, it might split the dressing room down the middle. If Fainu wasn't there I'd 100% be saying dropping Galvin would be a dumb idea.

As it is, it's more complicated: as I say, I don't envy Benji. And just to be clear, I definitely think the optimal outcome from this season is more game time for Fainu and less for Galvin than I thought a week ago. It's just not black and white.
 
liltiger said:
It's about the future, Benjis motto is whatever is best for the team. Getting Latu in as soon as he is ready for his development in the long term is what's best for the team. No point in Luai and Galvin working on their combo's only for him to leave in 18 months and then needing to start again with Latu, just bite the bullet now. Latus D is top shelf it'll just be his combo with Luai and timing in game shall need work but it will come with time on the pitch.
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And I think having luai back at 5/8 might work better for us
 
www.foxsports.com.au

Inside Galvin’s bombshell $5m Tigers call as Benji’s agent feud revealed — Hoops

Inside Galvin’s bombshell $5m Tigers call as Benji’s agent feud revealed — Hoops
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So if according to Hooper, Isaac Moses has an issue with Benji as coach, where does that leave Jahream Bula, Tony Sukkar & Pheonix Godinet long -term?

Bit of a contradiction if true because Godinet just signed a dev deal for 26 with top 30 in 27 with the club.
 
Lestronge said:
He hasn’t been lights out though IMO . He’s does a couple of good things a game and everyone goes oooooo ahhhh ! I’d be seriously looking hard at Latu come May .
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Literally all the good halves pull out three or four highlight plays a game. He’s got a lot to learn but he’s off a good foundation.
 
The Chad said:
Why?

We are talking about dropping our starting #6 because he's signed elsewhere.
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Because if Panthers drop Luai. Theyre most likely not winning the premiership. We are a mid level team this year with or without Galvin. Thats the biggest difference and the other is that he would still be playing NSW cup if he was still with Eels most likely as he was behind Moses, brown and Ethan sanders. And he has just declined a 5 year contract at 1 mill a season which is just a little less than Luai and Cleary who have 4 rings to their name.
 
Telltails said:
If Lachy was a proven FGer sure but he is a rookie and for every good thing he does their is probably two rookie errors. You don't give rookies the keys and 5mill unless you see them in your future.
He has made clear we are not in his so I think all the players would prefer to be lining up with a player that would benefit from the transition to FG and use Lachy when and if their are no better options.
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It’s 💯 not the same . Galvin has got zero runs on the board , where you can afford him the courtesy of “doing what’s best for him “. To outright drop him out of spite is stupid . But Benji has been very patient and turned a blind eye to many of his rookie mistakes , to develop him and build trust and rapport with him .
That all goes away now . It’s who can do the best job consistently for 80 mins . If that’s Galvin , and continues to be . Cool . That’s fine . But I guarantee you as a coach , especially after that game against the knights Benji would have had moments where he would have wished for someone to straighten the attack . And both AD and Fainu do that a lot better than Galvin .its going to be interesting , as the best thing for the club with a loyal Galvin , was to develop Galvin , warts and all . Now none of that is true . So he’s going to have to play out of his skin to keep AD and Fainu out of the JOb IMO.
 
2041 said:
This is where I don't think the "drop him immediately" view is accurate. Players aren't stupid (well, kinda). If the club offers someone five million bucks then drop him the next week it's pretty obvious that they didn't suddenly decide he's not up to first grade. If he was the best 5/8 at the club last weekend he still will be next weekend.

Think of it from a player's perspective. They're busting a gut to win now, why would they be anything but pissed off if the club - in their eyes - made that less likely by dropping the best option in a position (and one the club clearly also rates as it just offered him a big contract)?

As I say, the complicating factor is Fainu because he offers a similar profile to Galvin - talented but raw, basically - and it might help offset the disquiet in the squad thing that he's got two brothers there. On the other hand, it might split the dressing room down the middle. If Fainu wasn't there I'd 100% be saying dropping Galvin would be a dumb idea.

As it is, it's more complicated: as I say, I don't envy Benji. And just to be clear, I definitely think the optimal outcome from this season is more game time for Fainu and less for Galvin than I thought a week ago. It's just not black and white.
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I don't think Benji will drop him this week but their is a big risk that Lachie won't cope with that pressure is on him now to get everything right because the allowances you make for rookies will no longer can no longer be applied.
 
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